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Fuck the New York Times - warmongering, Trump-worshipping piece of shit newspaper (Original Post) dalton99a Sep 2021 OP
Oh my. Like my husband says Dems eat their own. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #1
i dont think there are many dems at nyt. mopinko Sep 2021 #17
Similar storIes were posted elsewhere online left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #2
But even if it were true Moebym Sep 2021 #8
It's a rule never to give the benefit of the doubt to a Democrat. In this case, that Biden betsuni Sep 2021 #13
So why did the NYT change the headline? n/t malaise Sep 2021 #22
Why ask me? left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #26
That the NY Times decided to make that the headline, doesn't say very much for the paper that JohnSJ Sep 2021 #25
Every paper has an 'editorial viewpoint' left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #27
Then why did they change it? n/t malaise Sep 2021 #28
Why ask me ? left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #32
My understanding is this is not an editorial comment, it was a news story, and that is what they JohnSJ Sep 2021 #29
My name says it! BidenRocks Sep 2021 #3
I've noticed for a while DFW Sep 2021 #4
three words: YELL O CAKE! ok, I'm out... bringthePaine Sep 2021 #5
Well... Mike Nelson Sep 2021 #6
Commercial Media Roy Rolling Sep 2021 #7
Every time Maggie Haberman goes on CNN LittleGirl Sep 2021 #9
Some of these families may have already been of the right wing persuasion Walleye Sep 2021 #10
Or they just wanted to grieve for their own child left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #11
Oh that's true but it seems everything is twisted politically these days Walleye Sep 2021 #12
i'm assuming that as well. mopinko Sep 2021 #18
When the NYT ran an article about Biden wearing a Rolex, I permanently canceled my subscription. texasfiddler Sep 2021 #14
It was petty and intentional - to destroy decades of his taking the train to work dalton99a Sep 2021 #19
😲😲😲, NYT had its own Tan Suit article about Biden uponit7771 Sep 2021 #21
On the first day of Biden's Presidency no less. Thanks dalton99a for the proof. texasfiddler Sep 2021 #31
My sentiments are with the OP. love_katz Sep 2021 #15
Each time I get a letter from the NY Times to subscribe, it goes in the recycle can JohnSJ Sep 2021 #16
War profiteers and their MSM tools are not happy with President Biden Roisin Ni Fiachra Sep 2021 #20
+1. Their history of beating the drums for the Iraq war and smearing the Clintons is well documented dalton99a Sep 2021 #23
Follow the money, never fails appalachiablue Sep 2021 #40
The NYT is deplorable. Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #24
Totally - fuck the NYT, cancel your subscriptions. lark Sep 2021 #30
Nope. NYT is fine, as are WaPo, CNN, and others. gulliver Sep 2021 #33
Well, screw them. nt Baked Potato Sep 2021 #34
Canceled my $1 subscription just now - nt Dunsterville Sep 2021 #35
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2021 #47
I was seriously pissed off at Dana Bash on CNN this morning belaboring the meme that Biden Vinca Sep 2021 #36
"Biden View profile is pushing booster shots when he shouldn't be, yada, yada, yada" left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #38
No, they were discussing it more in the vein of Biden fucked up. Vinca Sep 2021 #42
CNN is a pos network just lke fox news rockfordfile Sep 2021 #43
And, you are telling me this .. because ? left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #45
Check out "Lies of Our Times"... Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #37
If you're on twitter , follow @jayrosen_nyu JoanofArgh Sep 2021 #39
+1 dalton99a Sep 2021 #46
And of all people, the NYT's Maureen Dowd gives Biden strong support, today. Paladin Sep 2021 #41
Corporate media is not our friend! iwannaknow Sep 2021 #44

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. Similar storIes were posted elsewhere online
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 02:34 AM
Sep 2021

Apparently some of the families who went to Dover Air Force Base to receive the bodies of their loved ones felt Biden spent too much time talking about the death of his son Beau and not about the loss of their loved ones.

Biden was there to honor their loss and some expressed feelings and opinions that their loss should have been what Biden concentrated on.

So f*** and s*** all you want.

At least in that one story The New York Times appears to have reported sentiments expressed there by the grieving families and published in a number of outlets.

Moebym

(989 posts)
8. But even if it were true
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 04:54 AM
Sep 2021

that some of the families had expressed the opinion that Biden should have spent more time on their losses than his own, that NYT headline was incredibly insensitive to him, IMO. The reason he brings up Beau's death so often is not to diminish other people's losses but to show that he understands what they're going through.

By the way, they have since changed that headline after having received backlash, so it's clear many people felt the same way as the OP and me about it.

betsuni

(25,519 posts)
13. It's a rule never to give the benefit of the doubt to a Democrat. In this case, that Biden
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 06:26 AM
Sep 2021

wanted to share his experience of loss with others going through the same thing. If that had happened to a Republican president it NEVER would've been mentioned. Like, when the Bush administration stopped any press coverage of dead soldiers returning to the U.S., weren't there many families upset about that? Press didn't care.

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
25. That the NY Times decided to make that the headline, doesn't say very much for the paper that
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 09:27 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sun Sep 5, 2021, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

gave us Judith Miller, pushed us to invade a country based on a lie, blamed the climate crisis on the "hubris" of President Obama, the LIE that the email investigation had been reopened, and a dozen other things that were either misrepresented, or actually untrue

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
32. Why ask me ?
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 11:33 AM
Sep 2021

If you are in the United States, call us at 800-NYTIMES (800-698-4637).

