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Goodheart

(5,308 posts)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 11:49 AM Sep 2021

It's not COVID that's killing people, it's hospital protocols

So they say.

I'm seeing this bullshit over and over now.

"Her husband (56, overweight, unvaccinated, diabetic) had been taking Ivermectin but she said,in hindsight, since the dose is based on bodyweight, if they had upped the dose, she believes they may have been able to bypass going into the hospital.

They went in to the hospital to get Oxygen for him because his pulse oximeter reading was 79.

The nurse (whom Dalley calls ‘Nurse Ratchett’) put a mask per hospital policy on her husband, even though he was already struggling to breathe. Dalley said, “No. Don’t do that to him,” so the nurse immediately called security to ‘stand by’ so Dalley would not say anything more to the nurse while she registered him. Dalley said the nurse was not a person you could talk do."

https://rumble.com/vktdpt-our-first-hand-icu-story-what-is-actually-killing-people-in-the-hospital.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=3

Actually, I find this nonsense rather hopeful. You don't trust the hospitals? They're killing you? STAY THE FUCK AWAY.

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It's not COVID that's killing people, it's hospital protocols (Original Post) Goodheart Sep 2021 OP
Oh let them sue! See how fast it's thrown out of court PortTack Sep 2021 #1
It probably won't get to court wryter2000 Sep 2021 #4
Well, let's hope so. And when the good guys prevail, can we extract $10,000 from the losers? calimary Sep 2021 #34
The anti-vaxxers should open their own hospitals, so they can self-direct NCjack Sep 2021 #2
Aren't those called "hospices"? ret5hd Sep 2021 #6
I am a hospice nurse. Please don't insult us Our mucifer Sep 2021 #13
Alas, I see your sense of humor has passed. ret5hd Sep 2021 #17
It's stressful out here mucifer Sep 2021 #36
Some doctors believe in science, not all. LiberalArkie Sep 2021 #22
True. Ours do mucifer Sep 2021 #24
I did not know you were a hospice nurse. MontanaMama Sep 2021 #26
My experience also hibbing Sep 2021 #39
Thank you for your service to the dying. LittleGirl Sep 2021 #38
Morphine et al other scheduled drugs of choice, legally. Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #28
I would suggest the term "morgue". A self-service check yourself in and then out. erronis Sep 2021 #41
Yes! They can open a DIY wing in the parking lot for snowflake right wing nuts to MLAA Sep 2021 #8
Kinda like this SledDriver Sep 2021 #14
hilarious ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #25
I am totally going to plagiarize this for work. It needs a little fine-tuning and updating for Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #48
I second that emotion lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #20
Why was he taking ivermectin for "not COVID" pneumonia? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #3
Right?! KPN Sep 2021 #9
Cuz it tastes like Trump Celerity Sep 2021 #10
DUZY!! leftieNanner Sep 2021 #18
Words of Xtian (catholic) institution? Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #30
I'm Episcopalian leftieNanner Sep 2021 #33
She's so ignorant, she thought that the covid PCR. test scipan Sep 2021 #47
"Nurse Ratched". Aristus Sep 2021 #5
Sadly, they didn't tell him to go to a hospital that doesn't require masks. MineralMan Sep 2021 #7
Take a right, 3 blocks, left, 2 more, arrive at "Typhoid Mary Memorial". lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #21
If he listens to her instead of listening to the doctors Mariana Sep 2021 #46
Officially, it's the coroners who kill people by the millions. unblock Sep 2021 #11
Yeah, defund the coroners! Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #32
Brilliant idea. Now we have to deal with a bunch of really sound sleepers... Girard442 Sep 2021 #12
He's not dead, he's resting. R Merm Sep 2021 #35
Let's close the Hospitals. Sick folks can go to their neighborhood veterinarian. Or Bible thumper. Tommymac Sep 2021 #15
Yup. That's what we do now. AllyCat Sep 2021 #16
They need to understand that the hosiptal... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #19
Hey lady, go to your nearest horse supply store and get hubby a bigger bottle of worm pills. Vinca Sep 2021 #23
COVID comes out with a person's intestinal lining IronLionZion Sep 2021 #31
Maybe they could open Facebook hospitals? MontanaMama Sep 2021 #27
GOP politicians said this in the fight to block Obamacare IronLionZion Sep 2021 #29
Some of us are doomed... Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #40
COVID is the rapture IronLionZion Sep 2021 #44
You want a higher dose? Help yourself, dumbass Marthe48 Sep 2021 #37
If you want to have it your way ... Seinan Sensei Sep 2021 #42
Some "doctor' has a video out right now about that subject. Havent watched it yet oldsoftie Sep 2021 #43
These people should set up their own field hospitals in barns liberal_mama Sep 2021 #45

