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Takket

(21,565 posts)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:51 AM Sep 2021

Why is CNN trying to end the Biden administration?

Their homepage right now: “the worst time for Democrats. The White House is at its lowest moment as the harsh reality of power puts Biden’s leadership under extreme examination”

Yeah. It is being extremely examined. BY YOU. ever since Biden decided to end the Afghan war they have been ripping him to SHREDS.

also on the homepage: “major jobs disappointment. America added only 235000 jobs in august.” Article just says they expected over 700k. But no insight into WHY. it’s because delta is screaming across the country. And who’s fault is that? Not Biden’s. But they won’t tell you that, will they???

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Why is CNN trying to end the Biden administration? (Original Post) Takket Sep 2021 OP
Because CNN made tons off money off Trump's scandals Marius25 Sep 2021 #1
Yep. Like in any play, there had to be rises and ebbs in tension. TheBlackAdder Sep 2021 #53
my assessment of cnn.... spanone Sep 2021 #2
Yeah, it's just ridiculous Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #3
It's not just CNN. Look around. Others are also creating distrust and resentment and division... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #4
My favorite so far today: "Poll shows Americans support withdrawal from Afghanistan ... StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #8
+1 nt brer cat Sep 2021 #11
This is happening on DU today, too. There are numerous threads about how ineffectual the Politicub Sep 2021 #26
That's exactly right. Even outside of DU our supposed "allies" are sabotaging the party... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #38
MSNBC was working on trying to bring down Joe Biden this AM too. Botany Sep 2021 #33
Sorry, I don't know what that means. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #40
PTB the powers that be Botany Sep 2021 #46
Ah! Yes... of course. "Powers that Be". (INHICTB) NurseJackie Sep 2021 #49
You mean Rebl2 Sep 2021 #48
Seem like BBC and PBS Newshour are all that remains for those who get news from TV. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #51
They've said in the past they want to be like Fox News Lars39 Sep 2021 #5
It seems there are trying to attract Republican viewers pandr32 Sep 2021 #45
Probably, but very short-sighted of them. Lars39 Sep 2021 #55
Ratings.... Claire Oh Nette Sep 2021 #57
Typical of CNN. No context or actual perspective. For the past couple weeks they have been JohnSJ Sep 2021 #6
What's wrong with the news? Mysterian Sep 2021 #7
When you hit someone in the pocket book they listen. Biden has patricia92243 Sep 2021 #9
I just had the same take-away from CNN. Owl Sep 2021 #10
Why? winetourdriver01 Sep 2021 #12
And CNN earned its reputation with its war reporting PatSeg Sep 2021 #28
Because peace and prosperity are bad for ratings. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #13
Corporate media . . .. Lovie777 Sep 2021 #14
The War Room Omen78 Sep 2021 #15
Jeff Zucker will do whatever makes him more money. He made Trump a TV celebrity and president dalton99a Sep 2021 #16
Trump was a big media personality before Zucker and The Apprentice. Calista241 Sep 2021 #21
They are doing to Biden.... TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #17
The people in the media learned precisely nothing from what they did to Hillary. dawg Sep 2021 #18
On the contrary, they learned that what they did to Hillary was ultimately good for their revenue. RockRaven Sep 2021 #30
You know, I actually don't think the corporate overlords are the main problem. dawg Sep 2021 #44
I think the problem is with the wnylib Sep 2021 #62
They are pro-"human rights intervention" David__77 Sep 2021 #19
I don't think it quite rises to this level Shermann Sep 2021 #20
They make up the news so they will have something to blather on about. flying_wahini Sep 2021 #22
24hr news craves breaking news Roc2020 Sep 2021 #23
Yet, TFG can be in office with polls in the high 30s, low 40s NCDem47 Sep 2021 #24
Stop tuning in and stop visiting their website. That's the only way to get their attention. zuul Sep 2021 #25
Because they're garbage? And they've always been. Starting with how Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #27
Stephen Collinson from CNN has a major beef with Biden Poiuyt Sep 2021 #29
CNN had its highest ratings during the insurrection period. Jon King Sep 2021 #31
CNN echoes and amplifies the sound of stuck pigs squealing. ancianita Sep 2021 #32
They're setting up the horse race for '22 and beyond. Hugin Sep 2021 #34
CNN is garbage... virgdem Sep 2021 #35
No credibility VEGANGTA Sep 2021 #36
CNN's Chris Cillizza says Dems will lose around 37 seats in 2022. Jon King Sep 2021 #37
Chris should know that polls a year out mean very little. NT. andym Sep 2021 #42
And no one knows how the abortion issue will affect swing areas. Jon King Sep 2021 #54
No one knows how many, but it will likely be enough for the GOP if win the House Jose Garcia Sep 2021 #61
When bad events happen-- and the deaths at the airport during the evacuation andym Sep 2021 #39
All for ratings and $$$ packman Sep 2021 #41
CNN prefers an exit strategy of TheFarseer Sep 2021 #43
In a word? Ratings. DickKessler Sep 2021 #47
Their viewership needs to go down. The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #50
they were my go to station for awhile..but not anymore and we need to let them know it samnsara Sep 2021 #52
I've noticed this over the years. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2021 #56
Sensationalism is what sells tabloid news. MarcA Sep 2021 #58
Biden is bad for their business. redstatebluegirl Sep 2021 #59
STEPHEN COLLINSON ON THE WARPATH budkin Sep 2021 #60
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
1. Because CNN made tons off money off Trump's scandals
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:52 AM
Sep 2021

