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I would ask Sonia Sotomayor to ask these Texans if an embryo has a heartbeat.
They won't know.
She could ask these guys how many embryos are captive in Texas fertility clinics. They won't know.
Do ALL embryos matter. Not to anti-abortion Texans.
What really matters to them is their power over the human vessels that carry embryos, not embryos.
Ask them if they take legal responsibility for the lives of embryos in Texas fertility clinics. They'll say hell no.
It's not as if DU hasn't gone over this before. It keeps coming up because sexists won't leave women's bodies alone.
-- On the law end of it, even if pro-lifers disagree that women don't give up their constitutional rights the minute they have sex, then they also know a fetus cannot be represented by any laws that protect the living who have prior rights of consent-- constitutional rights of the already born humans.
Even now, the conceived are no more human with free will, consent or legal standing, than is the fertilized egg they eat for breakfast a chicken.
-- Do the millions of human embryos -- with heartbeats -- frozen in Texas fertilization centers have ANY legal rights? Hell, no. They're equated with "babies" and imprisoned in Texas fertility clinics for up to 10 years, some as long as 55 years.
Little frozen heartbeats of babies are sold, discarded, experimented upon.
Hell, they're used in mono-clonal antibody covid vaccines. Do they have standing over that? Do their male donors? Female donors? Hell, no.
All over this country, and in every red state, there are a million of these frozen "embryos" in for-profit fertility clinics -- yes, with little frozen "heartbeats." You don't hear any right winger pro-lifers fighting to free those heartbeats for a life with a mother, do you.
You don't hear any pro-lifers yelling "All unborn heartbeats matter!" while they "save" them from for-profit fertility clinic trash heaps, or protest their being used for pandemic vaccines, or call the ejected and discarded ones murdered when doctors inject sperm into a paying infertile woman. No. This is pure capitalism.
You don't hear in statehouses, of the constitutional or religious prior life rights (life, liberty, etc, etc.) and god-given free wills that women have, do you. No. This is pure male domination. (though some cowards hide behind a few token stockholm syndrome women).
You never hear supporters of anti-abortion bills talk about how ALL frozen embryos in fertility clinics matter, and that caged innocent children with heartbeats at the border matter, do you. No. This is pure inhumanity.
Yet there the fertility clinics are, full of heartbeats, babies, waiting to be saved. What do the men of the Texas statehouse do, instead? Hunt down pregnant women!
Even morally lazy Christians know that saving imprisoned embryos en masse is easier and way more profitable at $10,000 each.
So no. Not just Texas anti-abortionists, but all anti-abortionists lie to America, the Supreme Court and themselves.
Their dramatic distractions across states might benefit other businesses, or draw unwanted attention to the IVF business. Who knows. But if their aim is to save heartbeats, they don't even use the brains God gave them. They do it the hard way.
Finally there is no net gain when they also break other hearts. And lives. That's breaking Jesus' Second Great Commandment.
Here's coincidental and probably unrelated information, but who knows when it comes to corporate agendas...
https://www.ivfauthority.com/best-ivf-clinics-usa/
Embryos are big business in this country.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)destruction of embryos. I worry that their movement will gain steam.
ancianita
(35,954 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)ancianita
(35,954 posts)buying, selling and destruction of embryos.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)ancianita
(35,954 posts)ancianita
(35,954 posts)If anti-choice lawmakers cared as much about protecting life as they did about women having sex, they could promote laws that prevent unwanted pregnancy. Yet the same conservatives who restrict abortion also oppose insurance coverage for contraception and comprehensive sexuality education. They view contraception, like abortion, as a license to have non-procreative sex. Women, GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee assures us, dont need contraception they just need to control their libido.
IVF patients make less-attractive targets because we dont challenge the expectation that women want to be mothers. Abortion, on the other hand, thwarts conservative ideals about a womans proper role as a wife and mother. This may be why, counterintuitively, I have greater freedom to decide what to do with an embryo in a petri dish than a pregnancy in my own body.
This disparity also reveals a great deal about whose bodies our laws restrict. Unlike IVF patients, who are primarily wealthy and white, women who have abortions are disproportionately poor and women of color, groups it has always been popular to condemn and regulate. These women also bear the brunt of abortion restrictions far more than wealthy whites; for example, low-income women and women of color are more likely to use Medicaid for health expenses, and federal law prohibits that program from covering abortion. Mandatory wait periods increase their travel expenses and time away from jobs that often dont give sick or personal days. Its more than just patronizing for states to require women to take mandatory think it over time its downright cruel to low-income women who must take more unpaid time off and, if the clinic isnt close to home, either either find accommodations nearby or make the trip twice. Women must save money to pay for the procedure; the longer it takes to save, the more the pregnancy progresses, the more expensive the procedure becomes and the farther they must travel to find a clinic.
Here's another recent one about the heartbeat biz passing unused heartbeats around, donating, saving them for later, or thawing and disposing of them. Nice.
https://www.verywellfamily.com/extra-embryos-after-ivf-what-are-your-options-1960215
ancianita
(35,954 posts)LeftInTX
(25,155 posts)Also these embryos don't have heartbeats and are kept frozen at 3-5 days....
I had trouble getting pregnant in 1989. I was worried that it was going to have to come down to IVF, but fortunately I conceived and did progesterone injections for several months. We're Catholic and the embryo thing didn't bother me, but it bothered my husband.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)They're also liars.
ancianita
(35,954 posts)Yep, liars under the spell of the Prince Of Lies.
crickets
(25,952 posts)ancianita
(35,954 posts)Employers are also increasingly offering fertility benefits to attract and retain top talent in their industries. Understanding that this talent is often choosing to delay family origination in order to advance careers, employers such as Facebook and Microsoft have turned to Progyny, which submitted its S-1 filing to the SEC on September 27, 2019, and went public on October 25, 2019.
Additionally, traditional health insurers and providers such as Cigna, Humana, and Kaiser Permanente have started to offer some form of fertility benefits on a portion of their plans. Employers are recognizing that, regardless of the decision to cover such services, there is an implicit cost of suboptimal fertility. For example, problems related to infertility can lead to absenteeism at work. Some states are taking the lead on mandating some level of fertility benefits within their own borders.
https://healthcareappraisers.com/birth-of-a-boon-the-rise-of-fertility-clinics/
ancianita
(35,954 posts)The war of embryo control is adjacent to reproductive business of harvesting, marketing, and money.
A clearinghouse site
https://www.remembryo.com/ivfstatistics/