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BY JASON EASLEY at PoliticusUSA
Hospitals And Ambulances Are Overflowing In Oklahoma With People ODing On Horse De-Wormer
https://www.politicususa.com/2021/09/03/oklahoma-horse-pill-overdoses.html
"SNIP.....
Rural Oklahoma has been hit with a new drug epidemic. Its not opioids or heroin. People are overdosing on ivermectin.
Hospitals In Oklahoma Are Flooded With Horse De-Wormer Overdoses
KFOR reported:
A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.
Theres a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff because it can be dangerous, said Dr. Jason McElyea
Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse because they believed false claims the horse de-wormer could fight COVID-19.
.....SNIP"
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)FarPoint
(12,352 posts)the increase doses they take...depletes the sodium levels in the body....hyponatremia...not sure what else it does...
Wicked Blue
(5,832 posts)that it causes intense diarrhea
FarPoint
(12,352 posts)Diarrhea....loss of potassium as well...cause cardiac issues!
Grins
(7,217 posts)Lots of pants-shitting! Often wrong time, worse place. Must suck to be them. (Stifles rude snickering )
Wicked Blue
(5,832 posts)full of shit
JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)Hekate
(90,674 posts)Really stupid and really dangerous.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)It was a drug interaction.
Brought her sodium level to 105mg/liter.
Anything under 135 is concerning. Under 125 is severe.
The LD50 is 98. So, she was 7ppm from the LD50, meaning she probably had a 30% chance of dying!
Worst part: it was ME that looked up this drug on the internet and discovered the side effect. Her GP & prescribing doctor both were confused.
They were hitting with IV after IV of saline, and level wouldn't rise.
They pulled that med off her list and in two day she was at 138. Man, was I mad!
FarPoint
(12,352 posts)outlines the Ivermectin issues....with teaching logic of what does work...
Throck
(2,520 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)I would say I don't care, but if this means there will be less MAGATS in 2022, or will engage in another insurrection, then I think this is good news. In fact, they should just stay home and die, because they would not be in their predicament if they had listened to the doctors.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,467 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,794 posts)could stand a good culling. Never thought a horse dewormer would be the solution. 🥲
budkin
(6,703 posts)HE SAID!
joetheman
(1,450 posts)patphil
(6,172 posts)Hugin
(33,135 posts)Being only the horse's behind.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Paste away.
Stupid people.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Ivermectin is extremely safe for almost everyone. To prevent poisonings we should let doctors prescribe it for covid. It probably does little good but not legalizing it is clearly causing poisonings.
Ocelot II
(115,683 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)Ivermectin is not proven effective but we dont have any large human trials on it. So we dont know if it doesnt work. The largest human trial, 1500 patients, half got ivermectin, showed a small but statistically insignificant benefit. It might do some good, it might not.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,648 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)separate reporting yet. Couldn't help noticing that no #s are given for this supposed crowd of ODers, not even estimates. Which is a shame, because the sooner the crazies dump this one and move on to the lime Jello cure the better. Also didn't find any report involving the alarming vision loss.
I did find a confirmed report of "at least two" hospitalized for ivermectin overdose in Mississippi, and a report of one in Australia. None sounded overly serious, not enough to scare even local crazies probably.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)"The situation is so dire that people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with hospitals in Sallisaw, told KFOR, an NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City.
McElyea spoke to the channel this week about the dangers of overdosing on the version of ivermectin meant for use in livestock. He said the hospitals he worked at became overwhelmed after people started taking ivermectin, believing unverified claims that it's an effective COVID-19 treatment.
"The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated," McElyea said."
https://news.yahoo.com/oklahomas-ers-backed-people-overdosing-053822589.html
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)there's a bad batch being sold around there, or a local influencer is recommending poison doses.
ShazzieB
(16,389 posts)Whether that's because somebody is encouraging people to take huge doses or it's just a matter of stupid people making bad guesses, stories are popping up in lots of different places. One article I looked at said medications for horses are often very highly concentrated. That would certainly make it easy to miscalculate.
