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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:38 PM Sep 2021

Abbott said Texas will 'eliminate all rapists from the streets' so women don't have to worry about

the new antiabortion law having no exception for rape

Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said in a press conference on Tuesday that the state's new abortion law would not force a rape victim to carry their assailant's child to term. To achieve this, the governor pledged to "eliminate all rapists" in Texas, the local NBC affiliate KXAN reported.

"Let's make something very clear: Rape is a crime," Abbott said while signing a major GOP election-reform bill. "And Texas will work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets."

He added: "So goal No. 1 in the state of Texas is to eliminate rape so that no woman, no person, will be a victim of it." The governor also said Texas had numerous organizations that support rape victims.

The new law, which went into effect on September 1, prohibits people in Texas from having an abortion after a fetal "heartbeat" can be detected on an ultrasound. Doctors told NPR the term "fetal heartbeat" was misleading because it refers to electrical activity, rather than the opening and closing of the heart's valves. The law allows no exceptions for rape or incest.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-abbott-said-texas-eliminate-195007397.html

How? Is he going to require all Texas men be full eunuchs?
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Abbott said Texas will 'eliminate all rapists from the streets' so women don't have to worry about (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Cute. He says this with no plan Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #1
Exactly! It's just words, nothing else. If it were so easy, why didn't he do this before? renate Sep 2021 #28
He can't. And he knows he can't. It's all purely political bullshit. TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #2
Rapes typically don't occur "on the streets." spooky3 Sep 2021 #3
"rapists on the street" are racial code words DBoon Sep 2021 #6
DING! Exactly underpants Sep 2021 #22
"pure" Texas women don't have sociopathic boyfriends or creepy relatives DBoon Sep 2021 #25
I wonder why he waited until now. Did he not realize rape was a crime before? ( n/t ) Make7 Sep 2021 #4
funny little man... markie Sep 2021 #5
How is that supposed to work? Ocelot II Sep 2021 #7
This guy is dense. lpbk2713 Sep 2021 #8
No change dslyahoo Sep 2021 #9
Next law, burkas and chastity belts n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2021 #10
In 2019 Texass led the nation in forcible rapes CanonRay Sep 2021 #11
Paging Bill Cosby ... FakeNoose Sep 2021 #12
Why don't they just remove them... orwell Sep 2021 #13
This literally sounds like satire obamanut2012 Sep 2021 #14
Abbott wouldn't even pay to have old rape kits processed in TX. BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #15
And how does he plan to 'eliminate all rapists from homes'? nt dflprincess Sep 2021 #16
How many rape test kits are still backlogged in Texas? csziggy Sep 2021 #17
Church Lady Voice: Well, aren't you SPECIAL. Boomerproud Sep 2021 #29
Can he start by cutting his own nuts off! madinmaryland Sep 2021 #18
how will they know a rapist before they rape quaker bill Sep 2021 #19
They have a lot of work to do bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #20
This is from the borowitz report right.... PortTack Sep 2021 #21
They're not this stupid. They just don't care. Oneironaut Sep 2021 #23
So Trump can't go to Texas? underpants Sep 2021 #24
Greg Abbott is an idiot LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #26
Gee, I wonder why no one else thought of that? gldstwmn Sep 2021 #27
Will? Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #30

renate

(13,776 posts)
28. Exactly! It's just words, nothing else. If it were so easy, why didn't he do this before?
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 02:51 AM
Sep 2021

It's so absolutely insulting, everything about this is so deeply insulting. Did they really think that women are morons who would be all "woo hoo, no more rapes from now on, Greg Abbott is going to keep us safe, yay for our pal Greg!" Did they really think we wouldn't wonder why, if this were remotely feasible in the real world that regular people live in, he simply hadn't bothered before? Can you imagine the meeting where this talking point was decided upon and approved? Honestly, the rank stupidity of these politicians is just sad and pathetic and the people who fall for their hollow words are sad and pathetic.

Also. I really believe that these absolute morons couldn't even be arsed to get one single medical professional's ten-second input on what a 6-week gestation actually means. I think they believe that a woman is raped, the pregnancy test is positive immediately, and then she has a leisurely 6 weeks to decide.

spooky3

(34,405 posts)
3. Rapes typically don't occur "on the streets."
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

Rapists are often boyfriends, family friends, pillars of the community, etc.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
25. "pure" Texas women don't have sociopathic boyfriends or creepy relatives
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 10:48 PM
Sep 2021

No, it's one of those "others" jumping out of dark alleys and assaulting them, to retreat back into the darkness

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
7. How is that supposed to work?
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:52 PM
Sep 2021

You could argue reasonably that a man isn't a rapist until he actually rapes somebody. He might be a potential rapist because he thinks about raping somebody, or he's been a groper or other sort of sex pest, but technically he isn't a rapist until he really does it. Abbot said, "Texas will work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets." Fine. They'll arrest and prosecute the rapists and get them off the streets - after they've become rapists by raping someone. I guess potential rapists will get one free rape in order to become an actual arrestable rapist, and of course his victim could have become pregnant as a result of his one free rape, but she can't get an abortion.