and the Afghanistan war.

No more war, and far less scandals = less revenue for CNN. CNN is garbage.

TheBlackAdder

(28,193 posts)
53. Yep. Like in any play, there had to be rises and ebbs in tension.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:41 AM
Sep 2021

.

You gotta reel that fish in, let the line loose to think they are getting away only to reel in again.

It's a dance to causes spikes and falls in endorphins to keep the viewer addicted.

FOX News uses a more aggressive technique with those Red ALERT warnings every 15 mins or so.

.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
3. Yeah, it's just ridiculous
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:56 AM
Sep 2021

And they're trying to paint it like Dems will get blamed for Texas. Just ridiculous.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. It's not just CNN. Look around. Others are also creating distrust and resentment and division...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:57 AM
Sep 2021

It's not just CNN. Look around. Others are also creating distrust and resentment and division from within. Others lit the match and fanned the flames.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. My favorite so far today: "Poll shows Americans support withdrawal from Afghanistan ...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:04 AM
Sep 2021

"But oppose the way Biden Administration withdrew."

Yeah, no shish. After being told for a month 24-7 that the withdrawal was a "disaster," no wonder. And, funny thing, all these armchair experts haven't a clue how a withdrawal is supposed to occur or how a "successful" withdrawal would have been carried out.

Sick of polls, which have dummied down news, public affairs and politics into a reality show popularity contest decide by clueless, uniformed know-it-alls.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
26. This is happening on DU today, too. There are numerous threads about how ineffectual the
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:51 AM
Sep 2021

democrats are, and how some should be punished. There is a list I saw earlier that was a fever dream of punishments, that stopped short of going full-on Scarlett Letter.

Meanwhile, abortion has been made de facto illegal in Texas. Pres. Biden could not have been more forceful in his statement about putting using the full force of the executive branch in re: to protecting women. He cares deeply about this issue, and I support him fully.

I understand why people are upset with Manchin and Sinema. I am, too. I can't stand them, really, but I do understand that, without them, there would not be the slimmest of a dem majority in the senate. This majority matters (I know you know this, but I felt like I needed to say it before someone replies saying, "But but Manchin tho...." Saves me a step for a reply to them.).

