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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:18 AM Sep 2021

The Way I See It

And of course, I could be wrong.

The goings on in Texas serves two purposes. It is a last-ditch effort for Republicans to dog-whistle the Evangelicals who are at the core of their base; i.e. no matter how lawless, how hypocritical, how corrupt we may appear to be, we are still the party committed to stopping the wholesale murder of the unborn.

The other purpose is to stir-up outrage over draconian laws in hopes of distracting the public from the ongoing investigations into the events of the January 6th insurrection, and instead attempting to focus the public's attention on anything but the complicity of those involved.

The GOP are playing a waiting game, in hopes that they will not be exposed as co-conspirators in the attempt to overthrow our democracy.

But the truth always outs - and it's the truth being outed that Republicans fear the most.







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The Way I See It (Original Post) NanceGreggs Sep 2021 OP
Still waiting for the truth to out gab13by13 Sep 2021 #1
Ain't that the truth. I had forgotten. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #18
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Sep 2021 #2
If the waiting game continues into the next election cycle TheRickles Sep 2021 #3
Two sides of the same coin bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #4
US Government as being the heavy hand forcing abortions. StClone Sep 2021 #13
I think you are giving them too much credit for thinking. multigraincracker Sep 2021 #5
Spot on, as always, niyad Sep 2021 #6
I agree OLDMDDEM Sep 2021 #7
I feel that it is all distraction OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #8
They are stalling, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #9
I am a Taurus. So, I understand. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #21
THis Claire Oh Nette Sep 2021 #16
Well said. nt crickets Sep 2021 #22
It's also a distraction from their new voting laws. Lonestarblue Sep 2021 #10
Right! On all three points! kentuck Sep 2021 #11
K&R 2naSalit Sep 2021 #12
Its a scare tactic and base placation. Jon King Sep 2021 #14
Rep. Chip Roy Snackshack Sep 2021 #15
I agree with your point about chaos, but I think it's going to backfire on them. crickets Sep 2021 #23
It's not a point. Snackshack Sep 2021 #24
By jove. I think you got it! Cozmo Sep 2021 #17
I believe you are correct. I will tell a story of many years ago in a South American country Escurumbele Sep 2021 #19
That sounds totally plausible. Anti-democratic seditionists. Thanks Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #20
If there's room out on that limb for two, I'll join you Nance, because you aren't wrong. 11 Bravo Sep 2021 #25

TheRickles

(2,057 posts)
3. If the waiting game continues into the next election cycle
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:56 AM
Sep 2021

without some tangible results (high-level indictments and convictions), we're in deep trouble.

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
4. Two sides of the same coin
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:10 AM
Sep 2021

Deputizing vigilantes to jail and bankrupt citizens is also an attempt to overthrow democracy. We just need to find a way to emotionally marry, in the public's mind, the vigilante half with the insurrectionist half.

It's readily seen that they're the same root, vigilantes being an effort to legalize insurrectionist impulses.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
13. US Government as being the heavy hand forcing abortions.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 09:32 AM
Sep 2021

"We the righteous, God-fearing Texas Republicans stand against unjust tyranny of baby slaughter." It is a simple narrative that stirs the fear against the Gov. to get armed even more.

multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
5. I think you are giving them too much credit for thinking.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:13 AM
Sep 2021

There is a simple term for what they are doing. They are F**king Nuts. That covers it.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
8. I feel that it is all distraction
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:18 AM
Sep 2021

Because they know they are complicit in what happened on Jan. 6th, and they know the proof is out there. They are in 'scorched earth' mode now because there is no other way to distract.

gab13by13

(21,316 posts)
9. They are stalling,
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:51 AM
Sep 2021

their strategy is to delay and obstruct, and it appears to be working. Example; September 18 rally to be held at the Capitol to support the patriots who tried to overthrow our government.

The select committee needs to issue subpoenas because they will certainly be challenged in court. Once we win a subpoena hopefully the next ones will be easier, but why are we waiting?

Disclaimer; I am not a patient person.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
16. THis
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 10:08 AM
Sep 2021

It's distraction, because it's flatly unconstitutional, and they know it. It's unenforceable, and they know it. The Democrats in power are uncovering GOP complicity in January 6, and they know it. It's red meat and a scare tactic, and, frankly, psychological terrorism on all women, everywhere.

Read up on the laws surrounding organ donation and informed consent. No one can force another person to donate bone marrow or solid organs, or anything else, no matter if it saves the life if a child or a neuroscientist or the next StevenHawking super genius. Even after you are dead, they cannot harvest your organs unless you've given consent.


It's easy to be in favor of potential, imaginary unborn.They make no demands about jobs, food, housing, education, or health care; they cost nothing. Being in favor of non-persons over actual living, breathing, sentient human beings is the height of hypocrisy, and allows them to feel good about themselves without actually doing anything for anyone but themselves.

The GOP isn't about the unborn, but about punishing those born, and those who bear them, for having the audacity to live life without the patriarchal's express permission. The GOP is about punishment and penalty and hardship for anyone not born with dangly bits and a silver spoon in their mouths.

Lonestarblue

(9,978 posts)
10. It's also a distraction from their new voting laws.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:52 AM
Sep 2021

Plus the open carry gun laws that now allow anyone to carry a gun—no license, no training, and I doubt any real background checks.

