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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI will blame
Governor Abbott
Every sponsor of SB8
Those who voted in favor of SB8 (your "sincere" religious beliefs belong in your place of worship - not in a woman's womb)
Every person who supports SB8 or any laws like it that oppress women and denies them the right to make their own reproductive choices
Every person who thinks it is no big deal or that the reproductive freedom of women is not important
Every person who cheered the passing of SB8
Every so-called "pro-life" group that plans to throw around money to prop up every future potential lawsuit brought by vigilante bounty hunters
Any and all future vigilante bounty hunters against women
Neil Gorsuch
Brett Kavanaugh
Amy Coney Barrett
Samuel Alito
Clarence Thomas
(and the list goes on)
For any deaths of women and young girls from unsafe abortions.
For every single forced birth and any deaths stemming from those forced births.
For any injuries to women and young girls from unsafe abortions.
For any suicides by women and young girls because they see no other way out of an unwanted pregnancy
For any cases of cervical, uterine, and breast cancer in low-income women because low-income and undocumented women will no longer have an affordable clinic to go to for regular check-ups and screenings once SB8 forces those clinics to close because of intentionally oppressive lawsuits.
For their deaths from cancer, as well.
(and this list goes on too - because those clinics perform many services for the health of women, as well as men, and not just abortions - and because of all the far-reaching consequences that come from denying women the right to full reproductive health care)
usaf-vet
(6,092 posts).... the life-threatening medical emergencies that bouched abortion procedures have caused?
Imagine having to tell a young woman that the damage incurred because of "back-alley abortion" that her ability to have wanted children in the future was lost because the surgery to save her life required a hysterectomy because of the sepsis and other complications.
I have been in a surgical suite when those decisions have been made. Everyone in the room knew that the young woman's life was going to change forever. Horribly sad.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)Never once taking any responsibility. People who would support such a law are the same type of people who blame rape victims for their own rape.
(What was she wearing? Was she drinking? Why was she there?)
It's always the actions of the woman that causes the problems in their sick and twisted minds.
(She had sex, so she caused everything)
Lonestarblue
(9,874 posts)The story of Adam and Eve made Eve the trouble maker for getting them both kicked out of Eden. The patriarchal Old Testament proceeded to make sure that all women were to be subservient to men and must do whatever men told them to do. I dont remember all the stories about the right-wing sect that Amy Barrett belongs too, but one fact I do remember is that women have set tasks theyre to accomplish every day, and male members were to visit the home at different times to make sure she was doing them. Since there were so many males spying on women and telling them what to do, I always wondered if the men shared a wife with other men if she failed to get pregnant with her husband. As I recall, there were several complaints about sexual abuse in the sect.
jaxexpat
(6,699 posts)As if the media were deliberately avoiding the subject. Afraid of the cult culture?
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)I grew up around a lot of the blame women/women as subservient crowd and they're all alike regardless of what religion they practice.
I grew up in Georgia.
Comfortably_Numb
(3,776 posts)to control women by denying them their constitutional right to an abortion. If only we could have seen this coming .
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)augyboston
(193 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:08 PM - Edit history (1)
It will just stop safe abortions!
To Abbott and the rest of the knuckle draggers in Texas: The blood will be on your hands1
What's it all about Abbott?!?
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)samplegirl
(11,415 posts)These people are monsters!
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)Molested children whose young bodies cannot give birth. They do not protect children, they control women. In theory we have Separation of Church and State.
AverageOldGuy
(1,459 posts). . . some blame for all those who sat on their hands instead of voting for Hillary Clinton?
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)justices on the SCOTUS. Voting matters. All the way up and down.
ancianita
(35,812 posts)for the Texas House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_of_Representatives#List_of_members
and the Texas Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Senate#List_of_members
I'd remind those names that Texas women are the state's slim majority, but majority nonetheless, and Texas women, as humans with prior rights of life, shall not be ruled by male minority rule. If "God Bless Texas" actually were true, men would honor their male God and treat women as their God did, as free-willed equals, instead of reproductive vessels with a global network of 'minders.' Any God worshipper would remind them that to be anti-woman is to be anti-Christ.
I'd remind them that Texas women vote.
Do you have evidence for the rest of your lists? It would help women's lawyers in Texas if you could obtain a few.
Otherwise, proclaiming blame is easy. Winning against sexism isn't.
All these men's time could be up in 2022 if women's allies got serious.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)The Justices voted and it's in the news.
The sponsors of the bill are named in the bill (now law)
Governor Abbott is governor of Texas. That's in the news too. He signed SB 8 into law.
Those who would bring lawsuits against clinics and others are accurately labeled bounty hunters since anyone at all can bring a lawsuit for the 10k bounty.
I'm making a safe bet that right wing groups will help finance any lawsuits against clinics/doctors/etc..
It's a given that other people support, outside of the Texas state government, SB8 - since there are so-called "pro-life" groups in Texas.
They would cheer the passing of SB8.
