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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:14 PM Sep 2021

New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some Individuals

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/07/1033677208/new-studies-find-evidence-of-superhuman-immunity-to-covid-19-in-some-individuals

Some scientists have called it "superhuman immunity" or "bulletproof." But immunologist Shane Crotty prefers "hybrid immunity."

"Overall, hybrid immunity to SARS-CoV-2 appears to be impressively potent," Crotty wrote in commentary in Science back in June.

No matter what you call it, this type of immunity offers much needed good news in what seems like an endless array of bad news regarding COVID-19.

Over the past several months, a series of studies has found that some people mount an extraordinarily powerful immune response against SARS-CoV-2. Their bodies produce very high levels of antibodies, but they also make antibodies with great flexibility — likely capable of fighting off the variants of coronavirus circulating in the world but also likely effective against variants that may emerge in the future.
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New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some Individuals (Original Post) steve2470 Sep 2021 OP
What percentage of people have this immunity? brush Sep 2021 #1
Everyone who wears a Red MAGA hat. House of Roberts Sep 2021 #4
According to the article... Hugin Sep 2021 #5
Thanks. Agreed on the sciency sounding stuff. brush Sep 2021 #10
I am perfectly happy with my run-of-the-mill vaccinated immunity. Hugin Sep 2021 #16
It's really strange in the country now with the whole anti-masks... brush Sep 2021 #19
"All he had to do was model masking early on and covid... 3catwoman3 Sep 2021 #23
God, you're so right. The hucksters in that admin sure missed that one... brush Sep 2021 #27
That potentially could be millions and millions of people across the world. LonePirate Sep 2021 #12
I think they are suggesting that actually getting Covid NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #13
Me too, Hugin. ❤ littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #29
Hopefully 80% dem 5% thugs /nt dickthegrouch Sep 2021 #2
+💯 live love laugh Sep 2021 #40
While I welcome this discovery, FalloutShelter Sep 2021 #3
If you read the article the select are people who have been vaccinated. Hugin Sep 2021 #6
Exactly... FalloutShelter Sep 2021 #11
Yep, good call IMHO. Hugin Sep 2021 #17
They read? littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #30
The publicity needs to focus on "hybrid" rather than "superhuman." Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #8
And time travel back to 2020 to pick up the original strain... Hugin Sep 2021 #9
Very interesting. Perhaps when this is all said and done with (COVID, SARS, etc.), new medical... SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #7
It would be interesting to study their diets... kentuck Sep 2021 #14
SuperHuman alien hybrids? Or Reptilian imposters among us? I suspect the latter Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #15
They are the ones who would carry on if this were a much nastier virus. roamer65 Sep 2021 #18
Lots of Republicans believe they have supernatural immunity IronLionZion Sep 2021 #20
Almost all Covidiots think they have immunity from Covid already liberal_mama Sep 2021 #21
TMI (too much information) ARPad95 Sep 2021 #22
Shocking ahlnord Sep 2021 #24
I hope liberal mama meant while his wife was contagious ARPad95 Sep 2021 #28
Sounds like she may be a prisoner in her own home. littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #31
Thanks for etting me know you like my intro. I just came up with it yesterday. ARPad95 Sep 2021 #38
Well done! ❤ littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #39
Sex multiple times a day while she wasn't feeling well? 3catwoman3 Sep 2021 #25
Yea, he sure sounds lovely. LisaL Sep 2021 #32
I feel like I should elaborate more, but will try not to be too graphic liberal_mama Sep 2021 #34
Are you sure your husband and his brother were raised by the same parents? ARPad95 Sep 2021 #37
Many people are asymptomatic or have minimal symptoms Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #35
Every known disease will have a certain number of persons who exhibit innate immunity Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #26
It's not innate. LisaL Sep 2021 #33
Innate immunities exist among some to any disease. Any anomaly that confers Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #36
So can they make a vaccine that will produce this combo of antibodies? Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #41

Hugin

(33,053 posts)
5. According to the article...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:32 PM
Sep 2021

There is no estimate of the percentage of the total population, but, the characteristic of the hybrid is a person who contracted the original strain in 2020 and WHO HAVE RECIEVED THE VACCINE.

So, does being vaccinated have more to do with the "superhuman" immunity than anything else? Probably.

I despise sciency sounding non science articles such as this.

brush

(53,743 posts)
10. Thanks. Agreed on the sciency sounding stuff.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:44 PM
Sep 2021

I'll pass on having the so-called super immunity since I'd have to have had covid first to get there.

