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This right here is ultimately why GOP are pushing for Elder (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
Not gonna happen, repugs. Polls show Newsom is winning. brush Sep 2021 #1
word has it that republicans vote later and in person IcyPeas Sep 2021 #5
The reports today, one just on cable, say there is light turn out. brush Sep 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Marius25 Sep 2021 #15
Pls stop repeating that "republicans are more motivated than Democrats." brush Sep 2021 #18
The evidence says you're wrong. This is a scipan Sep 2021 #20
I disagree, it's not a right-wing talking point. Marius25 Sep 2021 #22
I said it was an "easy talking point." Sometimes jounalists,... brush Sep 2021 #23
Well, first of all, I do NOT expect him to beat Governor Gavin Newsom. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2021 #2
:) Well stated! Hortensis Sep 2021 #17
Hey gqp...what did turtle do in KY? Oh right, with a super majority he made sure they PortTack Sep 2021 #3
Nonsense. That would just be a bonus FBaggins Sep 2021 #4
This. A Republican CA governor would be huge, and Elder's Hortensis Sep 2021 #9
Feinstein could do everyone a favor and resign now. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2021 #7
I assumed the OP was about displaying the trumpists' ugliness and stupidity. Hortensis Sep 2021 #12
"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"? czarjak Sep 2021 #8
If the PTOS has a mental condition Jerry2144 Sep 2021 #10
Keep Newsome +8.6 spanone Sep 2021 #11
What happens if neither "keep" nor "remove" has a majority? subterranean Sep 2021 #14
Yes erpowers Sep 2021 #21
Why do these right wing nuts like to refer to themselves in the third person??? /nt spudspud Sep 2021 #13
Elder's mouth is the gift that keeps donating to Newsom's campaign. Grokenstein Sep 2021 #16
He has NEVER been elected to xxqqqzme Sep 2021 #19

brush

(53,764 posts)
1. Not gonna happen, repugs. Polls show Newsom is winning.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 03:57 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe next time there's a Dem gov. you can't beat in the regular election so you try a recall.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
5. word has it that republicans vote later and in person
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:37 PM
Sep 2021

in person voting has just started here, so we will see if the numbers change at all as of this week.

I hope you are right.

brush

(53,764 posts)
6. The reports today, one just on cable, say there is light turn out.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:46 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)

I feel that the often stated phrase that "republican enthusiasm" is greater than that of the Democrats is over-hyped. Polls of likely voters favor Newsom 58% to 34%.

Dems know Elder is another DeSantis out to ban masks and vaccines. And he's no Arnold.

Response to brush (Reply #1)

brush

(53,764 posts)
18. Pls stop repeating that "republicans are more motivated than Democrats."
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:02 PM
Sep 2021

There's no proof of that. It's just an easy talking point that's spread out there and lazy reporters keep repeating it.

If you don't believe actual polls that show likely voters favor Newsom 58% to 34%, and women voters favor Newsom 62% over anti-abortionist Elder, why do you believe some unproven statement that republicans are more motivated?

Where is that poll, where is that proven?


The final results are not in the bag but I'm willing to bet that on Sept. 15 Newsom will still be governor.







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Marius25

(3,213 posts)
22. I disagree, it's not a right-wing talking point.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 09:10 PM
Sep 2021

Even Joy Reid brought the subject up last night. But I deleted it since I'm sure someone will report me for being concerned.

brush

(53,764 posts)
23. I said it was an "easy talking point." Sometimes jounalists,...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 12:19 AM
Sep 2021

even progressive journalists, repeat what is supposed to be accepted wisdom, but there's no proof that republicans are more motivated than Democrats on this.

Anyone can say that.

What seems more obvious is that Democrats are more motivated on this as Elder wants to ban masks, vaccines and women's rights and turn California into another Texas or Florida with covid spiking all over the place, POC votes being suppressed and abortions banned.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,583 posts)
2. Well, first of all, I do NOT expect him to beat Governor Gavin Newsom.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:00 PM
Sep 2021

And Elder is sadly mistaken about President Biden's mental capacity. He outshines all the Republicans!

And thirdly, Dianne Feinstein is also just fine.

I think that covers it.

Dream on, you brass-plated idiot.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. :) Well stated!
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:53 PM
Sep 2021

Polls say there's a huge gender gap, with 62% of women saying Newsome's doing a good job, and only 34% of men.

Who knows? Stretch as it seems, perhaps the title of the OP's at least partially right, that hostility toward the woman is powering the recall.

PortTack

(32,754 posts)
3. Hey gqp...what did turtle do in KY? Oh right, with a super majority he made sure they
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:14 PM
Sep 2021

would pick his successor...not the governor

Last I checked CA has a super majority. They can’t think beyond their pencil...better not say it

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
4. Nonsense. That would just be a bonus
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:24 PM
Sep 2021

Knocking off the most powerful remaining Democratic governor - and specifically due to his Covid policies - would be quite the coup.

DF isn’t exactly young, but the chances of dying in the next year aren’t all that high. She certainly wouldn’t retire for Elder if she wouldn’t do it for Newsome.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. This. A Republican CA governor would be huge, and Elder's
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:18 PM
Sep 2021

nasty enough to suit their voters and corrupt enough for their donors. Even on the right, not just anyone has the stomach for what's required these days. Most who might have in the past do not run for office.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. I assumed the OP was about displaying the trumpists' ugliness and stupidity.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:33 PM
Sep 2021

Why else would Elders' vicious slurs be posted here? Caving to them, out of fear or anything else, would be no favor to me.

Jerry2144

(2,099 posts)
10. If the PTOS has a mental condition
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:24 PM
Sep 2021

Then The Korrupt Korpulent Koprolite who just left the white house has a more serious mental condition along the lines of basalt or perhaps sedimentary rock (after all look at that criminal's lifestyle. sedimentary is more his rock style.). Joe is sharp, brilliant, and has a heart of gold.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
14. What happens if neither "keep" nor "remove" has a majority?
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:45 PM
Sep 2021

Let's say, for example, that 49 percent vote to keep, but 46 percent vote to remove (and 5 percent abstain from voting either way). Would Newsom still be removed in that scenario because he fell short of 50 percent? I'm not sure how it works.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
21. Yes
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:41 PM
Sep 2021

That is the problem with recall in California. Gavin Newsome, as far as I know, has to get 51% of the vote to stay in office. So Newsome could lose the election with 49-50% of the vote while Larry Elder could win the election only 18% of the vote. Last I heard, Elder is the leading opponent, but is only polling at 18% of the vote.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
16. Elder's mouth is the gift that keeps donating to Newsom's campaign.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:51 PM
Sep 2021

But if you're a Californian, you still need to vote no.

Anyone who comes up to me and says "Oh, I didn't bother because I thought/knew it was in the bag" is going to regret it, regardless of the outcome of the recall.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
19. He has NEVER been elected to
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:31 PM
Sep 2021

ANY thing, not even class clown. So of course the rethugs think he can handle the world's 5th largest economy, Are-nolt thought he had it wired too, piece of cake!

Took Jerry Brown 8 years to clean up that mess.

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