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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,304 posts)
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:29 PM Sep 2021

Texas Gov. Abbott says Tesla CEO Elon Musk 'likes the social policies' in his state

After a Texas anti-abortion law took effect on Wednesday, Gov. Greg Abbott said Tesla CEO Elon Musk 'likes the social policies' in his state.

Abbott made the statement while responding to a question on CNBC about whether or not he's worried that major employers in Texas will respond negatively to the restrictive law.

Musk tweeted in response that he would "prefer to stay out of politics."

"In general, I believe government should rarely impose its will upon the people, and, when doing so, should aspire to maximize their cumulative happiness," he wrote.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/signing-anti-abortion-law-texas-180416823.html

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Texas Gov. Abbott says Tesla CEO Elon Musk 'likes the social policies' in his state (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
This is proof that Abbot is very, very, stupid..Musk is a business man and..also, Stuart G Sep 2021 #1
Musk is a technical wunderkind but can be a social blunderbuss. Kablooie Sep 2021 #3
Of course you are correct...But suppose this: Maybe you want to buy an electric car...& you Stuart G Sep 2021 #5
That's your right to buy from whoever you wish. Kablooie Sep 2021 #9
Ummm...there may be a delay... lame54 Sep 2021 #11
Yah I know. Kablooie Sep 2021 #18
"Full Self Driving" is a deadly, untruthful misnomer. Teslas do not self-drive. sir pball Sep 2021 #23
. dalton99a Sep 2021 #4
That's one creeeepy picture. callous taoboy Sep 2021 #6
Yuk. Kablooie Sep 2021 #19
SpaceX is based in California. llmart Sep 2021 #22
Musk has lost at least one good potential job applicant because Spacex is in Texas. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #17
Are they closing down the Los Angeles facility ? Kablooie Sep 2021 #20
I don't think so. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #21
So, by 'not impose its will', that would mean 'not deny citizens medical care by decree' Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #2
he started in california and gave ca the stiff, let the door hit him where he sits . AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #7
both of them can kiss my ass blogslug Sep 2021 #8
Lets see if Musk comes out against that un-American Bill rockfordfile Sep 2021 #10
This is Musk's "Michael Jordan moment" - as in, "Republicans buy shoes too!" bullwinkle428 Sep 2021 #12
Musk likes not paying taxes Deminpenn Sep 2021 #13
Precisely. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #24
Elon Musk to the rescue: Tesla plans to sell electricity in Texas dalton99a Sep 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #15
Well, personally I have no use for Musk, and wouldn't be surprised if he endorses Pig Abbott. NNadir Sep 2021 #16
Musk is an unstable genius. hamsterjill Sep 2021 #25

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
1. This is proof that Abbot is very, very, stupid..Musk is a business man and..also,
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:33 PM
Sep 2021
Musk is very stupid too.............

That does not indicate he knows anything about "social policies". Also I have just lost some respect for
Musk...He really doesn't know enough to keep his big mouth shut...

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
3. Musk is a technical wunderkind but can be a social blunderbuss.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:39 PM
Sep 2021

So you're right, he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut but that doesn't reflect on his technical abilities.

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
5. Of course you are correct...But suppose this: Maybe you want to buy an electric car...& you
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:45 PM
Sep 2021

oppose what Musk says..a buffoon.

....Other companies are coming out with "electric cars".

So, you wait for one of the other companies to come out with an electric car .

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
9. That's your right to buy from whoever you wish.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 08:58 PM
Sep 2021

But I have a Tesla and I have to say that I feel it has many advantages over it's competition.
I bought it on the hope that the Full Self Driving version would be available soon. My reflexes aren't as quick as they used to be and I'm hoping a self driving car would be safer than driving myself as I get older. Musk said a couple of days ago that perhaps in 3 weeks the beta version will be released to the public. I've seen many videos of tests of the software and it's pretty astounding.

So disclaimer, I respect Musk on a technical level and I don't really know his views on social issues so that won't be an issue.