Hugin

(33,053 posts)
16. I am perfectly happy with my run-of-the-mill vaccinated immunity.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:54 PM
Sep 2021

I suppose its possible the intent of the article is to encourage the, "Eh, I already had it, so there's no need to get vaccinated" crowd to get vaccinated.

Anecdotal, but, last Spring I talked with someone who had contracted a symptomatic case in 2020 and couldn't wait to get vaccinated. In fact, somehow, he managed to get it before me.

So, I guess he's 'super' now. Which is fine by me and more power to him.

brush

(53,743 posts)
19. It's really strange in the country now with the whole anti-masks...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:39 PM
Sep 2021

anti-vaxx crowd rejecting science and the vaccines. Makes no sense that they listen to stupid trump on masking. All he had to do was model masking early on and covid could've been beaten back, at least the earlier variants.

And the anti-mask foolishness has morphed into anti-vaxx dumbness, even though magats and everyone else in the nation has been vaccinated many times in life to start school, to get flu shots, to travel overseas. It's just mass psychosis among the trumpers and I blame him and the disinformation industry his chaotic and crooked administration fostered.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting and will be among the first in line to get my booster shot when they become available.

3catwoman3

(23,949 posts)
23. "All he had to do was model masking early on and covid...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:10 PM
Sep 2021

could've been beaten back, at least the earlier variants."

I said this very thing just a couple of minutes ago in a different thread. He could even have made money off it, selling red MAGA masks with his face, or name, or some slogan on them - "KEEP AMERICA SAFE _MASK UP!"

His idiot followers would have bought them by the truckload.

brush

(53,743 posts)
27. God, you're so right. The hucksters in that admin sure missed that one...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:20 PM
Sep 2021

as they were always on the make to grift money from the magats. Seems like a no-brainer that they would've thought of it.

We're in agreement early on masking would've worked, but trump's failure to mask might have come down to a thing as simple as trump didn't want a mask to mess up his orange make-up and ridiculous comb-over.

NH Ethylene

(30,803 posts)
13. I think they are suggesting that actually getting Covid
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:53 PM
Sep 2021

helps produce the resilient feature of the hybrid. If this turns out to be true, maybe in addition to the vaccines we could be subjected to a mild case of Covid and thereby control this disease in the future.

FalloutShelter

(11,833 posts)
3. While I welcome this discovery,
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:27 PM
Sep 2021

I think if this study is overplayed it will hurt the case for vaccines as the Covidiots already think they are superhuman and will use this info to bolster their case that they do not need masks or vax.

Hugin

(33,053 posts)
6. If you read the article the select are people who have been vaccinated.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

I think you are correct about how it will play for the MAGAts.

They won't read down that far.

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
8. The publicity needs to focus on "hybrid" rather than "superhuman."
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:39 PM
Sep 2021

Those who have this immunity BOTH contracted COVID AND were vaccinated.

So if they want this characteristic, they have to get vaccinated.

Hugin

(33,053 posts)
9. And time travel back to 2020 to pick up the original strain...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:42 PM
Sep 2021

However, I really believe most of the immunity results these scientists are finding is because of the vaccines.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
7. Very interesting. Perhaps when this is all said and done with (COVID, SARS, etc.), new medical...
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

procedures, methods, and/or knowledge gained from extensive studies undertaken on these viruses, etc., will vastly expand human knowledge and lead to miracles not yet anticipated or known yet. One thing I'm aware of is that the high demand for ventilators led to a method implemented where one ventilator can help multiple patients, a much needed improvement (this was, seems like a year or so ago).

As in the past, when severe conditions imperiled the human condition, new medicines, new techniques on growing crops, better methods of using limited resources, etc. all led to an overall improvement of the human condition.

Those still stuck in the past on medical advice/treatment (using horse medicine) deserve what they are putting into their bodies themselves.

They will never join the rest of the human spirit in forging a path towards a better future for all, since they are selfish, into themselves and no one else. Me me me!



IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
20. Lots of Republicans believe they have supernatural immunity
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:29 PM
Sep 2021

because they had a bad cold or flu way back in early 2020 before they knew what COVID was and are convinced they had COVID. So some of them are trying to get infected on purpose now.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
21. Almost all Covidiots think they have immunity from Covid already
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:42 PM
Sep 2021

My brother-in-law told me he's totally immune from Covid and maybe he is. His wife had Covid last December and he said he took no precautions, slept in the same bed with her, and they had sex multiple times a day, the whole time she was sick. He says he was never sick and took 3 Covid tests, all negative. This is why a lot of people don't fear Covid, especially if they haven't caught it after all this time. Of course, he refuses to get vaccinated.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
22. TMI (too much information)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:53 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:05 PM - Edit history (1)

he said he took no precautions, slept in the same bed with her, and they had sex multiple times a day, the whole time she was sick.


