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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 10:51 AM Sep 2021

Bear spray stains on the walls at home helped identify woman as Capitol attack suspect

Perhaps it was the video that Lehigh County resident Kelly McFadden O’Brien livestreamed from the Capitol steps that sealed federal prosecutors’ decision to charge her with participating in the Jan. 6 riot in Washington.“We’re under the Joe fake Biden inaugural steps that he was supposed to be the fake president in,” she said, broadcasting amid the mob. Or maybe it was the string of Facebook posts with selfies she took shortly after. “I am in the front line,” she wrote, adding later: “We’re at the front door.” Later still, she posted: “I’m out. I’m safe. Someone may have trashed a certain speaker of the house’s office. But I will never tell who.”

Dozens of other posts and communications detailed in court filings chart her boasts of her “well-stocked” family armory, her admiration for militant right-wing extremist groups like the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys, and the Three Percenters, and her roller-coaster, postelection emotional journey. In a Nov. 21 post “I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. PATRIOTS UNTIED [sic]”

And if none of that sealed the deal, perhaps it was the orange stains agents found on her walls when they showed up at her Schnecksville home with a search warrant nearly three months later — remnants, her husband told them, from a can of bear or pepper spray that O’Brien took with her to Washington.

It had exploded in her powder room after she returned home.

https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2021/09/what-helped-identify-an-eastern-pa-woman-as-a-capitol-attack-suspect-start-with-her-homes-bear-spray-stained-walls.html

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Bear spray stains on the walls at home helped identify woman as Capitol attack suspect (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 OP
"PATRIOTS UNTIED [sic]" Claire Oh Nette Sep 2021 #1
those Untied Patriots are a scary bunch Chili Sep 2021 #6
I find declaring oneself a "patriot" kind of like declaring oneself "cool". Progressive Jones Sep 2021 #31
This may explain why their Facebook rants are done in their vehicles underpants Sep 2021 #2
It exploded? That's alarming! Rorey Sep 2021 #3
they had, threw out clothes and repainted the closet.... getagrip_already Sep 2021 #12
Some advice... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #16
I had no idea! MontanaMama Sep 2021 #21
And in this heat... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #33
Good advice. KentuckyWoman Sep 2021 #25
A lot of people just don't know... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #34
Thank you so much! Rorey Sep 2021 #28
The trick is to have... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #32
I'm looking at safety cases Rorey Sep 2021 #36
Maybe they were just trying to redecorate that "powder room" sdfernando Sep 2021 #17
With that crowd, they may mean HubertHeaver Sep 2021 #22
Well that shows you how I think! sdfernando Sep 2021 #27
A lot of people call the half bath a powder room. KentuckyWoman Sep 2021 #26
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees." Botany Sep 2021 #4
grant her wish ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #24
These people definitely aren't MENSA candidates. marmar Sep 2021 #5
3%ers must be the multigraincracker Sep 2021 #9
You would be correct.... paleotn Sep 2021 #19
"These people definitely aren't MENSA candidates." You think? Botany Sep 2021 #10
I wonder why she deleted her Facebook account? FakeNoose Sep 2021 #7
I want to see videos of these arrest. Could make for some fun watching. nt Hotler Sep 2021 #8
Vindicta ursus. tanyev Sep 2021 #11
I bet you when most of them answer the knock on their door they think it's Publisher's in2herbs Sep 2021 #13
This stuff never gets old. hydrolastic Sep 2021 #14
"Someone may have trashed a certain speaker of the house's office" gratuitous Sep 2021 #15
letter of clemency onethatcares Sep 2021 #18
LOL llmart Sep 2021 #20
Guess she didn't have a cleaning lady bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #23
She must leave worse odors RainCaster Sep 2021 #29
"We're under the Joe fake Biden inaugural steps that he was supposed to be the fake president in." Grins Sep 2021 #30
Don't want to further alarm you but... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #35

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
31. I find declaring oneself a "patriot" kind of like declaring oneself "cool".
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 02:02 PM
Sep 2021

That's for others to decide.

underpants

(182,798 posts)
2. This may explain why their Facebook rants are done in their vehicles
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 10:57 AM
Sep 2021

I’ve always thought that was hilarious

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
3. It exploded? That's alarming!
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 10:59 AM
Sep 2021

I have several cans of bear spray, in my house and my car.

Also, all these months later and they hadn't cleaned up the exploded bear spray??? They must be horrible slobs.

getagrip_already

(14,744 posts)
12. they had, threw out clothes and repainted the closet....
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 11:26 AM
Sep 2021

But they missed areas. The FBI probably took it apart when the husband told them about it.

I bet the husband is pissed because of who she traveled with.......

"What? We are just friends. So what if we shared hotel rooms!"

2naSalit

(86,596 posts)
16. Some advice...
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:02 PM
Sep 2021

Don't leave bear spray in the car and use a container to keep it in when not accompanying you on a hike. If it blows in your car, it's totaled, period. You cannot get that stuff out of the upholstery. The USFS had to mandate that all bear spray had to be stored in specific containers when being transported because they had lost a good portion of the fleet from bear spray blowing up in their vehicles.

I keep mine in such a container in my house. If the seal goes, I can walk it out to the dumpster and toss the whole thing, no muss no fuss, or the recycle place where they can separate it if need be.

