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Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)mopinko
(70,103 posts)if there are, nobody listens to them.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Apparently some of the families who went to Dover Air Force Base to receive the bodies of their loved ones felt Biden spent too much time talking about the death of his son Beau and not about the loss of their loved ones.
Biden was there to honor their loss and some expressed feelings and opinions that their loss should have been what Biden concentrated on.
So f*** and s*** all you want.
At least in that one story The New York Times appears to have reported sentiments expressed there by the grieving families and published in a number of outlets.
Moebym
(989 posts)that some of the families had expressed the opinion that Biden should have spent more time on their losses than his own, that NYT headline was incredibly insensitive to him, IMO. The reason he brings up Beau's death so often is not to diminish other people's losses but to show that he understands what they're going through.
By the way, they have since changed that headline after having received backlash, so it's clear many people felt the same way as the OP and me about it.
betsuni
(25,519 posts)wanted to share his experience of loss with others going through the same thing. If that had happened to a Republican president it NEVER would've been mentioned. Like, when the Bush administration stopped any press coverage of dead soldiers returning to the U.S., weren't there many families upset about that? Press didn't care.
malaise
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left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 5, 2021, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)
gave us Judith Miller, pushed us to invade a country based on a lie, blamed the climate crisis on the "hubris" of President Obama, the LIE that the email investigation had been reopened, and a dozen other things that were either misrepresented, or actually untrue
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)One we agree with or not.
malaise
(268,998 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)If you are in the United States, call us at 800-NYTIMES (800-698-4637).
Our hours are 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. E.T. Monday - Friday, and 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. E.T. Saturday - Sunday.
JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)choose to headline the story with
They knew what they were doing, just like the other references I alluded to
BidenRocks
(827 posts)Screw the NYT.
DFW
(54,378 posts)Ever since Trump lost, the NYT editorial board seems to have felt an unexplained need to appear even-handed. Instead, they miscalculated, and tipped so far to the right as to make the Murdoch family want to sue for copyright infringement.
bringthePaine
(1,728 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,955 posts)... the whole angle on Afghanistan should have been the mistakes made by the G W Bush Administration, but the so-called "Liberal Media" will fall over itself to find the angle that makes them look objective. This is a mistake the "Conservative Media" does not make. They find their angle, stick with it, and bully the "Liberal Media" into trying to prove itself. All the reporting about "The Big Lie" means the NYT and others now have to take Biden down a few pegs... to show they are "Fair and Balanced" (as in FOX's "Big Lie" .
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)They must turn a profit. Their loyalty is to their advertisersthey pay the salaries. Tens of millions of Americans are weasels who voted for Trump. So the NYT still must contain 10% weasel news to be objective.
Im not a weasel, but hearing what the weasels are saying is better from the NYT than right-wing propaganda outlets disguised as commercial media. It gives context to non-weasels like all of us.
That being said, a certain percentage of the time its also appropriate and necessary to say fuck the New York Times when they run weasel content.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)I mute her. The whole 45 tenure, she talked like she had conversations with him and it just made my blood boil.
I agree
Walleye
(31,022 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Walleye
(31,022 posts)mopinko
(70,103 posts)otherwise, it makes no frickin sense.
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)Fox entertainment is ruining our country with propaganda. NYT is aiding and abetting.
dalton99a
(81,487 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)love_katz
(2,579 posts)Both sides DON'T! Corporate owned media playing the both sides do it game is how we got stuck with tRump. Follow the money. It's all about them being able to sell more ads by creating fake controversy. Liberal media, my a!.
JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)for drying up the milk from their cash cow.
President Biden is doing a great job as POTUS. If the war profiteers hate you, you are doing something good.
peace
dalton99a
(81,487 posts)appalachiablue
(41,132 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,709 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)I did years ago and will not come back. Every once in a while, they print something brave and pertinent, but too much is just both- siderisms and it makes me sick. So now I subscribe to WaPo (not perfect, but better than NYT) and read the occasional article in the grey lady.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)You have to take the bad with the good. Most of what is called news is schlock. It's just churned out like fast food, using cheap-as-possible processes and supply lines. That forces opinion into the news since it is so cheap and so readily available. And, as in the case with most "news" reporting on the Afghanistan withdrawal, opinion is mostly mediocre and cursed by groupthink.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Dunsterville
(12 posts)gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)Vinca
(50,271 posts)is pushing booster shots when he shouldn't be, yada, yada, yada. All this will do is give more fodder to the anti-vaxxers to continue their incubation of new variants. If Biden gets ahead of himself, it's only because he doesn't want us to die a slow, agonizing death. Maybe I'm in my libtard bubble, but I don't recall her bashing Trump for having no vaccine plan beyond throwing large piles of taxpayer dollars at drug companies to hurry them up - or any other plan for Covid - and doing all he could to spread the disease. Biden faced zero plan for distribution when the vaccine finally appeared and then he's hit with crazies who will willingly take horse dewormer first. All things considered, I think he's doing very well given what he's up against.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Maybe they were discussing this ?
"WHO presses world leaders to hold off on Covid vaccine booster shots through September
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/01/who-presses-world-leaders-to-hold-off-on-covid-booster-shots-through-september.html
Vinca
(50,271 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,904 posts)LOOT documented the errors, omissions, falsehoods, misinformation and disinformation from NYT. Didnt outlast the reactionary swarm, this treasure to correct the paper of record.
https://archive.org/details/LiesOfOurTimesCollection
JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)He's an NYU journalism professor that's been calling out the media in this country for some time, especially the NYT. He also has a really good website called pressthink.org
Link to tweet
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Link to tweet
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Paladin
(28,257 posts)You just never can tell about ol' Mo...
iwannaknow
(210 posts)No matter how much we may want to believe otherwise.