The Sarandoning is happening right now, and I'm probably not seeing the full extent on DU because I have my Thread Trash list setup to ignore the endless posts that drone on and on about the same thing.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. That's exactly right. Even outside of DU our supposed "allies" are sabotaging the party...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:10 AM
Sep 2021

... every time there's a live microphone shoved in their faces. Whether it's on the evening news, or a twitter feed, there's a certain element that is smearing and trashing our party and our party leadership. The venomous hatred and ugliness that's on display right now is for vanity purposes only. It serves no useful purpose. The revenge-motivated rhetoric that's aimed at two Democrats is intended to kneecap them... and they will, very likely be replaced with Republicans when their terms are complete. Do the math, people. The loss of two Senate Democrats means that we will be stuck with a FOUR VOTE deficit. Mitch McConnell would be in charge (yet again).

Botany

(70,504 posts)
33. MSNBC was working on trying to bring down Joe Biden this AM too.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:03 AM
Sep 2021

Willie Geist on Morning Joe this AM ... before I turned it off. "President Biden's collapsing ratings after
our chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan."

The word has gotten out from the PTB it is time to bring down Biden. This has the smell of a Hillary and
her emails or John Kerry and the swift boats to it.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
46. PTB the powers that be
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:22 AM
Sep 2021

The Biden administration despite being hamstrung by the actions of the prior administration
pulled off the most successful air lift/evacuation in history, worked with the Taliban so they
walked in and protected the Americans in Afghanistan in getting to the airport in Kabul, and he
got us out of that 20 year no win war. Those are very good things unless you listen to cable
news.

I might be wrong but I see Joe and Kamala helping to build a new and more diverse democratic
party that will be very hard to beat in the future and so the PTB want to bring "it" down now.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
51. Seem like BBC and PBS Newshour are all that remains for those who get news from TV.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:28 AM
Sep 2021

Personally, I prefer to read.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
57. Ratings....
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 PM
Sep 2021

Peeling off the Fox viewers who just can't go down the OAN rabbithole.

CNN, CNN headline news, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox, FOx headline news, OAN, News Maxx, and I'm sure I'm missing others--24 hour news channels need to fill space. Reporting good news, agreements, and collaboration and cooperation draws no eyeballs. No conflict? No story. Ever since the News Divisions were tasked with showing a profit.

YMMV

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
6. Typical of CNN. No context or actual perspective. For the past couple weeks they have been
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:59 AM
Sep 2021

working overtime with their anti-Biden hyperbole, conveniently leaving out the 100 million who refuse a vaccine, and fight masking



patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
9. When you hit someone in the pocket book they listen. Biden has
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:06 AM
Sep 2021

hit some big, big, big money by ending the war.

I hope the President does not take a beating for doing the right thing.. Money vs. right thing to do...money always wins.

 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
12. Why?
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:26 AM
Sep 2021

Because cable news had two major cash cows. One, Trump. Two, the endless Afghan war. Biden killed them both.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
28. And CNN earned its reputation with its war reporting
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:58 AM
Sep 2021

back during the first Iraq war. Now they just don't know what kind of news network they want to be, rather bipolar it seems.

Lovie777

(12,260 posts)
14. Corporate media . . ..
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:39 AM
Sep 2021

anywho for those who watch the polls - Texas, Florida and other red states.

Even if the corporate does not cover what red states are doing to their people, which is horrible and un-humane coupled with Texas' abortion and vigilance against women, and how those 5 judges on US SC allowed this, even their numbers are in the negative.

Also, President Biden will be ok, while some corporate media is trying to tear him down, I don't see him on tv threatening them and lying about his poll numbers, instead I see him caring for all Americans and doing everything he can to help them.

That is the conversation.

 

Omen78

(81 posts)
15. The War Room
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:41 AM
Sep 2021

Its detrimental that this stop with all MSM. I listen to a little bit of everything when it comes to politics and in my opinion, which I realize doesn't matter, the 2022 election season is going to be a disaster. The fascists are painting the narrative that 2021 is a major win for Republicons and the polling and MSM are playing right into their dirty hands. Something has to change. Hell, use Trump's strategy of "Fake News!"


