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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:26 AM Sep 2021

Stephen King buries Susan Collins: 'Women in Texas must pay the price for her gullibility'

Remember when Susan Collins said she was convinced that Brett Kavanaugh believed a woman’s right to choose was “settled law?” She was wrong. Women in Texas must pay the price for her gullibility.




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Stephen King buries Susan Collins: 'Women in Texas must pay the price for her gullibility' (Original Post) kpete Sep 2021 OP
She isn't gullible nycbos Sep 2021 #1
You're right. She's not gullible. To say she is gullible jrthin Sep 2021 #2
Yes, she betrayed women! atreides1 Sep 2021 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #8
Only the ones raped, then forced to carry the child to term Lochloosa Sep 2021 #11
+1 jrthin Sep 2021 #21
Yes. This is about rights, not what women choose to do with them. eggplant Sep 2021 #12
They do NOT have the right to force THEIR religious views upon others. pjpossum Sep 2021 #15
They betrayed women even more by subjecting them to their will. Politicub Sep 2021 #16
Oh I am so over trying to be understanding & compassionate about killing women's bodies... Hekate Sep 2021 #18
mom of 6 huh? Kali Sep 2021 #19
You've hit nail on head. There are women who want the right to jrthin Sep 2021 #23
I speak for ALL women who demand ownership jrthin Sep 2021 #22
Those women are free to choose... Claire Oh Nette Sep 2021 #24
A government that can force you to carry to term . . . StatWoman Sep 2021 #25
So others should be free to choose only FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #29
No one is forcing those women not fooled Sep 2021 #35
A feature of autocratic regimes is to tightly control women's fertility... Hekate Sep 2021 #36
Women who believe abortion is wrong are free to not have one. ShazzieB Sep 2021 #38
Yes, all women were betrayed. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #41
+1. Collins was probably chosen MontanaMama Sep 2021 #9
Believe you are correct, that's just how politics work in the big league KS Toronado Sep 2021 #34
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Sep 2021 #6
Exactly. sop Sep 2021 #7
Bingo qazplm135 Sep 2021 #10
That was my reaction jcgoldie Sep 2021 #17
Exactly. She's a hard-right nutcase who uses mumbly language. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #40
She is not gullible in the least. She is bought and paid for. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #3
Absolutely! Rebl2 Sep 2021 #4
I don't believe Susan Collins was "gullible" on the matter... just fucking dishonest Goodheart Sep 2021 #13
Maine wants her though BlueLucy Sep 2021 #14
As usual, Steven speaks truth Bayard Sep 2021 #20
She has perfected her 'Oh, how could I have known' and 'But I sure believed him/her...silly me' Scalded Nun Sep 2021 #26
The party of Traildogbob Sep 2021 #27
She's a sociopath, like many Republican politicians. Not gullible. diane in sf Sep 2021 #28
Collins just wanted the attention. Buckeyeblue Sep 2021 #30
That's my opinion too. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #42
She's a typical lying sack of shit. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #31
And according to Collins, Trump learned his lesson hot2na Sep 2021 #32
She's concerned. She's oh so concerned. nt Baltimike Sep 2021 #33
She's deceitful not gullible. Knows full-well what she is doing. Contemptible con artist. nt Cognitive_Resonance Sep 2021 #37
KR Rt TY Cha Sep 2021 #39
Susan Collins sucks tRump's leaky ass Blue Owl Sep 2021 #43
JAYSUS Skittles Sep 2021 #44
At this point, if you're honestly and earnestly believing what Susan Collins says JonAndKatePlusABird Sep 2021 #45

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
2. You're right. She's not gullible. To say she is gullible
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:35 AM
Sep 2021

shifts the focus from her being a liar. I believe she was lying when she said what she said. She knew Kavanaugh was part of the plan to kill Roe vs Wade. She betrayed women.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
5. Yes, she betrayed women!
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:53 AM
Sep 2021

But she isn't the only woman who has...all of the women in the Texas legislature who voted in favor of this law, also betrayed women!!!

And their places in the 9th Circle, if one believes in such things, is reserved...

The Ninth Circle of Hell is divided into 4 Rounds according to the seriousness of the sin. Though all residents are frozen in an icy lake. Those who committed more severe sin are deeper within the ice. Each of the 4 Rounds is named after an individual who personifies the sin. Thus Round 1 is named Caina after Cain who killed his brother Abel, Round 2 is named Antenora after Anthenor of Troy who was Priam’s counselor during the Trojan War, Round 3 is named Ptolomaea after Ptolemy (son of Abubus), while Round 4 is named Judecca after Judas Iscariot, the apostle who betrayed Jesus with a kiss.

Response to atreides1 (Reply #5)

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
11. Only the ones raped, then forced to carry the child to term
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:17 PM
Sep 2021

Then having to share custody of the child with their rapist.

They will feel betrayed twice.

It should be every women's CHOICE. That's the point.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
16. They betrayed women even more by subjecting them to their will.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:35 PM
Sep 2021

Just because they’re women does not excuse their support of state control of wombs and citizen policing of women. It does make them more insidious, though.