Many laws were released at the same time, but it is the abortion law that has sucked all the oxygen and left very little coverage of the fact that Texas just declared open season for any idiot to brandish a gun to show what a big man he is and likely kill someone. And they just made voting much more difficult for many people, including lots of minorities. For example, Texas has a countywide system for early voting, meaning that you can vote at any voting site.the new law requires that counties with more than a million population must now use a formula based on registrations to determine the number of voting sites in the county. I remember a story from 2020 of a nurse who finally got to vote when Houston had one day with 24-hour voting. With the Covid crisis, she was working so many hours that the polls were never open when she was off work until that one day. I imagine there are many poor people who work two jobs, going directly from one to the other, that also makes it difficult to vote.

The intentional result of the new law is that the heavily Democratic counties like Harris, Travis, Dallas, Bexar, and El Paso will be allowed fewer voting sites, resulting in longer lines and probably discouraging workers who don’t have much time off work. Counties with a population under a million—the more rural and Republican counties—still follow the old, more relaxed rules that allow them to have adequate voting sites. Even under the old law, I stood in line for more than two hours to vote in 2016 (in Austin) and that was at a local grocery store. Every site was like that for most of every day of early voting. I remember reading that the lines on election day were even longer.

The new voting law has also made life difficult for those who vote by mail, and that will discourage voters—I’m hoping that part discourages Republican voters as well, though they changed the signature matching part to give partisan election workers more opportunity to throw out mail ballots. The old law required a mail ballot signature to be matched to a signature on file that was no more than six years old. The new law allows the use of any signature, and it is the choice of the election workers which file signature to use. Our signatures change over time, and this is any easy way to disqualify mail ballots from Democratic precincts.

The third and possibly really creepy change is for poll watchers. In the past poll watchers could observe, from a short distance, but they could not interfere either with voters or with election workers. The new law allows them to be next to voters and election workers, though they are not allowed to observe a person actually casting a vote. What is new is they, and only they, are allowed to record video of everything. So imagine some Republican poll watchers in Hispanic communities, dressed like Proud Boys in official-looking uniform style clothes, walking along the lines waiting to vote and then targeting certain people to record. Hispanic voters may be less aware of their rights and also less interested in challenging what they might see as authorities. Hispanic people here already are targeted and often followed by police just as black people are in many areas. Recording people in line will have a chilling effect on voting as some people will simply leave and not bother. You can bet that poll watchers in white Republican areas will not be recording anyone.

If we don’t vote Republicans out of office in 2022, the right-wing extremists will just continue turning the state into a hellhole for women and minorities.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
11. Right! On all three points!
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:55 AM
Sep 2021

But, primarily it is about the old reliable "dog whistle" about abortion to appeal to their evangelical base. When all else fails, pull the abortion issue out of the bag.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
14. Its a scare tactic and base placation.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 09:52 AM
Sep 2021

There will never be a case actually brought into civil court, that would expose the law as a sham when attacked from every angle of the legal system.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
15. Rep. Chip Roy
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 10:02 AM
Sep 2021

…was recorded on camera at an event saying flat out. We (the GOP) want 18 months of chaos until midterms in order to make President Biden and the Dems look as bad as possible so they can retake the House and presumably then impeach the President.

So far they are doing a pretty effective job of that.

crickets

(25,963 posts)
23. I agree with your point about chaos, but I think it's going to backfire on them.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 10:21 PM
Sep 2021

They bit off more than they can chew with TX SB 8. The dog has caught the wheel of the car and it's about to roll right over him.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
19. I believe you are correct. I will tell a story of many years ago in a South American country
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 10:30 AM
Sep 2021

and what they did to distract people from the issues. It is hard to believe the story, but it is a fact.

There were ongoing corruption investigation on members of the government, people were focused on what was going on, then suddenly the news of an insect called "Machaca" (the insect exists) came about in the newspapers all over the country. The "Machaca" according to "health officials" would cause death if within 24 hours of the byte people did not have sex...I know it sounds like a lie, but it did happen.

Of course that many people, mostly educated people did not believe it, but nonetheless it became a reason to have fun. People started giving other people envelopes with a clip that was tied to an elastic and the elastic would be turned a few times, the front of the envelope had the symbol of the health department and of course it said "Do Not Open, very sensitive, "Machaca"...when people opened the envelope just a little bit, the clip would turn and make a sound like there was something alive, people would jump and everyone would laugh...people became entertained and soon forgot about what was gong on with the investigations.

republicans are cruel, so they cannot think about things that would amuse the people, they have to create anxiety, frustration, panic because that is their thing, and as Nance points out, they will do it in order to distract, and most probably to get their kicks from their cruelty.

Here is a link, it is in Spanish, but you can Google translate into English:
[link:http://www.guaquira.net/guaquiranuevo/EEGNoticias32.html|

snip
But the popular beliefs about this curious animal do not stop there. In several Neotropical countries,
including Venezuela, many people assure that if a pretty girl were bitten by one of these insects, she has
to ask your boyfriend to make love to you within the next 24 hours, because if you don't
will inevitably die.


11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
25. If there's room out on that limb for two, I'll join you Nance, because you aren't wrong.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 12:10 PM
Sep 2021

Because there is absolutely nothing that the American Taliban won't bastardize, manipulate, try to make a buck off of, or just flat-out lie about.

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