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What about this hostage situation (Original Post) doc03 Sep 2021 OP
He claims the Taliban are holding Americans hostage. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #1
I don't watch Fox. Ever. Treefrog Sep 2021 #2
I've been looking for other sources... VarryOn Sep 2021 #3
Btw, he is not a senator. Treefrog Sep 2021 #4
It just came up as news on my phone doc03 Sep 2021 #5
GOP Rep. McCaul says 6 planes with Americans onboard are stuck at Afghanistan airport in ... mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #6
"What will it take to do business today and drive it home?" CurtEastPoint Sep 2021 #12
I wouldn't use the word "hostage" WarGamer Sep 2021 #7
I was afraid something like this would happen. Hope doc03 Sep 2021 #8
This was predictable and probably not politically damaging. WarGamer Sep 2021 #9
Maybe you should give him a call? Treefrog Sep 2021 #10
I have confidence that the President and his team are already on it. WarGamer Sep 2021 #11
Republicans love ME American hostages.... OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #13
But then Poppy's grandiose "Operation Desert Shield/Storm" BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #15
But it was a 12 year run..... OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #16
You could go back before 1963 BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #17
I wonder why they never turned George Bush into a WWII hero, like they did with JFK? OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #19
... BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #21
Exactly. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #24
Name me one American Republican war hero in the past 70 years. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #26
There's no disagreement hardluck Sep 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #31
John McCain could have been released instead he doc03 Sep 2021 #32
This article says four planes Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #14
I saw an article from the AP saying 4 planes. nt Raine Sep 2021 #18
I am not seeing anything about US hostages revmclaren Sep 2021 #22
Yesterday was the first day a plane was able to take off from the airport... kentuck Sep 2021 #27
Republicans Demand Evacuation of Undocumented Aliens from Afghanistan dalton99a Sep 2021 #28
I found this from Reuters dflprincess Sep 2021 #29

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,439 posts)
6. GOP Rep. McCaul says 6 planes with Americans onboard are stuck at Afghanistan airport in ...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:28 PM
Sep 2021
GOP Rep. McCaul says 6 planes with Americans onboard are stuck at Afghanistan airport in 'hostage situation' with Taliban

Connor Perrett 9 hours ago

Six airplanes are stuck at the Mazar-i-Sharif International Airport in northern Afghanistan with Americans on board, unable to take off because they had not received clearance from the Taliban, Rep. Michael McCaul said on Sunday.

McCaul, a Republican from Texas, made the comments during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday" and said Afghan interpreters were also on the planes.

"In fact we have six airplanes at Mazar-i-Sharif airport, six airplanes, with American citizens on them as I speak, also with these interpreters, and the Taliban is holding them hostage for demands right now," McCaul, the top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told Fox News' Chris Wallace.

"State has cleared these flights and the Taliban will not let them leave the airport," he added.

{snip}

CurtEastPoint

(18,643 posts)
12. "What will it take to do business today and drive it home?"
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:38 PM
Sep 2021

Or: "We are so sorry for your loss. Let's go look at caskets, shall we?"

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
9. This was predictable and probably not politically damaging.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:33 PM
Sep 2021

But if AQ or IS-K gets their hands on Americans and hurts them... it'll be bad.

The current situation can be resolved by Biden threatening the Afghan/Taliban Gov't finances...

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
13. Republicans love ME American hostages....
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:38 PM
Sep 2021

that's a big reason why Reagan got elected. Well that and asking the Iranian Revolutionary Guard to hold them until after the election in 1980.

BumRushDaShow

(128,948 posts)
15. But then Poppy's grandiose "Operation Desert Shield/Storm"
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 08:10 PM
Sep 2021

with 500,000 troops doing a "turkey shoot" wasn't enough to get him re-elected.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
16. But it was a 12 year run.....
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 08:21 PM
Sep 2021

Forget Reagan, Bush was driving US foreign policy, with a particular emphasis on ME oil. I sure would be interested in the Bush Family net-worth. - from 1963 to 2004.....Dick Cheney as well.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
19. I wonder why they never turned George Bush into a WWII hero, like they did with JFK?
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 08:39 PM
Sep 2021

Not really, I don't wonder.

