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kentuck

(111,056 posts)
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:28 PM Sep 2021

Who will save the Republic ?

Is there another Abraham Lincoln out there somewhere?

Perhaps you think it is simple hyperbole? That our Republic does not need to be saved?

Perhaps I would have agreed a few months ago? Or even a few weeks ago?

But the Big Lie can no longer be killed. It has a life of its own, in my opinion. We had a chance to kill it but no one did. It is now a monster, living on its own, and no one that believes it will ever change their mind.

Would it make any difference if the Supreme Court made a ruling that denounced the Big Lie? Would it make any difference if the Select Committee comes out with all the facts and who was responsible for the attack upon our Capitol? Have we waited too long?

I'm not sure anyone can now save this Republic. The Big Lie has grown out of control.

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Who will save the Republic ? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2021 OP
Voters, I hope. Little over a year away. Hoyt Sep 2021 #1
the GOP is gaming the voting system Skittles Sep 2021 #5
We vote, we win. Happened in 2020 in red states like Georgia. Hoyt Sep 2021 #8
They say... kentuck Sep 2021 #10
Some say that. Stacey Abrams and Mayor Bottoms don't. They believe Hoyt Sep 2021 #15
I think John Roberts is the key. But he had shown nothing close to Constitutionality. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #2
America seems a freeway of disrespect, hate, and violence Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #3
It is up to us..all of us Deuxcents Sep 2021 #4
Eleanor Roosevelt: ''Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being.'' Donkees Sep 2021 #11
Ty for re posting Deuxcents Sep 2021 #14
No one person. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #6
I would also add... kentuck Sep 2021 #7
There is a post Deuxcents Sep 2021 #9
Who will save bdamomma Sep 2021 #12
Any "more perfect union" ymetca Sep 2021 #13
It's up to us, Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #16
"Who will save the Republic ?" myohmy2 Sep 2021 #17

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
5. the GOP is gaming the voting system
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:21 PM
Sep 2021

not just suppressing the vote, but taking control of elections

kentuck

(111,056 posts)
10. They say...
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:34 PM
Sep 2021

...if the election were held today, we would not win Georgia. Because of the changes already made. I don't wish to sound too negative but we have a big job on our hands.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. Some say that. Stacey Abrams and Mayor Bottoms don't. They believe
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 08:06 PM
Sep 2021

education on deadlines, etc., will work.

Yeah, there are some troubling aspects of the law that COULD happen. But there are remedies too.

Backseat Driver

(4,381 posts)
3. America seems a freeway of disrespect, hate, and violence
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:51 PM
Sep 2021

on the road to perdition and ignominy. The problem is that a lot of us no longer believe that easy treatment and a chance to repent will make much difference. Civility has vanished, the unborn with no memory is cherished; criminality is no reason to take life - no ideas are worth dying for and hypocrisy and fear reign. We live on our monied debt to Founding Fathers and worship the Mother of Invention - the Fathers are long absent of civility, altruistic patriotic love and fear the competition of youth who fight with bullets aimed backwards, and Mother Nature, now an old hag, instead of a beautiful generous maiden, has taken up residence and is on a rampage to change the shape and living style of nations!

I'm glad I'm nearing the liberty in my road upon this land, though I do not seek it. I hope America finds a path less traveled for that will make all the difference. I fear the furious wreck on the freeway of this nation if it doesn't.

Deuxcents

(16,093 posts)
4. It is up to us..all of us
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:20 PM
Sep 2021

To save this Republic. We can whine n mope but that will not get anything done. Not one person can save us..it is all of us n if my prediction is right..it’s gonna be the women. Where are the men of any statue..besides Biden..who are lining up behind these assaults on voting rights n women’s reproductive rights n climate change n infrastructure issues? History is full of women who took the back seat but change could not have happened without them. I think now, we’re gonna have to be n will be out front n don’t count us out. Support these issues..don’t watch em fade away.

Donkees

(31,344 posts)
11. Eleanor Roosevelt: ''Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being.''
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:37 PM
Sep 2021





The Women Who Shaped the Universal Declaration of Human Rights



Dec 6, 2018

Eleanor Roosevelt was instrumental in drafting the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. But she was not alone. Discover who are the women who shaped the major instrument for the defense of Human Rights.





Deuxcents

(16,093 posts)
9. There is a post
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:32 PM
Sep 2021

That was just what I was saying.. the women who shaped the universal declaration of human rights.. a good post by Donkees @ 5:52 pm.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
13. Any "more perfect union"
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:42 PM
Sep 2021

has to be global. The era of imaginary borders and someone claiming to "represent" me is coming to a close. We're all "global citizens" now, whether we like it or not. The planet is making that perfectly clear.

So, no, the Republic doesn't need saving. The ideals we espouse should live on - freedom of assembly, of the "press", of individual, inalienable human rights - these most surely must survive.

But the systems of hierarchical control and oppression, and the concentration of power into too few hands - these must be phased out, or the mass extinctions will continue at our collective peril.

Elessar Zappa

(13,912 posts)
16. It's up to us,
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 08:07 PM
Sep 2021

the majority of sane citizens in this country, to wrest control from the fascists. It can be done if we mobilize and vote.

myohmy2

(3,142 posts)
17. "Who will save the Republic ?"
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 08:18 PM
Sep 2021

...from the Republi-can'ts?

...I don't know...it's getting pretty late in this movie...I thought we would have hung a few thousand traitors by now, in and out of government and swept the place clean...

...the longer this has dragged on the more it's been impossibly politicized...

...we have the reins of power right now...if we don't get about doing it then it won't get done...kiss the Republic goodbye?

...it sure doesn't look good...

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