Calista241

(5,586 posts)
21. Trump was a big media personality before Zucker and The Apprentice.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:38 AM
Sep 2021

Both of them capitalized on that to make huge sums of money. Trump took all of that and went on to become President.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
18. The people in the media learned precisely nothing from what they did to Hillary.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:11 AM
Sep 2021

They are falling all over themselves trying to establish their journalistic "bona fides" by proving they can be "just as tough" on Biden as they were on Trump. Nevermind the fact that this results in profound double-standards and false equivalencies.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
30. On the contrary, they learned that what they did to Hillary was ultimately good for their revenue.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:00 AM
Sep 2021

The media doesn't give a shit about American citizens' rights or their lives or their safety, as long as they watch so those views/ratings can be turned into cash.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
44. You know, I actually don't think the corporate overlords are the main problem.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:18 AM
Sep 2021

I mean, they are a problem. But I think it's the individual "journalists" who are pushing most of these bad takes in their misguided attempts to prove how very, very serious and unbiased they are.

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
62. I think the problem is with the
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:33 PM
Sep 2021

corporate overlords because I 'm seeing and hearing it elsewhere, too. Stephen Colbert totally trashed Biden as soon as the airlift started, portraying the president as too old to be competent. There was no humor in that dialogue at all. It was a straight on attack. Colbert does not have to establish any bonafides in the TV comedy business. But he does have to keep his corporate bosses happy.

NPR was pushing the anti Biden bias so hard this morning, that I changed the station. I am done with them. They have been doing this since day one of the withdrawal, but this morning, every single program was in full on Biden attack mode. The theme that ran through the programs was 1) Most Americans approve of ending the war in Afghanistan, and 2) The withdrawal was total chaos and Biden is incompetent. One commenter claimed that Biden's speech at the end of the evacuation was "defensive" and said that it "lacked humility and compassion" because he did not apologize for the mess he made of it. These experienced NPR program hosts don't need to establish their bonafides. But they have corporate sponsors to please.

David__77

(23,387 posts)
19. They are pro-"human rights intervention"
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:15 AM
Sep 2021

That is, pro-regime change wars. Biden has, with his actions, blown a big hole in that whole agenda, and for that I’m glad.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
20. I don't think it quite rises to this level
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:26 AM
Sep 2021

I'm one of CNN's biggest critics, but I'm not sure their critical coverage of Biden rises to the level of being a hit piece.

CNN claims to be a nonpartisan news source, and as such they should be mostly focused on critical but fair coverage of the current administration (regardless of their party). It is fine to run feel-good positive stories as well, but too many of those will lead to watered-down, biased coverage.

I used to leave CNN on in the background while doing other things, but they have become very repetitive (also the drug commercials are out of hand now). So it is the same content looped again and again. In conclusion, I suspect these two factors combined could lead to the perception that they are running hit pieces.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
24. Yet, TFG can be in office with polls in the high 30s, low 40s
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:48 AM
Sep 2021

And the MSM will have an army of reporters scouring small town diners and coffee shops to better understand the Trump voter.

Infuriating.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
25. Stop tuning in and stop visiting their website. That's the only way to get their attention.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:50 AM
Sep 2021

They are all about $$$ and good ratings means more $$$.

So as hard as it may be, we have to boycott them when they push this bullshit. It's the only way.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,501 posts)
27. Because they're garbage? And they've always been. Starting with how
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:52 AM
Sep 2021

they "made their bones". Selling us Gulf War I, as if it were an action movie.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
29. Stephen Collinson from CNN has a major beef with Biden
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:00 AM
Sep 2021

He has an anti-Democrat, anti-Biden column just about every day. It's almost like it's personal for him.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
31. CNN had its highest ratings during the insurrection period.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:00 AM
Sep 2021

They long for the days of scandal and democracy teetering on the edge.

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
34. They're setting up the horse race for '22 and beyond.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:04 AM
Sep 2021

Some news would be nice... It's not like half of the planet isn't simultaneously burning or flooding. Then, there IS a global pandemic going on.

virgdem

(2,126 posts)
35. CNN is garbage...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:05 AM
Sep 2021

I haven't watched them in years. My blood pressure has improved. Don't watch, you'll feel much better.