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
4. It probably won't get to court
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 11:54 AM
Sep 2021

If she can get a lawyer, and that's very hard to do, the case will get thrown out before it gets to court.

calimary

(81,125 posts)
34. Well, let's hope so. And when the good guys prevail, can we extract $10,000 from the losers?
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:59 PM
Sep 2021

PLUS court costs?

Turnabout IS fair play. Especially the way things seem to work, THESE days.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
2. The anti-vaxxers should open their own hospitals, so they can self-direct
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 11:52 AM
Sep 2021

their own and their family's treatments.

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
13. I am a hospice nurse. Please don't insult us Our
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 12:53 PM
Sep 2021

Doctors believe in science

Well not all of our staff does. But our doctors do.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
26. I did not know you were a hospice nurse.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:44 PM
Sep 2021

Thank you for your work. The hospice nurses that assisted both of my parents at the end of their lives were two of the best people I've ever come across my whole life. What you do is important.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
39. My experience also
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:26 PM
Sep 2021

Both of them were angels during one of the most difficult periods in my life.

Peace

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
38. Thank you for your service to the dying.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:25 PM
Sep 2021

My Mother is in hospice care and I have always appreciated their non-religion assistance for end of life care. I’m a contributor when possible.

Backseat Driver

(4,381 posts)
28. Morphine et al other scheduled drugs of choice, legally.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:46 PM
Sep 2021

are so comforting no pain; no upsetting thoughts...heck, if you got the time and are judged competent at some point before, you can choose legally to not eat or drink while your favorite music wafts in the background and your favored kin reads the Bible and you float into unconsciousness. Your ducks can be completely in a row; you and your grieving family can talk to the lawyer, shrink, reverend, and social worker, nurse, aide, volunteer. What a painless and beautiful experience all around...

Not saying this is necessarily a bad thing; but it is a choice when NOTHING(?) more can prolong life or help researchers to learn about whatever kills you and where debilitating pain and suffering will stretch out visitation by the Grim Reaper.

erronis

(15,185 posts)
41. I would suggest the term "morgue". A self-service check yourself in and then out.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:28 PM
Sep 2021

permanently.

Only problem is having enough body sacks and places to store these dewormed maggots.

MLAA

(17,252 posts)
8. Yes! They can open a DIY wing in the parking lot for snowflake right wing nuts to
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 11:56 AM
Sep 2021

manage their loved ones care. It can be managed by a farm supply manager with at least 6 months experience working retail.

Maru Kitteh

(28,322 posts)
48. I am totally going to plagiarize this for work. It needs a little fine-tuning and updating for
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:48 PM
Sep 2021

Covid and social media but other than that . . . . IT'S BLOODY PERFECT.


lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
20. I second that emotion
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:26 PM
Sep 2021

Although I can't imagine such an enterprise lasting long for obvious reasons. This may become a reality soon, as most healthcare corporate overlords are requiring COVID as yet another required vaccine.
There's no reason but this political BS for caregivers to be refusing.
Perhaps they could name the hospital "Typhoid Mary Memorial".

Backseat Driver

(4,381 posts)
30. Words of Xtian (catholic) institution?
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
Sep 2021

Take eat; this is my body...

Take drink; this is my blood...

Plays well to that base.

leftieNanner

(15,067 posts)
33. I'm Episcopalian
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:58 PM
Sep 2021

So I know those words.

