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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLarry Elder once said it can be argued that slave owners were owed reparations
Yes, you read that right.
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You can make an argument that the people that are owed reparations are not only just Black people, but also the people whose property was taken away after the end of the Civil War.
- Republican candidate for California governor Larry Elder
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ExciteBike66
(2,357 posts)The question of paying slave owners was absolutely discussed by Lincoln and others at the time.
However, for a "modern" (I cannot use enough quotes here) person to argue that is just really very out of touch. It's like arguing that rightly convicted murderers should be compensated for their time in prison.
Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)Lincoln never really gave up on the idea of reparations to slave owners, as he thought it would ameliorate the reunion of the states somewhat.
To bring that up in any kind of contemporary argument is . . . well, it's a choice. I'll give it that.
brush
(53,776 posts)The enslaved, on the other hand, got nothing but the clothes on their backs after having their labor stolen for 300 years.
Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)He wanted all of them to get something.
His Cabinet wasn't going for it. Certainly not the Radicals.
brush
(53,776 posts)Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)My memory's correct.
Unless you're talking about outside of America. That's a totally different story. Particularly Haiti.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/slave-owners-paid-reparations/
Relevant bit.
Were Some Slave Owners Paid Reparations by US Government When Slavery Ended?
This claim is true, but only for the District of Columbia. No such reparations were paid to former slave owners when slavery ended across the whole of the United States in 1865.
Lincoln signed the District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act into law on April 16, 1862. The bill immediately freed enslaved people in the district and compensated former slave owners who were loyal to the Union up to $300 for each freeperson, according to the U.S. Senate Historical Office just under $8,000 per person in 2021. (You can read the entire legislation here.)
Over the next nine months, the Board of Commissioners appointed to administer the act approved 930 petitions, completely or in part, from former owners for the freedom of 2,989 former slaves, wrote the U.S. National Archives.
hatrack
(59,585 posts)He pushed Grant to allow the surrendering Confederate soldiers and officers to take their "property" with them.
Spoiler alert: It didn't work.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,809 posts)...could have been packed like sardines on a ship and sent to Africa to live out their lives in slavery.
And my argument would be better than Dipshit Larrys.
keep_left
(1,783 posts)...a character in The Boondocks (comic strip and animated show) by Aaron McGruder.
[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Ruckus|
Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)patphil
(6,173 posts)What a dildo!
brush
(53,776 posts)The enslaved people on the other hand, got nothing but the clothes on their back after having their dawn-to-dusk labor stolen from them for centuries.
Fuck Larry Elder and his concern-for-slave masters property instead on his own ancestors well being.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,361 posts)They gambled and they lost. Rebellion has consequences. So does war. Too bad, so sad. They were not owed SHIT.
Florida Bull
(103 posts)This proposal is very disgusting. No human being should be owned like farm equipment. The plantation owners who violated human rights do not deserve a penny in compensation. The slaveowners who supported the killing of U.S. soldiers in the Civil War should be happy they were not criminally charged for their betrayal of our country.