Our hours are 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. E.T. Monday - Friday, and 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. E.T. Saturday - Sunday.

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
29. My understanding is this is not an editorial comment, it was a news story, and that is what they
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 10:48 AM
Sep 2021

choose to headline the story with

They knew what they were doing, just like the other references I alluded to


DFW

(54,378 posts)
4. I've noticed for a while
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 03:27 AM
Sep 2021

Ever since Trump lost, the NYT editorial board seems to have felt an unexplained need to appear “even-handed.” Instead, they miscalculated, and tipped so far to the right as to make the Murdoch family want to sue for copyright infringement.

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
6. Well...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 03:57 AM
Sep 2021

... the whole angle on Afghanistan should have been the mistakes made by the G W Bush Administration, but the so-called "Liberal Media" will fall over itself to find the angle that makes them look objective. This is a mistake the "Conservative Media" does not make. They find their angle, stick with it, and bully the "Liberal Media" into trying to prove itself. All the reporting about "The Big Lie" means the NYT and others now have to take Biden down a few pegs... to show they are "Fair and Balanced" (as in FOX's "Big Lie&quot .

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
7. Commercial Media
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 04:24 AM
Sep 2021

They must turn a profit. Their loyalty is to their advertisers—they pay the salaries. Tens of millions of Americans are weasels who voted for Trump. So the NYT still must contain 10% weasel news to be objective.

I’m not a weasel, but hearing what the weasels are saying is better from the NYT than right-wing propaganda outlets disguised as commercial media. It gives context to non-weasels like all of us.

That being said, a certain percentage of the time it’s also appropriate and necessary to say “fuck the New York Times” when they run weasel content.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
9. Every time Maggie Haberman goes on CNN
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 05:12 AM
Sep 2021

I mute her. The whole 45 tenure, she talked like she had conversations with him and it just made my blood boil.

I agree

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
14. When the NYT ran an article about Biden wearing a Rolex, I permanently canceled my subscription.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:05 AM
Sep 2021

Fox entertainment is ruining our country with propaganda. NYT is aiding and abetting.

love_katz

(2,579 posts)
15. My sentiments are with the OP.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:40 AM
Sep 2021

Both sides DON'T! Corporate owned media playing the both sides do it game is how we got stuck with tRump. Follow the money. It's all about them being able to sell more ads by creating fake controversy. Liberal media, my a!.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
20. War profiteers and their MSM tools are not happy with President Biden
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 08:58 AM
Sep 2021

for drying up the milk from their cash cow.

President Biden is doing a great job as POTUS. If the war profiteers hate you, you are doing something good.

peace

lark

(23,099 posts)
30. Totally - fuck the NYT, cancel your subscriptions.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 10:49 AM
Sep 2021

I did years ago and will not come back. Every once in a while, they print something brave and pertinent, but too much is just both- siderisms and it makes me sick. So now I subscribe to WaPo (not perfect, but better than NYT) and read the occasional article in the grey lady.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
33. Nope. NYT is fine, as are WaPo, CNN, and others.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 11:51 AM
Sep 2021

You have to take the bad with the good. Most of what is called news is schlock. It's just churned out like fast food, using cheap-as-possible processes and supply lines. That forces opinion into the news since it is so cheap and so readily available. And, as in the case with most "news" reporting on the Afghanistan withdrawal, opinion is mostly mediocre and cursed by groupthink.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
36. I was seriously pissed off at Dana Bash on CNN this morning belaboring the meme that Biden
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 01:16 PM
Sep 2021

is pushing booster shots when he shouldn't be, yada, yada, yada. All this will do is give more fodder to the anti-vaxxers to continue their incubation of new variants. If Biden gets ahead of himself, it's only because he doesn't want us to die a slow, agonizing death. Maybe I'm in my libtard bubble, but I don't recall her bashing Trump for having no vaccine plan beyond throwing large piles of taxpayer dollars at drug companies to hurry them up - or any other plan for Covid - and doing all he could to spread the disease. Biden faced zero plan for distribution when the vaccine finally appeared and then he's hit with crazies who will willingly take horse dewormer first. All things considered, I think he's doing very well given what he's up against.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
38. "Biden View profile is pushing booster shots when he shouldn't be, yada, yada, yada"
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 01:26 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe they were discussing this ?

"WHO presses world leaders to hold off on Covid vaccine booster shots through September”
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/01/who-presses-world-leaders-to-hold-off-on-covid-booster-shots-through-september.html

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
37. Check out "Lies of Our Times"...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 01:21 PM
Sep 2021

LOOT documented the errors, omissions, falsehoods, misinformation and disinformation from NYT. Didn’t outlast the reactionary swarm, this treasure to correct the paper of record.

https://archive.org/details/LiesOfOurTimesCollection

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
39. If you're on twitter , follow @jayrosen_nyu
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 01:38 PM
Sep 2021

He's an NYU journalism professor that's been calling out the media in this country for some time, especially the NYT. He also has a really good website called pressthink.org



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Paladin

(28,257 posts)
41. And of all people, the NYT's Maureen Dowd gives Biden strong support, today.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 02:28 PM
Sep 2021

You just never can tell about ol' Mo...

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