There are a lot of women who are fine with the patriarchy and stripping themselves of a hard-won civil right. They remind me of gay people who vote against gay rights. They can all go to hell for all I care.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
18. Oh I am so over trying to be understanding & compassionate about killing women's bodies...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:36 PM
Sep 2021

…killing women’s hopes… laying the burden most brutally on the most vulnerable.

You got me on the wrong day.

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
19. mom of 6 huh?
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:43 PM
Sep 2021
obviously you got to choose, let others do the same. you didn't want to use birth control or have an abortion. yay!


MoMof6 (16 posts)
8. Do not presume to speak for all women

What about those women that believe abortion is wrong? Were they 'betrayed' as well?

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
23. You've hit nail on head. There are women who want the right to
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:53 PM
Sep 2021

make medical choices about their bodies, yet want to deny other women the choice to manage their medical rights for their bodies.

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
22. I speak for ALL women who demand ownership
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:50 PM
Sep 2021

and the right! to make decisions about their bodies. And certainly, those women who do not believe in the right to make medical choices about their bodies can feel free not to have an abortion.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
24. Those women are free to choose...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

Those women who believe terminating a pregnancy is wrong are free to choose to carry to term any pregnancy that falls within their own uteruii.

Just like other women, who are capable of deciding for themselves whether and when to become mothers, can make their own medical decisions.

What Roe v. Wade prevented was dead women.

WIre hangers are back, in a big way.

StatWoman

(518 posts)
25. A government that can force you to carry to term . . .
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:25 PM
Sep 2021

. . . can force you to get an abortion. The issue is, whose decision is it?

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
35. No one is forcing those women
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:59 PM
Sep 2021

to have an abortion.

You are, however, forcing other women to carry the fetuses of rapists, men committing incest, etc.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
36. A feature of autocratic regimes is to tightly control women's fertility...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Fri Sep 3, 2021, 05:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Both the Nazis & Soviets made abortion easy, but they made contraceptives hard to obtain, which meant that at any time the regime wanted more citizens all they had to do was bar access to abortion.

The Ceausescu regime in Romania outlawed both contraception and abortion, and regularly checked on women to see why they were not pregnant. The horrors of the “orphanages” ensued, populated with psychologically traumatized children whose parents couldn’t afford them and didn’t want them, so dumped them as soon as they were born.

The Chinese government decided the solution to overpopulation was the “one child” policy, backed up with draconian forced abortions. China now has millions of men who will never get a chance to marry, as families favored sons and selected for them by ultrasound if they could.

Women are moral agents, with functioning brains. Keep the Goddamned state out of it, and likewise religion, and we ourselves will choose appropriately.

* Just so you know, many religions — indeed many branches of Christianity itself, are fine with abortion being legal. So don’t tell me “religious people” are all against legalized abortions, because that is not true. Women who don’t want an abortion are 100% free to not have one, regardless of their religious beliefs or lack thereof.





ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
38. Women who believe abortion is wrong are free to not have one.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:14 PM
Sep 2021

They are free to make that choice whether abortion is legal or not. That is their right and their personal business.

If abortion is legal, then ALL women are free to make the choice they want for themselves without government interference. If it's not legal, then only those who oppose abortion are free to make the choice they want. See how that works?

The government is not making people have abortions they don't want, and that is as it should be. People have the right to make their own decisions about such personal matters, based on their own beliefs, not those of the government or people who happen to disapprove of certain choices.

NH Ethylene

(30,809 posts)
41. Yes, all women were betrayed.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 05:42 PM
Sep 2021

Control over your own body is a human right. What you do with it is your choice.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
9. +1. Collins was probably chosen
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 PM
Sep 2021

by McConnell to pretend to believe Kavanagh. It was all orchestrated.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
34. Believe you are correct, that's just how politics work in the big league
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:29 PM
Sep 2021

And Collins is good at being "concerned" when she isn't.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
26. She has perfected her 'Oh, how could I have known' and 'But I sure believed him/her...silly me'
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:31 PM
Sep 2021

She is a deceitful, traitorous liar who wants to burn down this country just like her more outrageous colleagues.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
27. The party of
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:33 PM
Sep 2021

Grab em by the pussy, fuck em if YOU want to, make em birth your child, never pay support. Yet there are tons of women on board for that philosophy. Texas just got a huge hand full of pussy. Those white women must really hate black folk.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
30. Collins just wanted the attention.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

She could give two fucks who the nominee was. She loved that they had to make a special trip to ask for her vote. That's all.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
31. She's a typical lying sack of shit.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

It's not just the women of Texass, this fascist religous shit will spread everywhere. That's the goal, they don't really care about abortions, just control and power.

hot2na

(357 posts)
32. And according to Collins, Trump learned his lesson
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:09 PM
Sep 2021

Collins is the biggest phony moderate. Her job is to pretend to be a moderate so she can swindle the votes of low information voters who claim to be independent but in reality have been enabling the reich wing for years now.

45. At this point, if you're honestly and earnestly believing what Susan Collins says
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:55 PM
Sep 2021

you're the gullible one. This ain't rocket science.

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