You must be at the point where it doesn't phase you in the least what comes out of your b-i-l's mouth, but I would close my eyes, plug my ears and sing "la, la, la" if I heard this directly from an in-law like him.


ahlnord

(91 posts)
24. Shocking
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:16 PM
Sep 2021

If I were sick with a cold, let alone Covid, I would not want to have sex. If it is true that your brother-in-law had sex with his Covid-stricken wife multiple times a day, he is a shockingly abusive man!

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
28. I hope liberal mama meant while his wife was contagious
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:13 PM
Sep 2021

That's how I interpreted it because, otherwise, he's one very sick (in the head) man to do that and then brag about it.

littlemissmartypants

(22,589 posts)
31. Sounds like she may be a prisoner in her own home.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:17 PM
Sep 2021

And he's an insufferable braggart and lies like a dog.

I like your intro, btw.

3catwoman3

(23,949 posts)
25. Sex multiple times a day while she wasn't feeling well?
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:16 PM
Sep 2021

What a thoughtful guy -

Are you sure he's not bullshitting you?

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
34. I feel like I should elaborate more, but will try not to be too graphic
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:55 PM
Sep 2021

My in-laws live in the South, about 1200 miles away from my house in New York. Sadly, they are both very deranged Trumpers. They are both alcoholics and are high on drugs most of the time. My brother-in-law has been in prison multiple times, twice for attempted murder. Once for trying to shoot his wife's brother and another time for trying to run a police officer over with his car.

I have been with my husband for 30 years so I've had to deal with a lot of horrors over the years where my brother-in-law is concerned. In fact, the very first time I met him he was in handcuffs.

In Feburary 2021, they decided to make a surprise trip up to visit us. Unfortunately, I had forgotten to lock the front door after I got the mail, and I saw the front door burst open and they both run into my house without masks. I immediately got a mask and made them go outside.

They told me their covid story in my driveway. I was so shocked and disgusted that I didn't even know what to say.

When he told me that he had been intimate with her several times a day while she was sick with Covid, she laughed and acted like it was the greatest thing in the world. Then they told me that they thought Covid was a democratic hoax (even though she actually had symptomatic Covid and tested positive) to cause Trump to lose the election. They said they weren't getting the vaccine. Then they started ranting about socialism and how Trump was going to be president again in a few months.

I couldn't take it anymore and I lost it. The insanity was too much and I screamed at my brother-in-law, "I'm a socialist! Your brother is a socialist! We hate Trump!"

So then they got mad and left. My husband met them later at their hotel to visit with them, but of course I didn't go. They haven't spoken to me since, but when the pandemic ends and family holiday dinners resume, it's probably going to be pretty awkward. Normally I just try to ignore their bad behavior for the sake of family peace, but I lost control of myself.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
37. Are you sure your husband and his brother were raised by the same parents?
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 12:25 AM
Sep 2021

You don't have to resume any sort of relationship with them after the pandemic ends if he makes you this upset. If your husband wants to, then that's his choice. I don't get why he'd want to though. Is the rest of the family so afraid to "offend" him that his presence is allowed at family gatherings? Family peace is highly overrated if it means kowtowing to that miscreant wacko.

BTW, my husband's brother is not as off the psycho charts, but he definitely pushed the boundaries too far with us and he's out of our lives for good. It helped that his house 2 - 3 miles away from us was foreclosed on so he had to move. We also got rid of our landline phone. Planned to anyway, but his antics sped up the process.

This is what real peace feels like. Hope you will have it, too. It's your choice and you have the right to make it without anyone guilting you into keeping the peace.



 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
35. Many people are asymptomatic or have minimal symptoms
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 06:59 PM
Sep 2021

The story is plausible w/o it having to be some abusive situation, just saying.

Maru Kitteh

(28,317 posts)
26. Every known disease will have a certain number of persons who exhibit innate immunity
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 04:20 PM
Sep 2021

so this is not a surprise. It would be of greater interest if none were found.





Maru Kitteh

(28,317 posts)
36. Innate immunities exist among some to any disease. Any anomaly that confers
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 07:26 PM
Sep 2021

an advantage over others (and there are always some in any given population) allow that population to continue forward. It's how the contest of life continues. It's how both animals and microbes progress.

This is my point.


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