I've heard and read comments from people over the net who don't think reproductive rights are a big deal.
ancianita
(35,812 posts)Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)I was living in Georgia and had four kids. I didn't plan to have more children. The last pregnancy had been difficult and the delivery was dangerous for me and the baby. But I became pregnant. I hoped and prayed I would carry. I have had a number of miscarriages.
However, I did miscarry...I went to the doctor who announced we had to wait for bloodwork to determine hormone levels. The ultrasound showed no heartbeat. I was nearly four months pregnant. The baby was dead clearly. The doctor knew I was at high risk for hemorrhage. He explained he was pro-life and had to 'make sure the baby was 'gone'.
I went to the doctor two days later as I was feeling really badly and the bleeding had increased quite a bit. I told the nurse something was wrong. The doctor refused to see me as the bloodwork was not in. That night I hemorrhaged in my kitchen. My husband had been forced to go out of town... work-related. He was coming home later that night. My oldest was eight at the time and went to the neighbors for help.
She took one look at me and put me in her car blood and all...rushed me to the hospital. After arriving at the hospital, I was placed in a room by myself...with no IVs and no treatment of any kind was administered. The doctor still didn't have the blood work. I knew I was dying. I thought about my kids who would be motherless and wanted my mom desperately. I wished my husband was with me. I lost consciousness. Thank God, my husband had rushed to the hospital as soon as his plane landed. He found me lying in a pool of blood -unconscious but alive.
He screamed bloody hell and fired the doctor. A young resident saved my life. I was in the hospital for three weeks...I had multiple transfusions and needed platelets. I felt so sick. And the doctors from hell placed me on the maternity ward so that was awful too. I was informed that I couldn't have any more children. I was also informed that I needed an aids test every six months and could not give blood. It took me almost a year to fully recover.
This is what awaits women who miscarry or have ectopic pregnancies. I would have died if laws such as the one in Texas had existed back then...Hell Georgia has really bad laws now too and miscarriages are investigated as if a crime has been committed. I can only imagine what misery that brings to women who tend to blame themselves for miscarriage. Women are going to die because Choice is about more than abortion ( a woman should always have this option)...it is also about important and often lifesaving medical care for women.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)There are stories just like yours out there. Where women were treated like criminals and with cruelty, with neglect and hostility - and all because of some twisted idea of "pro-life" and because of idiotic laws that are meant to punish women.
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)tell it. Thanks for your kind words.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)When my older sister was in labor, it was a long and difficult labor. The doctor came out and asked who to save should it come down to that - he directed his question at her husband.
My mother jumped in between the two and said in no uncertain terms that the doctor will save her daughter. She made her position plain and dared either the doctor or her son-in-law to contradict her.
This was in the 70's. They both survived.
But every woman needs a defender like my mother with her.
Like your husband.
niyad
(112,424 posts)all of like mind, rot in their hell. No woman should EVER have to endure such horror and hatred. I am thankful for that young resident, thankful that you are here today.
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)another night but told his boss I am out of here because of the miscarriage. Had he not arrived when he did, I would have bled out. As it was, it was 48 hours before they knew if I would live. It was like being shot to lose so much blood...a nurse told me that most of my blood was replaced and I needed platelets to help with clotting as I was not clotting and continued to bleed into the second day of my hospitalization. I don't remember much and I am grateful for that.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)"Pro life" my ass, he left you to die. Hugs to you, that is so awful.
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)Tanuki
(14,893 posts)The so-called health professionals who put you through this, denying you medical care, damaging your body, and endangering your life, should have faced serious sanctions.
Demsrule86
(68,347 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,056 posts)An ounce of prevention. The first sign that it is too late for the blame game is when you feel like blaming someone.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,056 posts)The only way I could estimate Democratic participation was to look at the 2020 Democratic primaries.
74% of eligible voters were registered to vote in Democratic Primaries, only 12.5% of registered Democrats voted.
I realize that voter participation in the general election should be higher, but still, that's pathetic!
So I can only partially agree with you: SOME people voted in Texas.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,468 posts)Women who continue to make it a habit to vote for Republicans sentence their daughters and granddaughters to this fate.
Women who continue to vote for Republicans tell their daughters and granddaughters that they no longer control their bodies and destinies, Republican Lawmakers do.
Women who continue to vote for Republicans have no right to complain when they see their Civil and Constitutional rights gradually get stripped away. For it is obvious that the women who came before them who marched, bled, were beaten and jailed for the right to vote is wasted every 2 years.
Shame, Shame, Shame. Where is Septa Unella when you need her?
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)the law. Women support the passing of the law.
I don't excuse those women at all.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)subjugation as part of their identity. Sorry, but that is an unfortunate reality in America.
Between the insurrection and the support for Trump despite it, the insane reaction to the pandemic where we have a sure remedy, vaccines and masks. What do they do? They reject it!
Now this, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)They view all women as less.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Why don't they just start passing out pitchforks too.
ananda
(28,779 posts)Heart