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Ocelot II

(115,693 posts)
1. I think this is going to backfire eventually.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

What does the dog have to do when he finally catches the car he's been chasing? Abortion has been one of the biggest causes that gets the wingnuts out to vote. What will happen when they get what they want?

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
2. Repubs will just go after some other freedom or choice
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 01:39 PM
Sep 2021

Look out freedom of the press! Rollback marriage equality.

More and more like communist Russia. Snitch on others and don't say a word about anything else or you'll disappear in the middle of the night.

Ocelot II

(115,693 posts)
8. Maybe, but abortion has been *the* big issue for 40 years.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021

It's what got the Catholics to become allied with the evangelicals, who didn't care that much about abortion until they realized they could use it as a wedge issue. There's no other issue I can think of that's caused as much emotional frenzy for so long. Nothing else has provoked the erection of billboards all over the place, for example.

Celerity

(43,358 posts)
9. If you want to torture yourself, go watch 2 days of Fox, OANN, and NewsMax
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:14 PM
Sep 2021

The chasm is unbridgeable.

They are all full bore impeachment of Biden and the destruction (often in thinly veiled violent threats) of the Dems and their voters as soon as they take back the House and Senate (their projections are 100% that they will take both back) over the following fake but Rethug-enraging issues:

(all of these are mad as ass, batshit crazy)

Afghanistan

election fraud (the Big Lie)

spying on Trump

critical race theory

the border crisis (i.e.. Biden and the Dems are trying to flood the country with illegal Latinos and other non-whites who will destroy the white American way of life, destroy Western civilisation)

general treason (they say over China ties, collapse of American foreign policy, Russian collusion (LOLOL), etc etc etc)

abortion (they want it nationally outlawed by force of the feds into Blue states if necessary)

inflation caused by Biden and the Dems and their insane spending

anti-Israel stances

persecution of good, good-fearing people, and the attempt to destroy Christian churches (whilst advocation for Saria law and mosque-building)

Biden and the Dems are using big tech and social media to censor and destroy their enemies

COVID Big Lies (either it is fake, or overblown, and the vaxxes are methods of control, same for masques, and Soros and Gates, etc etc are all in a cabal to crush the Freedumbs for good TRUE (read white and fundie) American folk)

SOCIALISM!

COMMUNISM!!!

etc etc etc etc etc etc

They are nuclear-powered bullhorn blast level 24-7

The entire concept of objective truth has been eviscerated.

Zero chance the nation can be put back together again, the cleavages are too vast, too deep, and their side is in full downward slant, grindingly, inexorably, like a billion tonne bulldozer, moving towards a point with they will, given the right inflection points and steerage from above, launch into open kinetic conflict against what they KNOW (via decades of scientific manipulation, reflexive control, and programming) to be the enemy, and an enemy that must be destroyed by any means necessary. It is the ultimate 'othering'.






Celerity

(43,358 posts)
12. The only way out is impossible given the composition of the House and Senate, and ultimately,
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 02:27 PM
Sep 2021

the Constitutional Amendment process.

There is no 'great centre coming together' functional model anymore. The Rethugs have, over the last 57 years of so, after the disastrous (for them) 1964 election, methodically gamed out the entirely of the American political system, from the ground up, from local, to country, to state, to federal, in numbers significant enough that they and they alone hold the whip hand of control to any truly decisive, systemic degree, at least with enough grip to REALLY start to run wild, and it likely only will get worse, as they have captured the Federal judiciary.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
13. EPIC response.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 03:08 PM
Sep 2021

And right on target.

We’re not even talking about a two-party system anymore. They’ve created a reality where it can ONLY be one-party control. Over EVERYTHING.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
6. That's what they do.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 01:44 PM
Sep 2021

Set a precedent in one state and pass it on to other states.

I believe that's what they did with Open Carry laws and probably others. New Texass law allows most Texans to open carry handguns in public without going through training or having to get permits. This, too, will probably show up in other Taliban states before long.

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