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
18. Yah I know.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:21 AM
Sep 2021

The current cars are not self driving and like all cars with radar cruise, they cannot sense an object that isn't moving. (Sounds weird but its the case.)

The new Tesla system that should be released in a few weeks is vision only. They stopped using radar altogether. It's been reworked completely and will definitely sense a stopped vehicle. It sees all parked cars, stopped delivery and trash trucks and can read car turn signals among a zillion other things. It actually builds a full 3d model of everything around the car 20 times a second and is constantly calculating the speed and trajectories of all moving objects to make sure the cars path won't intersect them.

sir pball

(4,762 posts)
23. "Full Self Driving" is a deadly, untruthful misnomer. Teslas do not self-drive.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:44 AM
Sep 2021
"FSD" is not a self driving car. It is a deeply, dangerously misleading name for an SAE Level 2 Driver Support System, not a Level 3/4/5 Automated Driving System. It is functionally identical to the current Autopilot package, or Cadillac's SuperCruise, or Subaru's EyeSight, or the other unnamed driver assistance packages available on virtually every car sold today.

It's designed to help you drive, but with the expectation that you will be fully alert and engaged with the car at all times - hands on the wheel, feet on the pedals, eyes forward. If you aren't capable of driving the car yourself, the car cannot be safely operated - full stop.

Please stop listening to Elon's marketing/blatant lies and edcuate yourself on the reality of autonomous vehicles (hint, you'll never own a self driving car, my 8-year-old niece may see them in her lifetime).

https://jalopnik.com/lots-of-people-seem-to-completely-misunderstand-the-aut-1847541014

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36364986/sae-updates-refines-autonomous-driving-levels-chart/

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
19. Yuk.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:26 AM
Sep 2021

I don't know Musk's political views but in any case he has to rely on a relationship with Texas government since Space X is based there. Wish he had picked somewhere else but to launch space ships you want to be as close to the equator as you can so the choice of locations are probably only Texas or Florida.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Musk has lost at least one good potential job applicant because Spacex is in Texas.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:55 PM
Sep 2021

Me. I have qualifications I know would fit in well. But I would never set foot in Texas. Not while Abattoir is in charge.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. I don't think so.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:21 AM
Sep 2021

So that might be an option - but so many disasters in CA the past few years - I'm too old for that.

rockfordfile

(8,708 posts)
10. Lets see if Musk comes out against that un-American Bill
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 09:02 PM
Sep 2021

He should say something so any buyers knows where he stands. Does he support Americans or the right-wing extremist?

dalton99a

(81,637 posts)
14. Elon Musk to the rescue: Tesla plans to sell electricity in Texas
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:34 PM
Sep 2021
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/tesla-plan-to-sell-electricity-in-texas-would-cut-out-the-middleman/605899/

Tesla plan to sell electricity in Texas would cut out the 'middleman'
Published Sept. 1, 2021
By Jason Plautz

The Public Utility Commission of Texas has until November 15 to decide on Tesla's application to sell electricity in the state's deregulated market.

Tesla's application, originally filed on August 17, seeks to make subsidiary Tesla Energy Ventures a retail electric provider (REP) that could purchase electricity on the wholesale market and sell it to retail consumers. The company has also filed applications to build utility-scale Megapack battery storage facilities in Houston and near its new Gigafactory in Austin.

According to the filing, the new REP would target "existing customers that own Tesla products and market the retail offer to customers through the mobile application and Tesla website."

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

NNadir

(33,575 posts)
16. Well, personally I have no use for Musk, and wouldn't be surprised if he endorses Pig Abbott.
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:52 PM
Sep 2021

He strikes me as a person disinterested in humanity and in human rights.

He does depend on near or actual slave labor to dig cobalt for his batteries. One of the more recent of the many available discussions of the topic: The impact of Covid-19 on child labour in cobalt mines in the DRC.

If he doesn't give a shit about child slave labor, it's hard to imagine that he gives a shit about the human rights of women in the United States.

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