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Maybe the Texas abortion and voter restriction laws are a good thing... (Original Post) FirefighterJo Sep 2021 OP
Major tactical blunder NJCher Sep 2021 #1
Yep, data points to such ... Oppression of others doesn't motivate turnout uponit7771 Sep 2021 #5
Possibly it will be a rallying point for Democrats Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #2
Nope, ... MAGA Voter oppression doesn't increase turnout (link) uponit7771 Sep 2021 #3
Go back and re-read the article NJCher Sep 2021 #7
I thought the Post was off but suppression does boost black voter turnout so check the article Dream Girl Sep 2021 #10
Woman in the US are as strong of a collective identity as blacks? tia uponit7771 Sep 2021 #11
No, your point does not stand NJCher Sep 2021 #13
Disagree and you didn't answer my question uponit7771 Sep 2021 #14
I'll only answer research with research NJCher Sep 2021 #15
Good luck with that greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #4
Watershed elections only happen with underground earthquake issues bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #6
Your last sentence NJCher Sep 2021 #8
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant... C_U_L8R Sep 2021 #9
Is that you Susan Sarandon? CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #12

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. Possibly it will be a rallying point for Democrats
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:25 AM
Sep 2021

I do believe that Republicans really want the issue much more than they want a fix for it or any other issue.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
3. Nope, ... MAGA Voter oppression doesn't increase turnout (link)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:38 AM
Sep 2021
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/opinions-democrats-can-e2-80-99t-count-on-voters-being-mad-enough-about-suppression-to-overcome-it/ar-AAMHlcr?ocid=BingNewsSearch

The results were dismaying. While learning about youth suppression generally did make people angry, it did not make people more likely to want to vote. (Neither did learning about suppression without an explicitly named target.) Most concerning, information about youth suppression did not even boost voting intentions for young adults themselves — the individuals who stood to lose the most.


Oppression of others doesn't motivate turnout

NJCher

(35,667 posts)
7. Go back and re-read the article
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:53 AM
Sep 2021

It is more about collective identity, voter suppression, and actual voting.

It also devotes a good part of its query to the youth vote, which we all know doesn’t mean much.

Your post might be of interest if the OP had restricted its topic to the youth vote, but the OP does not do this.

You even post an excerpt from the article that refers to the youth vote but your subject heading tries to make it seem like it refers to all voters which it does not.

What you are doing here is misrepresenting the results of a study and for that, you deserve to be called for being intellectually dishonest.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
10. I thought the Post was off but suppression does boost black voter turnout so check the article
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:29 AM
Sep 2021

and only saw mention of youth voter turnout. So year a bit misleading.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
11. Woman in the US are as strong of a collective identity as blacks? tia
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:13 PM
Sep 2021

If the answer is no then my point stands using youth as an example

NJCher

(35,667 posts)
13. No, your point does not stand
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:18 PM
Sep 2021

Do not pretend in any way, shape, or form that you did not mis-read (and I'm being generous with you).

My point does not rest on just women Or just African Americans. It is that you significantly mis-read and misrepresented this research.

Why would you do that? I just don't understand why you would post such research and then mislead others about it?

NJCher

(35,667 posts)
15. I'll only answer research with research
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:37 PM
Sep 2021

your question would require me to do a search of academic journals or at least a Google academic search. I'm not doing any research for you. It is incumbent upon you, who is making such a claim, to do such research.

Even if I did take you bait, the chances are you wouldn't understand it, at least based on what I've seen of your claims about research so far.

If you want to make a claim about women's views of themselves in a collectivist context, you go do the research and then you make the claim.

That's the way it's done.

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
6. Watershed elections only happen with underground earthquake issues
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:32 AM
Sep 2021

Don't get me wrong, I want to believe in your hypothesis. But find me the pulse of the masses yearning to be free. Reagan framed it as such, FDR tapped the geyser itself, to some extent Trump found an inner hatred that burned brightly in his twisted base. Not much is underground anymore.

We have to forge a coalition of pro-choice pandemic-fighting civil rights climate worriers. Thread the needle with those issues and make them yearn and burn in the chest with kick the bastards out fervor. Women might be the common denominator?

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