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rurallib

(62,387 posts)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:37 PM Sep 2021

Question: Can I ask a health care provider (dental student) if they are vaccinated?

The dental school receptionist just told me that it was against HIPPA.

I know there has been much discussion on this here before. I have always been confused by what I can and can't ask.

And then if I get an unvaccinated dentist what do I do?

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Question: Can I ask a health care provider (dental student) if they are vaccinated? (Original Post) rurallib Sep 2021 OP
You MAY ask any person if they are vaccinated. Your health care provider spooky3 Sep 2021 #1
You can ask. They just don't have to answer. Siwsan Sep 2021 #2
Right - no answer means they are unvaccinated. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #17
An individual can be asked. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #3
Exactly JohnSJ Sep 2021 #15
That receptionist does not understand what HIPAA is, apparently. YES YOU CAN ASK. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #4
That's what I've been doing! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #7
Thanks for the link. A straightforward, succinct explanation of what HIPAA is and what it isn't. . . Journeyman Sep 2021 #11
It's their choice if they want to share that info with you. You can ask. It has nothing to do with mucifer Sep 2021 #5
Kinda hard to go for dental treatment with a mask over your mouth. boston bean Sep 2021 #8
Yes you are correct. I wasn't thinking. Oy vey! Yes, best to have a dentist who believes in mucifer Sep 2021 #14
I got all my teeth stuff in June. Knowing I might not make it back due to covid increasing. boston bean Sep 2021 #16
Vaccinated people are LESS likely to carry the virus, not more. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #18
you can ask anyone if they are vaccinated bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #6
Bullshit, you can ask anyone Effete Snob Sep 2021 #9
HIPAA restricts third parties with access to information from giving it out without authorization. forgotmylogin Sep 2021 #10
I disagree with your last sentence. marybourg Sep 2021 #13
You can ask anyone about their medical condition Cicada Sep 2021 #12
It's not against HIPAA to ask. If the dental school doesn't understand HIPAA, stay away. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #19
HIPAA. Treefrog Sep 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Sep 2021 #21
+1 LuckyCharms Sep 2021 #23
Yes. You can ask anyone whatever you want to in regard to the vax. LuckyCharms Sep 2021 #22
You can also ask how much PPE they wear when working on patients. tanyev Sep 2021 #24
You can ask and you should insist. Their citing HIPPA is pure bullshit. Hekate Sep 2021 #25
Thank you all very much. What you all said is pretty much what I thought rurallib Sep 2021 #26

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
1. You MAY ask any person if they are vaccinated. Your health care provider
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:39 PM
Sep 2021

cannot reveal your medical info to a third party without your permission.

I’m not a lawyer.

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
2. You can ask. They just don't have to answer.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:40 PM
Sep 2021

It's not as if you are DEMANDING the information.

But, if they won't answer, that likely means they are not vaccinated.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Right - no answer means they are unvaccinated.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:27 PM
Sep 2021

Run the other way.

By the way, worst dental disaster of my life was trusting dental students to do a root canal. It took many weeks of horribly painful procedures; I lost the tooth a few months later.

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
4. That receptionist does not understand what HIPAA is, apparently. YES YOU CAN ASK.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:42 PM
Sep 2021
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/does-hipaa-prohibit-questions-about-vaccination-202108192575
Do her a favor and print this out for her.

And ask freely. If the answer is no or a refusal to tell, you, I'd suggest your next words to be: GOODBYE

Journeyman

(15,026 posts)
11. Thanks for the link. A straightforward, succinct explanation of what HIPAA is and what it isn't. . .
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:59 PM
Sep 2021

Good to know. Good to share.

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
5. It's their choice if they want to share that info with you. You can ask. It has nothing to do with
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:43 PM
Sep 2021

HIPPA unless you are asking them about someone else. But, if you ask the person directly they can tell you or they can tell you to eff off.

Just remember vaccinated people often carry the delta virus so you are not protected just because your health care provider is vaccinated. If you both wear a mask you should be good.

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
14. Yes you are correct. I wasn't thinking. Oy vey! Yes, best to have a dentist who believes in
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:14 PM
Sep 2021

science. But, still they can carry it if they are vaccinated. They do say the mask protects others. My dentist was double masking before she was able to get the vaccine. She probably still is. Oy I need to make an appointment.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
16. I got all my teeth stuff in June. Knowing I might not make it back due to covid increasing.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:27 PM
Sep 2021

Hopefully won’t need again soon.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Vaccinated people are LESS likely to carry the virus, not more.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:30 PM
Sep 2021

Please don't imply otherwise. Vaccinated people, of course, tend to be more careful in general. While, yes, less likely to exhibit symptoms, we are also more likely to recover faster and shed virus for a shorter time.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. Bullshit, you can ask anyone
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:56 PM
Sep 2021

And if they don't want to answer, then you can tell them you are taking your business elsewhere.

You can ask anyone anything you like. You have a First Amendment right to ask anyone, anything, anytime. In general, they have the right to tell you to go fuck yourself. But if they want your business, they'll answer your question.

forgotmylogin

(7,521 posts)
10. HIPAA restricts third parties with access to information from giving it out without authorization.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 02:57 PM
Sep 2021

It does not prevent anyone from asking the question. If you were asking a third-party health care provider about someone else's vaccination status, that would likely be prevented by HIPAA. Asking the individual or giving out your own info is not prohibited.

It's not against HIPAA for the receptionist to tell you whether she herself is vaccinated, or for you to ask. It is up to her whether she discloses it though. She presumably could not tell you the status of others (like the dentist) though.

marybourg

(12,601 posts)
13. I disagree with your last sentence.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:12 PM
Sep 2021

The receptionist is neither the dentist’s health care provider, nor her insurer, therefore HIPAA is irrelevant

If the dentist wants people to know she’s vaccinated, she’ll tell the receptionist to tell the patients so. If the dentist doesn’t want her patients to know whether or not she’s vaccinated, she’ll tell the receptionist not to tell. The patients can then draw his own conclusion and act accordingly.

I just, in the last hour, went through this with my dentist’s receptionist. (The dentist is vaxxed. One hygienist is not. I insisted on the vaxxed one)

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
12. You can ask anyone about their medical condition
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 03:04 PM
Sep 2021

They have a right not to answer, but nothing writing in asking.

Response to rurallib (Original post)

tanyev

(42,523 posts)
24. You can also ask how much PPE they wear when working on patients.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:19 PM
Sep 2021

I don’t know if they were vaccinated yet at my appt 6 months ago—I wasn’t—but I felt very secure because they had on smocks, gloves, N95s and shields. I was a little surprised at my appt a couple weeks ago that that had been reduced to gloves and a surgical mask, but the hygienist told me that was the current recommendation from whatever their oversight board is called, and that she was vaccinated. The dentist did have an N95 on when she came to check on me at the end of the appt.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
25. You can ask and you should insist. Their citing HIPPA is pure bullshit.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

Their refusal to answer is an answer.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
26. Thank you all very much. What you all said is pretty much what I thought
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:38 PM
Sep 2021

I doubt that a specific student has been assigned yet. I will wait until closer to the appointment time and call the school for information on my specific dentist.

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