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #19)

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
23. Exactly.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 09:19 PM
Sep 2021

And, unlike Bush, JFK's crew gave him credit for their survival. Unfortunately. Bush's crewmates never had a chance. For them to survive, he'd have had to keep the plane flying so they could bail...but that might have meant he would have been killed. Profile in Courage? Maybe not. He was no George McGovern, IMHO.

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #23)

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
25. Name me one American Republican war hero in the past 70 years.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 09:40 PM
Sep 2021

If John McCain is the name, remember 2 things.

(1) He was never Republican enough.

(2) Other than destroying 4 planes and getting captured, I don't think he accomplished much in the hero department. Sucks, though, that Trump agrees with me.

Bob Dole may be the last Republican that sacrificed for this country, IMHO.

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #25)

hardluck

(638 posts)
30. There's no disagreement
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 01:18 AM
Sep 2021

Read the report. Hell, you can watch the video. Why this stupid shit gets repeated here….

Response to hardluck (Reply #30)

doc03

(35,332 posts)
32. John McCain could have been released instead he
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 02:17 PM
Sep 2021

spent years in captivity and torture. He was a hero, even if you disagreed politically.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,965 posts)
14. This article says four planes
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 08:02 PM
Sep 2021
Taliban stop planes of evacuees from leaving but unclear why

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — At least four planes chartered to evacuate several hundred people seeking to escape the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan have been unable to leave the country for days, officials said Sunday, with conflicting accounts emerging about why the flights weren't able to take off as pressure ramps up on the United States to help those left behind to flee.

An Afghan official at the airport in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif said that the would-be passengers were Afghans, many of whom did not have passports or visas, and thus were unable to leave the country. He said they had left the airport while the situation was sorted out.

The top Republican on the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee, however, said that the group included Americans and they were sitting on the planes, but the Taliban were not letting them take off, effectively “holding them hostage." He did not say where that information came from. It was not immediately possible to reconcile the accounts.

The final days of America's 20-year war in Afghanistan were marked by a harrowing airlift at Kabul's airport to evacuate tens of thousands of people — Americans and their allies — who feared what the future would hold, given the Taliban’s history of repression, particularly of women. When the last troops pulled out on Aug. 30, though, many were left behind.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/taliban-resume-flights-press-assault-142849525.html

Thank you for your concern McCall but could you please stand down and let the adults handle this?

revmclaren

(2,521 posts)
22. I am not seeing anything about US hostages
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 09:15 PM
Sep 2021

On any non-right wing media.

Please dont spread right wing propaganda!

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
27. Yesterday was the first day a plane was able to take off from the airport...
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 11:19 PM
Sep 2021

I heard it reported somewhere.

It was to another city in Afghanistan. They had to repair the runway, they said. They are hoping to get the airport up and running soon.

(I will try to find the link)

I had heard nothing about holding Americans "hostage" or even that Americans were on planes ready to fly out?

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
29. I found this from Reuters
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 11:54 PM
Sep 2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2Q70IW

Nearly every sentence or two is a paragragh so what I can post is limited.



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 1,000 people, including dozens of Americans and Afghans holding visas for the United States or other countries, remained stuck in Afghanistan for a fifth day on Sunday while awaiting Taliban clearance for flights out of the country, the New York Times reported....

The senior Republican on the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee, Mike McCaul, told “Fox News Sunday” that six airplanes were stuck at Mazar-i-Sharif airport with Americans and Afghan interpreters on board, unable to take off because they had not received clearance from the Taliban. He said the Taliban were holding passengers “hostage for demands,” but multiple reports disputed McCaul’s statement....

...One person familiar with the evacuation effort told Reuters that it was not correct to characterize the passengers as “hostages.”

The New York Times reported that organizers of evacuation flights in Qatar said the planes in Mazar-i-Sharif had received necessary clearance and were awaiting final Taliban approval.

“The Taliban are not holding the planes hostage,” it quoted Eric Montalvo, a retired U.S. Marines major involved in organizing the flights, as saying.

A spokesperson for the U.S. State Department said it did not have a reliable means to confirm the basic details of charter flights, including the number of U.S. citizens and others aboard, but added: “We will hold the Taliban to its pledge to let people freely depart Afghanistan.”




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