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Shermann

(7,399 posts)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:04 PM Sep 2021

Any Camp Pfizer people pulling up stakes and hiking over to Camp Moderna?

The Moderna shot has proven to have slightly better durability than Pfizer. Both boosters are going to be the same dosages of the same formulations as I understand it. This leads to the natural question: would the Moderna booster be a universally better option at this point? Only Pfizer is FDA approved at this time, but that reality will be short-lived.

The official answer appears to be to stick with your one type. However, there is reason to be skeptical of that. Vaccines don't linger in your system for long, after six months the only lasting effect is the imprint on your immune system. That is very different from how a drug regimen works.

Consider the question of whether drugs can be combined with alcohol use or not. The official answer for the 10s of thousands of prescription drugs is NO. Do all these thousands of drugs really have harmful interactions with alcohol? Probably not, but the issue is that pharmaceutical companies aren't going to spend all that money on research and expanded clinical trials to make sure. It just isn't cost effective. So putting that verbiage in there is an easy way to reduce those costs as well as limit any resulting liability.

Is the same thing going on here?


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Any Camp Pfizer people pulling up stakes and hiking over to Camp Moderna? (Original Post) Shermann Sep 2021 OP
I assume they'll be enforcing the official recommendation. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #1
I actually discussed this with my APN, last week Siwsan Sep 2021 #2
I've already gotten the Moderna booster. Haggard Celine Sep 2021 #3
Did you have to make an appointment or just walk into... brush Sep 2021 #7
I made an appointment first. Haggard Celine Sep 2021 #14
Thank you. brush Sep 2021 #16
"However, there is reason to be skeptical of that" brooklynite Sep 2021 #4
I Don't Think You Read It Right ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #9
I citation is needed that its acceptable to switch between different vaccines... brooklynite Sep 2021 #10
That's Not What The OP Said ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #12
Paragraph 2 of the OP... brooklynite Sep 2021 #17
I have always gotten really sick with gldstwmn Sep 2021 #5
Moderna Did Show... ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #11
Just got my booster today voteearlyvoteoften Sep 2021 #6
Good info, thanks! I got my first shots at Walgreens as well. nt Shermann Sep 2021 #20
They are both the same, Corgigal Sep 2021 #8
They actually aren't the same. Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #18
I'm giving Pfizer the one booster, and then I might jump ship. Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #13
I got Pfizer from the VA, and they say they'll let me know about boosters. TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #15
You should not be switching vaccines. FlyingPiggy Sep 2021 #19

Siwsan

(26,250 posts)
2. I actually discussed this with my APN, last week
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:07 PM
Sep 2021

The medical clinic I use gave the Moderna vaccine. I was vaccinated with Pfizer at another location (got an earlier appointment at Meijer). She recommended I stick with Pfizer.

Haggard Celine

(16,835 posts)
3. I've already gotten the Moderna booster.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:14 PM
Sep 2021

My upper arm was very sore around the injection site, and it felt like I had a knot in my back muscles on the same side. No nausea or cold symptoms or anything like that, though. They told me I had to wait a couple of weeks before I get my flu shot, so I'll be going back to do that soon.

Haggard Celine

(16,835 posts)
14. I made an appointment first.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 06:50 PM
Sep 2021

I made an appointment to get the booster at CVS, then I got a text from them saying that I could have my flu shot and my pneumonia and shingles shots done there, too. So I made an appointment for the other shots as well.

Then when I went to get the flu shot I told the nurse that I was scheduled to have the booster shot a few days later. She said that she could give me one shot or the other right then, but I would have to wait two weeks before I got the other. I told her that I thought the booster was more important, so let's do it now.

She asked for my vaccine card and I didn't have it with me, so I had to go all the way home and back so I could get the shot. Don't forget to take it with you!

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
4. "However, there is reason to be skeptical of that"
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:16 PM
Sep 2021

Is that reason based on medical science?

If so, please provide a citation. If not, why is this any better reasoning than HCQ or de-worming paste?

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
9. I Don't Think You Read It Right
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:51 PM
Sep 2021

It's true of all vaccines that the vax itself doesn't linger long term, nor does it have to.
The OP pointed this out as a way to differentiate from a drug therapy. That differentiation exists, and it has been common knowledge for decades that therapeutic drugs & vaccines don't work the same way, physiologically.
No citation is needed to support the obviously true.

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
10. I citation is needed that its acceptable to switch between different vaccines...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:52 PM
Sep 2021

…when CDC has said they don’t recommend it.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
12. That's Not What The OP Said
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 05:28 PM
Sep 2021

It's not even close.
It was clearly making a direct comparison between drug & vaccine mechanisms.
Not sure how you inferred anything other.

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
17. Paragraph 2 of the OP...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:41 PM
Sep 2021

“ The official answer appears to be to stick with your one type. However, there is reason to be skeptical of that.”

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
5. I have always gotten really sick with
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:18 PM
Sep 2021

vaccinations. I'm not going to risk it with Moderna. I've no complaints with Pfizer

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
11. Moderna Did Show...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:52 PM
Sep 2021

...both a higher % of side effects, & somewhat more intense.
For you, staying with Pfizer seems wise.
For me, I was Moderna anyway, so I'll stick with that for the booster.

voteearlyvoteoften

(1,716 posts)
6. Just got my booster today
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:46 PM
Sep 2021

I did try to switch to Moderna but the unvaccinated!! pharmacist at Walgreens wasn’t going for it. He told me “ If I decide to get vaccinated I will get Pfizer” Cue me going What?? You aren’t vaccinated? Well I hardly ever lose it in public but I cussed him out. ( He said something lame about FDA approval) The Covid is raging in Florida and I didn’t want to wait so went to another Walgreens today and got the Pfizer booster. I would have had to lie to get Moderna which would be easy enough just say it was my first and not show my card. It’s been almost 8 months since first 2 Pfizer’s and as it was I had to claim medical necessity. ( Every slot was open on their online appt site so I know I didn’t take it from someone else) Btw they updated their site last night so the option for booster is there( wasn’t yesterday) They will take walk ins too. Sept 20 is the date it opens for everyone for boosters but I know lots of people who have them already. Don’t want to get caught in the rush. So that’s my booster story. Be well and have a great holiday weekend DU friends 🇺🇸👍🏻🌎

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
8. They are both the same,
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:48 PM
Sep 2021

probably don’t need a booster anyway. Titter always wanes after every vaccine, but the HPV shot. They don’t know why it doesn’t with the HPV yet.

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
18. They actually aren't the same.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:15 PM
Sep 2021

They use the same mechanism, but the delivery vehicle is different and the Moderna dose is 3x the quantity of mRNA than the Pfizer.

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