Ooh! Ivermectin on a "cracker". That would make for one heck of a eucharist.

scipan

(2,341 posts)
47. She's so ignorant, she thought that the covid PCR. test
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:45 PM
Sep 2021

shows positive for all kinds of viruses if you "rachet it up". I feel sorry for her husband. Luckily, he got well. And no, out in 3 days is common, not the "fastest ever".

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
7. Sadly, they didn't tell him to go to a hospital that doesn't require masks.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 11:56 AM
Sep 2021

They don't do that, because their job is to try to help people survive.

The guy's wife is a typical anti-vaxxer idiot. Her husband will probably die because she's an idiot. Maybe that's OK with her. He's probably an idiot, too, and she doesn't care.

Morons Abound!

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
46. If he listens to her instead of listening to the doctors
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:30 PM
Sep 2021

I think we can safely conclude he's an idiot.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
11. Officially, it's the coroners who kill people by the millions.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 12:04 PM
Sep 2021

I mean, they're not officially dead until the coroner examines the body and fills out the paperwork, right?

Get rid of the coroners and watch the official death rate plummet!

Girard442

(6,066 posts)
12. Brilliant idea. Now we have to deal with a bunch of really sound sleepers...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 12:28 PM
Sep 2021

...with major personal hygiene problems.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
15. Let's close the Hospitals. Sick folks can go to their neighborhood veterinarian. Or Bible thumper.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:21 PM
Sep 2021


Edited to prevent fools from hurting themselves.

AllyCat

(16,152 posts)
16. Yup. That's what we do now.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:21 PM
Sep 2021

We literally have to call security to get people to put masks on. Signs everywhere, staff all masked. They know it coming in. But then they fight. So we call security.

2naSalit

(86,333 posts)
19. They need to understand that the hosiptal...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:25 PM
Sep 2021

Isn't the place for them to go since they already eschew sound medical advice. Spare us your exceptionalism, die at home.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
23. Hey lady, go to your nearest horse supply store and get hubby a bigger bottle of worm pills.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:30 PM
Sep 2021

Stay away from hospitals so people who have been vaccinated can have a bed if they happen to break a leg.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
27. Maybe they could open Facebook hospitals?
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:45 PM
Sep 2021

Then they could get and use all the free internet advice possible.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
29. GOP politicians said this in the fight to block Obamacare
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:53 PM
Sep 2021

saying that hospitals kill people so people shouldn't go to hospitals. Somehow people would be healthier without health insurance or health care. It was pretty stupid.

Backseat Driver

(4,381 posts)
40. Some of us are doomed...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:27 PM
Sep 2021

cuz we promised to "obey" politically installed GOP RW morons and stayed too long at the fair as their constant policies discriminated, indeed, created their portion of the "have nots" and never wills. Now, some are STILL dealing with wrong-headedness and "fatal flaws" of embedded racism, misogyny, the losers who died for democracy , the ones who spurned all but Biblical education; those born into and unluckily acquired perpetual physical and mental "ignorance" known as disabilities...so we can learn to be ever more compassionate(?) and sharing of our wealth(?). Not feeling the worthiness of my "sacrifices" either.

Tell me now how to continue to "fight back" for America's life's sake because I just used up at least one year of that time...in the solitary confinement of CoVid social distancing - all I got left is a single vote left in the fight...

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
44. COVID is the rapture
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

If you're still alive, then you are still in the fight. There may be fewer voters on the other side after this.

Then register people to vote and encourage them to vote for progressive policies and candidates. It's already making a difference with ending America's longest war, providing COVID stimulus and vaccines, infrastructure, and so much more. We still need to fight the good fight for voting rights, choice, and lots of other important issues.

Marthe48

(16,905 posts)
37. You want a higher dose? Help yourself, dumbass
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:21 PM
Sep 2021

Put your higher dose right up your tailpipe and stay away from real professionals trying to do a real job.

And get your family vaccinated so they don't infect other people.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
43. Some "doctor' has a video out right now about that subject. Havent watched it yet
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:43 PM
Sep 2021

But from the person who sent it to me, I would bet big money on total BULLSHIT

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
45. These people should set up their own field hospitals in barns
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:26 PM
Sep 2021

They can take turns squirting the horse dewormer in each other's mouths.

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