Here are some stories I found just now:
Kansas: https://www.wibw.com/2021/09/01/calls-poison-control-er-visits-increase-kansans-self-treat-covid-with-ivermectin/
Minnesota: https://www.fox9.com/news/ivermectin-poison-control-calls-increase-in-minnesota-in-august-amid-covid-19-misinformation
Utah: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/08/30/utah-poison-control/
Florida: https://www.winknews.com/2021/08/31/demand-skyrockets-for-ivermectin-in-florida-poison-control-spikes/
Kentucky: https://www.wkyt.com/2021/09/01/calls-ky-poison-control-center-over-ivermectin-have-increased/
Oregon: https://www.malheurenterprise.com/posts/8841/around-oregon-intentional-misuse-of-ivermectin-rises-in-oregon
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Yet another day has passed, and all reports quote that one doctor, Jason McElyea, who claimed floods of ODs from taking doses meant for horses were overwhelming rural hospitals. ERs were "clogged" with ODs.
So which hospitals and how many OD's? That basic information strangely wasn't given and still isn't. He said ODers had vision loss -- try googling that to (not) find followup on this scary news. OK's biggest newspaper has a bunch of articles about or mentioning ivermectin, but nothing on this.
Below is the followup on ivermectin from Oklahoma City's KFOR-TV, which broke the doctor's sensational account. It doesn't even discuss its current headline, and the caption on the picture mentions increase in poison control calls in Nevada.
As COVID-19 cases continue to climb across the country, some Americans are searching for alternative options to protect themselves from the virus. For months, the Food and Drug Administration has warned Americans against using ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19.
Ivermectin and Use in Humans
Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms.
Ivermectin is often used to treat or prevent parasites in animals, like horses.
https://kfor.com/news/local/google-oklahomans-among-most-interested-in-ivermectin/
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)3 miles out from my suburban location are mostly farms. The county I live in a mostly farms. Mostly Trumpers and "grab yer bootstraps" types. All 3 major Cincinnati hospitals have built facilities further north because the population is moving out. All of them are reporting a steady string of patients that tried these hair brained ideas - not just horse pills.
The OK News Link
https://kfor.com/news/local/patients-overdosing-on-ivermectin-backing-up-rural-oklahoma-hospitals-ambulances/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Someone who needs medical attention for, say, a heart problem or cancer or whatever has to wait while these selfish, ignorant knuckleheads fill up the available capacity.
Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)Noodleboy13
(422 posts)Where else would people purposefully poison themselves out of sheer contrarianism. I feel like Colin Robertson at an all-you-can eat schadenfreude buffet.
peace,
Noodleboy
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts).
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)There was another report that stated 11 cases since May.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-oklahoma-hospital-ambulances-patents-coronavirus-ivermectin-20210902-yqrlniulrbfcdhajchdzq2na34-story.html
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... and the dosage for Ivermectin is set for that size/weight, I'd suppose that an average human (200 lbs.?) should be taking 1/6th the amount that is recommended for a horse.
Does that make any sense?
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DFW
(54,370 posts)Do NOT permit them to then clog health care facilities because they don't like how it's proceeding. Hospitals should be for people who have afflictions and seek a cure, not for healthy people thinking up ways to get sick.
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Treats 1400 pounds
Smh
These idiots cannot understand math
I worm my herd of 3
Pony
450 pounds
Haflinger
1200 pounds
Quarter/thoroughbred mare
1000 pounds
And I dont use the full syringe of wormer on any of them
roamer65
(36,745 posts)They dont deserve treatment.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)If they've taken too much, they should get further advice from Organ.
He is obviously an expert in these matters.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)Stack these horse whisperers in a storage facility somewhere, and save the emergency rooms, staff personnel and ventilators for covid-inflicted kids who can't be vaccinated under current guidelines. These assholes need to start PAYING for their stupid choices.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I do not want and ER that turns away a shark bite victim because ... well you knew they are in the water... why didn't you wear a shark suit? or well you are the one who got drunk and stuck that thing that does not belong in that orifice into that orifice so go home and deal with it yourself. Tough cheese if you get all cut up inside and die. Or, well, you did not eat perfect all your life and exercise exactly perfect all your life so go home with your heart attack and deal with it yourself. We told you eating out can kill you and you did anyway. Go home and get what you deserve.
NO. Just NO.
I agree that the toll being taken on a medical care establishment by these idiots needs to be addressed, but I don't think refusal to treat is the answer. All this said, I totally understand the sentiment. Completely.
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)ME TOO!! I feel the same way!!
orleans
(34,051 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,599 posts)Laurelin
(525 posts)I still can't wrap my mind around the concept. I've given horses paste, drenches, IM injections, IV injections and boluses. I've watched them get stuff pumped in via stomach tubes. I've never heard of a pill for a horse. I guess a bolus is close.
I know this isn't at all important but it puzzles me.
Edited for typo.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Maybe they can put a chip in you so we can track your dumbasses...if you survive.
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