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DU legal experts: Can a suit be brought arguing that the Texas abortion law... (Original Post) brush Sep 2021 OP
I'm wondering if it's more nuanced TrogL Sep 2021 #1
The Texas fetal heartbeat law establishes a liquidated damages award. Frasier Balzov Sep 2021 #6
I think we should wait and see what happens in Texas after this? pwb Sep 2021 #2
There will be plenty of challenges to this law. It'll take years to play out. Hoyt Sep 2021 #3
It is certainly going to be challenged on that basis. Frasier Balzov Sep 2021 #4
That was essentially what failed today. When there is an actual defendant tritsofme Sep 2021 #5
Ahhh...have to wait until then? brush Sep 2021 #7
Seems like ymetca Sep 2021 #8
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #11
as a member of the satanic temple which considers abortion a sacred right rdking647 Sep 2021 #9
A sacred right. Good description. JudyM Sep 2021 #10

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
1. I'm wondering if it's more nuanced
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:56 PM
Sep 2021

My understanding is that citizens cannot directly enforce a felony in court, they can only do a tort.

A tort requires damages, for which none are in evidence.

Instead what's happening is the state is attempting to deputize citizens for which I believe there's a separate process, something along the lines of the militia mentioned in the 2nd Amendment or perhaps a posse.

Is this legal?

Frasier Balzov

(2,640 posts)
6. The Texas fetal heartbeat law establishes a liquidated damages award.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:19 AM
Sep 2021

No proof from the plaintiff is required to show that they have been harmed.

Hence the statutory award is being characterized, and rightly so, as a bounty.

pwb

(11,258 posts)
2. I think we should wait and see what happens in Texas after this?
Thu Sep 2, 2021, 11:56 PM
Sep 2021

Woman may rise up. And men, who won't get as much. States rights are a tough fight. Cannibis is illegal federally yet it is legal in many states? Plus pukes want that challenge, can of worms.

Frasier Balzov

(2,640 posts)
4. It is certainly going to be challenged on that basis.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:14 AM
Sep 2021
Roe kept the first trimester entirely free from interference from the state or anyone else.

This Texas fetal heartbeat law invites interference by everyone as soon as six weeks following conception.

The refusal of the SCOTUS majority to enjoin the Texas law from going into effect signals that Roe is going to be overturned, and that the legality of abortion will be a state-by-state question.

Contraceptives could very well wind up being treated similarly.

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
5. That was essentially what failed today. When there is an actual defendant
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:18 AM
Sep 2021

They will be able to challenge the constitutionality of the law.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
8. Seems like
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:40 AM
Sep 2021

this insane law might incentivize a pregnant women to immediately "turn in" the man who "knocked her up", as attempting to force her to have an abortion. Even just saying, "are you going to keep it?" could be construed as coercion.

Any judge could just bang the gavel and say "pay her $10K Texas". ??

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. +1000
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:47 AM
Sep 2021

This obviously was not thought through very well - typical of republicans.

I predict the whole ordeal is going to get very ugly before this "law" goes down in flames.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
9. as a member of the satanic temple which considers abortion a sacred right
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:42 AM
Sep 2021

the tst has sued texas for violating their religious freedom

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