VEGANGTA

(20 posts)
36. No credibility
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:06 AM
Sep 2021

I cant view CNN anymore. They have no credibility and always do the "Both Sides" BS. As an outsider, it looks like Biden has done an amazing job as President.

This is shameful reporting by CNN.

We are rooting for you America. Clearly there are many amazing people there.

DU is a prime example.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
37. CNN's Chris Cillizza says Dems will lose around 37 seats in 2022.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:09 AM
Sep 2021

He says Biden's polls of strongly disapprove at very, very high and if history is a guide, Dems will lose around 37 seats in the midterms.

Seems pretty gleeful about it too.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
54. And no one knows how the abortion issue will affect swing areas.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:43 AM
Sep 2021

Pretty much worthless trying to predict the midterms this far out with so many moving parts.

andym

(5,443 posts)
39. When bad events happen-- and the deaths at the airport during the evacuation
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:11 AM
Sep 2021

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as well as the fall of Afghanistan before the US left would be considered bad events, then the news media are going to go all in-- doesn't matter who the President is.

It's all about narrative, Joe Biden came in portraying himself as a competent alternative to Trump, and recent events have dented his reputation, though really he should be credited for making tough decisions that will in the long-term benefit the country.

However, these bad events are nothing compared to those that afflicted Jimmy Carter-- the Iran hostage crisis went on until after his administration ended, double digit inflation and a recession didn't completely end until Reagan's third year. In this case the Afghanistan crisis is over (unlike Carter's hostage crisis) and Biden's reputation and approval ratings should improve.

Keep in mind that making tough decisions has a price tag. I'm sure President Biden understood that when he decided to proceed with the Afghanistan pullout.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
41. All for ratings and $$$
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:12 AM
Sep 2021

Perhaps they are trying to draw in some Fox viewers now that Fox is on the out with them. Besides , it's not about news anymore, it's about entertainment.

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
43. CNN prefers an exit strategy of
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:13 AM
Sep 2021

Putting in 10000 more troops and massive contracts for advertisers like Ratheon, Boeing and Lockheed Martin. How does that get us out of Afghanistan? Come on, learn to think 4th dimensionally!

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,809 posts)
50. Their viewership needs to go down.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:27 AM
Sep 2021

No tuning in to their channel.
No visits to their site.

I dropped cable entirely. Don’t need their slanted bullshit to find out what’s going on in the world.

I read that Fux Nooze gets paid just for BEING in your cable package even if you never tune in once. If that was truly the case, I’m even happier I cancelled.

Not one fucking red cent to these talking head dipshits undermining Biden when his opposition have abandoned democracy itself.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
56. I've noticed this over the years.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:51 AM
Sep 2021

"Liberal media" my butt. The only time they get off their damn knees is when a Democrat is in office. The last dem that was treated with any respect at all by the media was Johnson, and that was probably because he scared them shitless. They put up with a liar, who spent every minute he spent with them insulting & demeaning them, and they basically said thank you please do that again. A few of them admitted the Afghanistan surrender was Trump's doing, and it was all his plan. But I didn't hear one of them ask even once why Trump didn't start evacuation plans? Or deal with the visa issues our allies were running into? Or any of the other problems that were dumped in Biden's lap due to the fact TFG wouldn't share intelligence with the Biden team, so they basically started blind.

I'm hoping enough people are actually watching and listening to Biden himself, and not filtering it through the media. He's a decent, honest man who has the best interests of the people in mind. And all the press can do is sharpen their knives.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
58. Sensationalism is what sells tabloid news.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 PM
Sep 2021

All headlines and little or no substance. CNN even has the Headline News channel. MSM has reporters hollering and gyrating at fires and floods. Edited soundbites. Even staged events like the days of Hearst. All to help the "liberal" media owners to keep on owning the populace.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
59. Biden is bad for their business.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:04 PM
Sep 2021

His administration isn't a daily dumster fire that forces people to go to the media to see what stupid ass thing he did today.

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