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Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:37 PM Sep 2021

Lyft statement on Texas law

My friend drives for Lyft and just sent me this.


Dear Lyft Riders and Drivers,

A new Texas law, SB8, threatens to punish drivers for getting people where they need to go — specifically, women exercising their right to choose and to access the healthcare they need.

We want to be clear: Drivers are never responsible for monitoring where their riders go or why. Imagine being a driver and not knowing if you are breaking the law by giving someone a ride. Similarly, riders never have to justify, or even share, where they are going and why. Imagine being a pregnant woman trying to get to a healthcare appointment and not knowing if your driver will cancel on you for fear of breaking a law. Both are completely unacceptable.

This law is incompatible with people's basic rights to privacy, our community guidelines, the spirit of rideshare, and our values as a company. We are taking action on two fronts:
1 Lyft has created a Driver Legal Defense Fund to cover 100% of legal fees for drivers sued under SB8 while driving on our platform. Riders and Drivers: Nothing about how you drive, ride or interact with each other should change.
2 Texas SB8 is an attack on women's right to choose. Lyft is donating $1 million to Planned Parenthood to help ensure that transportation is never a barrier to healthcare access.

If you feel compelled to join us as an individual, you can make a donation here.

Logan and John, Lyft Co-founders
Kristin Sverchek, Lyft General Counsel

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Lyft statement on Texas law (Original Post) Beaverhausen Sep 2021 OP
Good to know. niyad Sep 2021 #1
K & R . . . Lovie777 Sep 2021 #2
That is the correct corporate response. SharonClark Sep 2021 #3
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Sep 2021 #4
Wow - that is an impressive response - starting a legal fund, and donation to Planned Parenthood Pachamama Sep 2021 #5
Holy crap! A million dollars! Ilsa Sep 2021 #6
If she is visibly pregnant - or even if it's not visible, wnylib Sep 2021 #16
If drivers are given addresses of clinics notinkansas Sep 2021 #26
I am giving them points Skittles Sep 2021 #7
I use Lyft. Are they opening themselves to being liable in everything? UTUSN Sep 2021 #8
I doubt it. They mention they have a General Counsel. soldierant Sep 2021 #13
All pending the final SCotUS eventally UTUSN Sep 2021 #15
Like chess Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #22
Right? This curremt B.S. is not a ruling. It's the beginning. The TX thing is *SO* UTUSN Sep 2021 #25
That is how you do it! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2021 #9
They are a wonderful example C_U_L8R Sep 2021 #10
let the war on texas begin ! good going Abbutt ! you start & the U.S. will finish ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #11
Looks like Uber is doing something similar Clash City Rocker Sep 2021 #12
Good!!! calimary Sep 2021 #19
That is seriously some bullshit. Initech Sep 2021 #14
I used to use Uber BidenRocks Sep 2021 #17
Welcome to DU, BidenRocks! calimary Sep 2021 #21
Uber has also announced xmas74 Sep 2021 #28
K&R spanone Sep 2021 #18
There will never be an actual case ever filed. Jon King Sep 2021 #20
I Agree with you leftieNanner Sep 2021 #34
Kickety kick Hekate Sep 2021 #23
Love it! n/t iluvtennis Sep 2021 #24
P.S.: Fuck Texas Blue Owl Sep 2021 #27
Damn! ... Good one Lyft! sarchasm Sep 2021 #29
"riders never have to justify, or even share, where they are going and why" bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #30
Wow, must tell my son who frequently uses Lyft! lark Sep 2021 #31
KnR MiHale Sep 2021 #32
No boycott, outrage, or protest... but positive action JohnnyRingo Sep 2021 #33
Not getting out of Texas, but instead, getting WITH Texas. DFW Sep 2021 #35
Now THIS makes me happy today. llmart Sep 2021 #36
I never understood the "cowboy mystique." calimary Sep 2021 #37
Oh, I couldn't agree more. llmart Sep 2021 #38
I don't either LeftInTX Sep 2021 #39
I know a few real ones. Actual roundups and branding etc. panader0 Sep 2021 #42
I really don't see much of that here, except during rodeo..LOL LeftInTX Sep 2021 #40
Agree TxGuitar Sep 2021 #45
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2021 #41
Uber, too. Yes! Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #43
The law would apply to taxis and public transit as well, right? Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #44
Wow, more of this! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2021 #46

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
5. Wow - that is an impressive response - starting a legal fund, and donation to Planned Parenthood
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:42 PM
Sep 2021


Lyft has my business

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
6. Holy crap! A million dollars!
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:46 PM
Sep 2021

I'm so glad Lyft wrote about the absurdity of their drivers being sued.

Even so, if I was a woman using Lyft, I would give the driver an address two doors down from the clinic, and get out and walk the rest of the way.

wnylib

(21,319 posts)
16. If she is visibly pregnant - or even if it's not visible,
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:00 PM
Sep 2021

two doors down would still be too close. Better to make it a block away, to a plausible place like a store or other public place.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
26. If drivers are given addresses of clinics
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:58 PM
Sep 2021

maybe they could suggest to customers who may be unaware of their liability to go to places a block or so away in order to shield drivers from trouble.

soldierant

(6,785 posts)
13. I doubt it. They mention they have a General Counsel.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:35 PM
Sep 2021

Presumably they took advice.

I suppose they might be sued (hence the defense fund) but suing is not the same as winning.

UTUSN

(70,641 posts)
25. Right? This curremt B.S. is not a ruling. It's the beginning. The TX thing is *SO*
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:57 PM
Sep 2021

absurd legally, canNOT stand.