(And what about all the other reasons for needing an abortion?)

dslyahoo

(55 posts)
9. No change
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 08:57 PM
Sep 2021

Being a T follower, Gov Abbott is probably referring to the same rw trope that calls out “drug dealers, criminals, and rapists” when he says get them off the streets. The people that really should be arrested, won’t be. Same as now.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
15. Abbott wouldn't even pay to have old rape kits processed in TX.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 09:11 PM
Sep 2021

Some sort of financial assistance was started by a 3rd party so that the kits would finally start getting processed. I saw it on CNN or MSNBC earlier.

As usual, Abbott is all talk on the concern for rape victims.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
17. How many rape test kits are still backlogged in Texas?
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 09:17 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe if they'd tested them all in a timely fashion, there would be fewer rapes in Texas (and across the country). Even Texas Republicans know this is a problem:

Cornyn Op-Ed: Texas Has the Tools to End the Rape Kit Backlog. Let’s Use Them.
In: All News Posted 02/02/2021
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WASHINGTON —U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) authored the following op-ed in the Dallas Morning News highlighting three laws he has authored to deliver federal tools to help end Texas’ rape kit backlog:

Texas Has the Tools to End the Rape Kit Backlog. Let’s Use Them.
Senator John Cornyn
Dallas Morning News
February 2, 2021
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2021/02/02/sen-cornyn-texas-has-the-tools-to-end-the-rape-kit-backlog-lets-use-them/

6,108.

That’s the number of untested rape kits in Texas, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety, and more than 1,000 of them sit on lab shelves in Dallas.

Each kit holds unique DNA evidence that could help put a rapist behind bars and provide closure for survivors. But every day that a kit doesn’t get tested, that evidence goes nowhere, and victims go another day without justice.

The rape kits collecting dust in Texas labs represent unidentified criminals that could be named and prosecuted, even halting repeat rapists. Each of these kits tells a horrific story, and the longer it sits idle on a shelf, that story worsens.

To better understand the burden rape victims carry, I visited The Gatehouse in Grapevine, a living community for women fleeing many types of crises, including rape and sexual assault. I toured the facility and learned from its leadership and law enforcement about local issues of sexual violence and how seeking justice can play an important role in a survivor’s recovery. Without question, the memories that have most stayed with me from that day are the stories two brave North Texas rape survivors shared with me there.

One of those survivors is Lavinia Masters. At 13 years old, Masters was brutally raped at knifepoint in her own home. What’s worse, the evidence that could have put her attacker in jail within days was left untouched for more than 20 years, allowing the serial rapist to abuse even more women. By the time authorities found a DNA match, the statute of limitations on her case had expired and she couldn’t seek justice. Her attacker roamed free.

It’s the kind of story that makes your blood boil, and unfortunately, it’s all too common.

Throughout my time in the U.S. Senate, I’ve fought to deliver justice for survivors and ensure the system doesn’t fail more courageous people as it did Masters. I’m proud to say three laws I’ve authored for this purpose are already working to eliminate Texas’ rape kit backlog.

Before we can eliminate a backlog, we need to have a good understanding of how big it is. That’s why I led the Sexual Assault Forensic Evidence Reporting Act, or SAFER Act, which has enabled state and local entities to take stock of their rape kit backlogs. The SAFER Act increased by 35% the federal resources that state and local law enforcement agencies may use to audit their rape kit backlogs. The results are staggering: SAFER grants have uncovered tens of thousands of untested kits — including kits in Texas — that could now help to pull a criminal off the streets.

Then you need the resources to start testing the evidence lining lab shelves. That’s where the Debbie Smith Act comes in. Like Texas’ Lavinia Masters Act, this legislation is named for another courageous survivor, and it provides federal funds to state and local law enforcement agencies to complete forensic analyses of crime scenes and untested rape kits. Just last year, this brought $6.9 million to Texas for rape kit testing, and $1.4 million for North Texas alone.

The final, critical step is justice, putting attackers behind bars and providing closure for survivors. The Justice Served Act provides federal resources to prosecutors across the country for crimes solved by DNA testing.

The system failed Masters and too many survivors like her, and I’m proud to have led these bills which have helped Texas reduce its rape kit backlog by 80% in just eight years.

But Masters’ story may be familiar to you, too. Or perhaps you know another one of the 6,108 Texas survivors whose DNA kit currently sits on a shelf. We know those kits hold more than DNA. They bottle up the victim’s uncertainty, anguish and fear until a match allows him or her to seek justice.

As long as rape kits sit untested, authorities are failing the victims and communities we’ve sworn to protect. It’s up to us to ensure the justice system works for everyone. And at the federal level, I’ll use every tool in my box to empower Texas law enforcement to test every single one of the 6,108 rape kits left.

https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/content/news/cornyn-op-ed-texas-has-tools-end-rape-kit-backlog-let%E2%80%99s-use-them

Boomerproud

(7,940 posts)
29. Church Lady Voice: Well, aren't you SPECIAL.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 05:09 AM
Sep 2021

Spare me Cornyn. Half of that OpEd was patting yourself on the back for doing something that should have been done 20 years ago

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
19. how will they know a rapist before they rape
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 09:22 PM
Sep 2021

if you cannot solve the crime before it occurs, some women will end up pregnant in this way.

Now it is clear that Abbot is pushing BS that he has no intent of even attempting to do. But even if he were to intend to do so, he cannot solve the crime and bust the perp before it happens.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
23. They're not this stupid. They just don't care.
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 10:07 PM
Sep 2021

They only say this because they know enough stupid people will buy it or delude themselves into thinking it.

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