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Florida 'active shooter rampage' leaves 4, including baby, dead; 11-year-old wounded
Florida deputies and officers responded to an "active shooter rampage" early Sunday, as a gunman "outfitted in body armor" allegedly killed four people, including an infant, and wounded an 11-year-old girl before barricading himself inside a house and firing at law enforcement.
The unidentified suspect, who eventually surrendered to police, had come "ready for battle," had described himself a "survivalist" and allegedly admitted to "being high on meth," Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said at an initial press conference Sunday.
Judd described how a deputy initially responded to a "suspicious vehicle/person" call around 7:30 p.m. Saturday in an unincorporated area of Lakewood. A woman told authorities a man had arrived in a vehicle and told her, "God sent me here to speak with one of your daughters," Judd said.
Deputies canvassed the area for about 20 minutes but no one was found. Nine hours later, a lieutenant in the area on a separate call heard "two volleys of automatic gunfire" around 4:30 a.m. Sunday, Judd said, and around the same time, 911 calls came in about the active shooting.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/florida-active-shooter-rampage-leaves-4-including-baby-dead-11-year-old-wounded/ar-AAO7PpU?ocid=msedgntp
Officers do not believe the suspect was from the area, and are trying to determine a motive.
He said it is unclear at this time whether the suspect knew the victims.
But, Judd said, the suspect made statements to officials that he is a survivalist and was taking methamphetamines.
His truck had a Marine Corps license plate, and was equipped with a first aid kit and bandages to stop some bleeding.
He will be booked in county jail after he is released from the hospital.
'It would've been nice if he came out with a firearm,' Judd said. 'If he'd given us the opportunity, we'd have shot him up a lot, but he didn't because he was a coward.
'You see, it's easy to shoot innocent children and babies and people in the middle of the night when you've got the gun and they don't,' he said, 'but he was not much of a man.'
Judd concluded the news conference Sunday morning by saying: 'Crazy people with guns are dangerous - good people with guns keep crazy people with guns at bay.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9959995/Three-adults-baby-shot-dead-girl-11-wounded-body-armored-gunman.html
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)This guy needs to imprisoned on the moon.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)The Nazis used Pervatin on their troops to help them fight better & survive battle. That was the brand name of crystal meth.
Given this guy's background, I find it easy to believe he would know about Nazis.
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)Gun humpers, why weren't you prepared?
Ohio Joe
(21,752 posts)Oh wait... That shit does not change anything or fix the problem so lets try 'MOAR GUNS!!!'
Yeah, that shit don't work either. Welcome to a right wing death cult state... Sheesh.
Cetacea
(7,367 posts)Pro-lifers for death!
Aristus
(66,316 posts)What a hero...
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)"Wish he woulda' come out wita' gun - n' then we coulda' shot him." F*cking GREAT!
(Although I'll try to grant some latitude given volatile situation and heightened emotions. But, dude - if you're a freaking dumbass - maybe you should avoid the TV cameras and mic?)
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)sop
(10,156 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)'It would've been nice if he came out with a firearm,' Judd said. 'If he'd given us the opportunity, we'd have shot him up a lot, but he didn't because he was a coward.
'You see, it's easy to shoot innocent children and babies and people in the middle of the night when you've got the gun and they don't,' he said, 'but he was not much of a man.'
IbogaProject
(2,804 posts)If only the good baby had a gun, or maybe the 11 year old. These pro gun death guys sure are wicked.
Chellee
(2,095 posts)What level of moron do you have to be to elect someone so egregiously incompetent?
This guy, my God.
First, there's this gem : "The next morning, Judd said, officers responded to calls of an active shooter in the area and found the suspect in full body armor, but did not immediately recognize him as the shooter when he went back into the house near Lake Gibson High School."
You saw someone in full body armor while looking for a shooter and didn't question it? What? What??? Really?
Second, his statements to the press are so shockingly awful I'm without words to describe it. "It would've been nice if he came out with a firearm," Judd said. "If he'd given us the opportunity, we'd have shot him up a lot, but he didn't because he was a coward."
Oh. My. God. Good idea. Tell people that they're cowards, and 'not much of a man' if they don't shoot at the police. Excellent plan. I'm sure that will work out well.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So that's not what he meant. As for not questioning the shooter when he was out of the house, other articles state that the shooter immediately run into the house. So they didn't have time to question him.
Demovictory9
(32,449 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)Another gun-humping liberal voter.
I think that deputy sheriff needs some guidance in public relations. There are things you might say with your buddies and another you say to the press. That said, we all know that those particular niceties wouldnt gave been observed if the killer had been black. Was he?
Demovictory9
(32,449 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)The Ledger Sept. 5, 2021
Four people were killed, an 11-year-old girl was shot and deputies came under fire early Sunday in a neighborhood in North Lakeland.
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said the shootings took place at 4:30 a.m. in two separate houses, near North Socrum Loop Road and Fulton Green Road, less than a half mile north of Lake Gibson High School.
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Meanwhile, authorities on the scene entered one of the homes, where they found an 11-year-old girl shot several times. The girl told deputies there were three dead people in the house. Deputies found a man, woman and infant dead from gunshot wounds. When deputies went to the home behind that one, they found another woman shot to death.
The 11-year-old girl was taken to Tampa General Hospital for treatment. A security guard at the hospital on Sunday afternoon said media were not allowed on the property. Judd said authorities were still searching for another young girl, "about 10 or 11 years old," but there was no evidence that she was on scene.
More: https://www.theledger.com/story/news/crime/2021/09/05/polk-sheriffs-deputies-come-under-fire-north-lakeland/5740624001/
ck4829
(35,045 posts)viva la
(3,286 posts)>Judd concluded the news conference Sunday morning by saying: 'Crazy people with guns are dangerous - good people with guns keep crazy people with guns at bay.>
Uh, you "good people" didn't do that good a job.
And he sure spent a lot of time explaining why they didn't shoot the guy dead. He got all salacious explaining how cool it would have been if Riley had done one threatening thing so they could kill him.
This sheriff's a piece of work.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)It's hard to say how the cops could have done a better job, if the suspect had gotten inside the house and killed people there. Suspect is a former marine so is very well trained in use of weapons. What would you have cops do?
viva la
(3,286 posts)where he killed three people.
I don't know if that's true, that they let him go into the house. But he sounds like he's congratulating the team for a job well done.
I'm sure the facts, whatever they are, will be clearer tomorrow.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Unless you suggest they should have shot him the moment they saw him (without knowing any of the facts) how do you think he could have been stopped?
viva la
(3,286 posts)I'm really more commenting on the sheriff's aggressive and triumphalist rhetoric, like they'd beat him somehow. It didn't fit the occasion, shall we say.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)That's when the shoot out started, and the cop had to retreat.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts).......... .........
Would love to hear some mega-church evangelical's sputtering response to that one...... ......
My logical conclusion in this case is that Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Franklin Graham, et al must all be meth users. This guy uses meth and has a direct line to god. All those preachers speak as if they have that line to god as well, so they must use meth too.
You're welcome for this lesson in religious logic.
RIP to those who lost their lives and may their families somehow find peace.... .. .. ..
KY...... ......
viva la
(3,286 posts)He was a meth head.
There was also a Kansas preacher who used meth in church services.
I guess it inspired religious visions.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)KY..........