BidenRocks

(826 posts)
17. I used to use Uber
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:20 PM
Sep 2021

After too many lates and cancels I use Lyft.
Problems happen but I support Lyft and that's that!

calimary

(81,098 posts)
21. Welcome to DU, BidenRocks!
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:38 PM
Sep 2021

And next time you use Lyft, make sure to thank the driver for Lyft's strong stand FOR women!

Positive reinforcement never hurts! And they might possibly pass it on up the food chain.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
20. There will never be an actual case ever filed.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:38 PM
Sep 2021

If they ever filed a case the entire sham would be destroyed on multiple levels by all sorts of attorneys hired by Planned Parenthood and progressive groups. Its a scare tactic.

leftieNanner

(15,060 posts)
34. I Agree with you
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 10:39 AM
Sep 2021

They are hoping that the clinics will shut their doors voluntarily because they fear the suits.

bucolic_frolic

(43,036 posts)
30. "riders never have to justify, or even share, where they are going and why"
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 08:35 AM
Sep 2021

Well, they will in Texas or you wouldn't have funded a legal defense fund for drivers. But you're covered!

DFW

(54,272 posts)
35. Not getting out of Texas, but instead, getting WITH Texas.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:46 AM
Sep 2021

That is what companies run by people with a conscience can, and should do. Don't like it? Call a taxi or get a horse.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
36. Now THIS makes me happy today.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:10 PM
Sep 2021

I hope more and more companies take Lyft's example and run with it. Those that don't? Let's hope we can hit their bottom line by boycotting them.

Years ago I used to have to go to Houston and Dallas on business. I told my husband don't you ever ask me to transfer to that hell hole. I hated it even back in the 80's and 90's. Bunch of toxic masculinity all wrapped up in cowboy hats and boots even though they'd never been on a horse strutting their stuff where ever I saw them. Ugh. Lot of prissy assed women too who thought these guys were a real catch. Ugh again.

calimary

(81,098 posts)
37. I never understood the "cowboy mystique."
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:27 PM
Sep 2021

Never understood it. Or found it all that appealing.

And whenever I see a grown man dressed as a cowboy and it’s not for Halloween or a play or something, I always see arrested development. There’s a five-year-old strutting around in a grown man’s body.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
38. Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:30 PM
Sep 2021

I was living in the South (not from there myself) and had to travel throughout the region. I was a degreed woman in a professional job at a very large multinational corporation and they didn't "cotton to" (the South's lingo, not mine) a woman having a better job and more education than they did. Some of them were very patronizing to me. I didn't find that attitude in most of the other Southern states I travelled to.

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
39. I don't either
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:49 PM
Sep 2021

We do have rodeo here, which is the same as a county fair in other states.
All the 4-H kids and their livestock projects come from all over the state.
The grand champion steer will fetch up to $100K in scholarships.


It's the two weeks that we enjoy the cowboy thing and it's fun to explore and appreciate the rural side of the state and all of the hard work involved that brought them to the rodeo, but then it's back to life.

I see a bunch of people in cowboy hats running around town during rodeo, but much of it is cosplay..LOL
I've never worn a hat at rodeo, despite the fact that I've volunteered for the master gardeners at the rodeo on numerous occasions.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
42. I know a few real ones. Actual roundups and branding etc.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 02:41 PM
Sep 2021

I believe that our own Kali is a cowgirl.

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
40. I really don't see much of that here, except during rodeo..LOL
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:10 PM
Sep 2021

Guys usually don't own cowboy boots unless they have a reason to.
Outdoor work that involves possible contact with stickers and rattlesnakes is a reason to own a pair.

(It's tempting to get cowboy boots just to deal with the stickers in my easement, but I've got flat feet and can't wear them)

If I encounter guys with cowboy hats and boots, I usually see them at Tractor Supply.

I'm from Wisconsin and the obligatory uniform during hunting season up there was camo, so there's that.....

There is some cosplay that goes on with cowboy themes, because there are plenty of country and western bars here.
The 80's gave rise of the "Urban Cowboy", so there's that..LOL
The urban cowboy thing has pretty much run it's course.



If you come to San Antonio, you will be hit with so many taco places that you will be like, "Can't I find anything else?" Seriously...Tex-Mex isn't particularly healthy when you are craving a healthy salad.

You will also be greeted by marachis at fine establishments, but in suburbia, it's just a taco place or two or three or four at every intersection.

There are four taquerias at the intersection that is 3 miles from my home, but to get to that intersection, I have to pass five taquerias first. There is also a Mexican bakery on the way, but I love stopping there...LOL

If you were sent here on business, I kinda doubt you would see the cowboy thing unless:

You were at a CW venue
Visiting during rodeo
Staying in ruralish areas outside of town (There are nice places to stay there..like around the Dominion and Six Flags, but they attract rednecks because the area buts up to rural areas)

If you would go to a downtown establishment right now, the odds of seeing cowboy types are rare. You're more likely to see sunburnt tourists.

TxGuitar

(4,177 posts)
45. Agree
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 02:54 PM
Sep 2021

You really don't see it much, and those cowboy cosplayers tend stick out even to other Texans, at least in the Houston area. You see it more in the country, but like you said, some of it is really more for protection from the elements and critters than any sort of dress

On the other hand there are those huge pickups. A lot of people need them for work, but there are a lot more that are pristine status symbols that have never seen a speck of dirt.

Wounded Bear

(58,594 posts)
44. The law would apply to taxis and public transit as well, right?
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 02:46 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe Texans should start reporting buses that give rides to women on the way to clinics and suing the city.

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