The containers can be made at home. You just need a plastic, gallon-sized jar with a wide opening and a good sealing lid. Line the jug with some rather dense foam padding that allows for the can of spray to be inserted in the center, upside down and some padding under the lid. Or you can buy one from the bear spray maker.

Bear spray itself is pretty stable, it's the seal on the can that can fail. Look at the exp date on each can and decide whether it's still good. That capsaicin burns the seal after a time so consider that.

Best way to dispose of it is find an outfitter store or sporting goods place and see if they have a collection program or you can go out and practice your defense skills in a pretend bear attack until the can is empty then dispose of the can like you would some other chemical of concern.





MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
21. I had no idea!
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 01:01 PM
Sep 2021

Guess I should have. I just read your post to my husband who has a can of bear spray in his vehicle right now.

2naSalit

(86,596 posts)
33. And in this heat...
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 05:30 PM
Sep 2021

That can has a seal that would be suspect in my mind. I hope he takes heed. A container is about $20 and many outfitter places have them along with bear spray. I asked our local shop to carry them and now they can't keep them in stock. Udap has them. I have given a couple away too.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
25. Good advice.
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 01:17 PM
Sep 2021

Our local store warned everyone buying it about special care but like so much, that local place is gone too.

Thanks for the post. A lot of people just don't know ...

2naSalit

(86,596 posts)
34. A lot of people just don't know...
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 05:35 PM
Sep 2021

That is the honest truth. For whatever reasons, a lot of people don't seem to consider their safety when in unfamiliar places. They expect every "park" to be an amusement park, completely sanitized for their convenience.

Which is why I jump on my little soap box at every opportunity, it was my job to educate the public back when I was working, it's important so I am glad to share, still.

I'm glad Rory said something about not knowing what to do.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
28. Thank you so much!
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 01:26 PM
Sep 2021

I just went on a search and found three. I put them in a cat litter tub in the garage, and I'll check out which storage method I think will work best for me.

2naSalit

(86,596 posts)
32. The trick is to have...
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 05:27 PM
Sep 2021

Translucent plastic so you can see whether the seal has blown. The spray itself is orange or red so if you see that on the inside through the plastic, you know it's a flinger, it's contained in the foam and that's all there is to it.



Rorey

(8,445 posts)
36. I'm looking at safety cases
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 06:09 PM
Sep 2021

I didn't really need to have that bear spray in my car right now anyway, but I kind of like having it handy for my house. There have been a few times when I slept with it on my bedside table because of some creepy things that happened.

It'd be nice to have a case that would fit in the backpack I put in my car when I go to the mountains. It's sort of my prepper backpack. I operate on the "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it" mindset. My son laughs at me, but I know he never goes anywhere without at least one firearm in his vehicle, and he also does bodybuilding, so he's a lot better prepared to take care of himself than I am.

So, my next concern is about pepper spray. I have some that look like a tube of lipstick, and I like to have one with me when I go for a walk. I guess I better put that in some sort of case too. I also have some stun guns.

I might be over-prepared.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
17. Maybe they were just trying to redecorate that "powder room"
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:09 PM
Sep 2021

Seriously....who calls their bathroom a powder room these days?

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
27. Well that shows you how I think!
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 01:19 PM
Sep 2021

That thought didn’t even occur to me. I can exploding inside an actual ammunition powder room? Lucky they didn’t blow the whole house up!

Botany

(70,503 posts)
4. "I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 11:00 AM
Sep 2021

How about dying in prison while doing time for criminal assault, trespassing into the Capitol,
and trying to overthrow the government?


Botany

(70,503 posts)
10. "These people definitely aren't MENSA candidates." You think?
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 11:14 AM
Sep 2021

“Trump will still be our president. Trust his plan. He plays 4D chess while they play checkers.”

“I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. PATRIOTS UNTIED [sic]”

“Please disregard/delete any video I previously shared from the capital [sic],” she wrote on Jan. 7. “I make no claim. I shared it only.”

She signed off the conversation with optimism that “everything is happening according to Q plan.”

FakeNoose

(32,638 posts)
7. I wonder why she deleted her Facebook account?
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 11:02 AM
Sep 2021

It doesn't matter because the feds have everything she posted. This is the 55th person from Pennsylvania to be arrested and charged in the January 6th insurrection. Thank you Facebook for making this possible!

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
13. I bet you when most of them answer the knock on their door they think it's Publisher's
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 11:57 AM
Sep 2021

Clearing House but surprise, it's the FBI!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. "Someone may have trashed a certain speaker of the house's office"
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:02 PM
Sep 2021

"But I will never tell who." Uh huh. Watch as Kelly paints herself yellow and sings like a canary to get a lighter sentence.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
18. letter of clemency
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

Yur honer, I am so sorry fer what I didn't do when someone sneaked in to a certain speeker of the hause office. I am riting you to ask for something because the powder room in the jale is not like my powder room at home. Please let me out. Yur BFF Kelly.

llmart

(15,537 posts)
20. LOL
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 12:56 PM
Sep 2021

Thanks for the laugh. I am also laughing that more and more of these idiots are being caught every day. They thought they were oh so clever.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
30. "We're under the Joe fake Biden inaugural steps that he was supposed to be the fake president in."
Mon Sep 6, 2021, 01:56 PM
Sep 2021

On top of all the other fails of spelling and sentence structure, how can that even be English?

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