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(46,292 posts)
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 09:12 AM Sep 2021

Guy who demanded quack medicine has died...

Even money the family will now sue the hospital.

COVID-19 patient dies amid family’s legal battle to get him ivermectin

SUGAR LAND, Texas (KTRK) - A 74-year-old COVID patient in Texas, who was at the center of a legal battle over his hospital treatment, has died.

Pete Lopez, 74, died at Memorial Hermann Sugar Land Hospital after battling COVID-19 for almost a month. The Vietnam War veteran was put on a ventilator Aug. 19.

Lopez’s family sued the hospital after it refused to give him the drug ivermectin, which is a de-worming drug primarily used in large animals like cows and horses. A judge ordered the hospital to administer the drug, but according to the family, the hospital still refused.

https://www.wbay.com/2021/09/08/covid-19-patient-dies-amid-familys-legal-battle-get-him-ivermectin/

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Guy who demanded quack medicine has died... (Original Post) Archae Sep 2021 OP
Now they will sue the hospital and in TX could easily win if one of the TT* judges is in charge. lark Sep 2021 #1
Judge: "Doctor, is the use of ivermectin for treating COVID-19 infection considered Aristus Sep 2021 #8
That's the way it should be resolved. n/t Harker Sep 2021 #12
Unless they get some hillbilly hangin' judge. Aristus Sep 2021 #13
Even legal training is no guarantee. 3catwoman3 Sep 2021 #32
No kidding... Aristus Sep 2021 #34
Texas put in medical malpractice torte reform in 2003 SmittyWerben Sep 2021 #18
And I'm willing to bet.... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #33
You are right, it did not SmittyWerben Sep 2021 #41
Part of the formula for damages depends on possible future earnings. catrose Sep 2021 #47
Well, bye. NT CottonBear Sep 2021 #2
Well, bye... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #5
Why did he go to the hospital? If it was prescribed, he could have taken it at home. 33taw Sep 2021 #3
Then he could've used his own home built ventilator Walleye Sep 2021 #4
Hook up to his tailpipe. 33taw Sep 2021 #10
That would never work. jaxexpat Sep 2021 #27
Yea, make your own with a garden hose! KS Toronado Sep 2021 #25
Excellent question. I agree with your post. jrthin Sep 2021 #6
Should have tried his local veterinary office, I guess. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2021 #7
Vets are getting slammed with this request. It is so stupid. 33taw Sep 2021 #9
I'm not sure I've ever seen anything more stupid. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2021 #11
give it time, just give it time Celerity Sep 2021 #19
I could be wrong blogslug Sep 2021 #43
Not sure, but if she is his MPOA - she could have had him released to home for treatment there. 33taw Sep 2021 #45
No one was forcing him to stay in this hospital Rural_Progressive Sep 2021 #14
Veterinarians usually refuse.... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #38
The next time I go to the hospital, maybe I will demand Hemlock for treatment. Chainfire Sep 2021 #15
Hemlock, hell no - demand the Elixir of Life or Ambrosia of the Gods packman Sep 2021 #17
People are frightened & desperate but to think modern medicine mistakes COVID for worms is insanity bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #16
"His family declined to say whether he was vaccinated against the virus." TexasBushwhacker Sep 2021 #20
Yeah, usually it's mentioned if someone was vaxxed. Treefrog Sep 2021 #44
His family should sue the quacks that convinced him not to get vaccinated* OriginalGeek Sep 2021 #21
That case was in cilla4progress Sep 2021 #22
"A judge ordered the hospital to administer the drug but the hospital still refused." Botany Sep 2021 #23
Dang hospital didn't even multigraincracker Sep 2021 #24
Good Grief, People!!! It's HorsePaste! Available OTC at fine retail establishments everywhere griloco Sep 2021 #26
Consult your local feed store today! Initech Sep 2021 #28
I'm shocked, shocked! Well not that shocked. Initech Sep 2021 #29
I'm tempted to throw out the old 'play stupid games...' but... Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #30
It's already been trotted out by at least one guy. tblue37 Sep 2021 #39
Well ... who didn't see THIS coming? FakeNoose Sep 2021 #31
AMF, NT Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #35
Survived Viet Nam Traildogbob Sep 2021 #36
Feces occurs. 11 Bravo Sep 2021 #37
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #40
In my area (Western NY), a hospital was sued to give a patient Ivermectin, but the hospital lost liberal_mama Sep 2021 #42
The worms will get him now traitorsgalore Sep 2021 #46
Oh my god! That judge and that hospital killed that man! Goodheart Sep 2021 #48
To think 2 years ago I was an empathetic Liberal. Now I'm still a liberal... GulfCoast66 Sep 2021 #49
Not the same dude who got it prescribed in Ohio. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #50

lark

(23,058 posts)
1. Now they will sue the hospital and in TX could easily win if one of the TT* judges is in charge.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 09:17 AM
Sep 2021

Total assholes that they are.

TT = Texas Taliban

Aristus

(66,267 posts)
8. Judge: "Doctor, is the use of ivermectin for treating COVID-19 infection considered
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 10:18 AM
Sep 2021

standard-of-care in the practice of medicine?"

Doctor: "No, Your Honor."

Judge: "Case dismissed."

Aristus

(66,267 posts)
13. Unless they get some hillbilly hangin' judge.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 10:46 AM
Sep 2021

I don't know if it is like this anymore, but in Texas, judges were once elected to the bench, and no training in the law was required. The judge who presided at the trial of Jack Ruby, who killed Kennedy's assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, was just a good ole boy who won an election to the judgeship. A reading of the trial transcript reveals his hopeless incompetence as a trial judge.

3catwoman3

(23,936 posts)
32. Even legal training is no guarantee.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:47 AM
Sep 2021

Louie Gohmert. Need I say more.

That this yahoo was ever a judge makes my blood run cold.

SmittyWerben

(823 posts)
18. Texas put in medical malpractice torte reform in 2003
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:09 AM
Sep 2021

with low limit on "pain and suffering" that can be paid out. Lawyers won't usually go after medical malpractice because the payout is not worth the time and expense. I found this out through the experience of a friend of mine.

SergeStorms

(19,123 posts)
33. And I'm willing to bet....
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:49 AM
Sep 2021

it hasn't reduced the premiums Doctor's pay for malpractice insurance one dime.

"Tort reform" was just another republican scam to keep bad Doctors practicing, and to put more campaign cash in politicians' pockets.

catrose

(5,058 posts)
47. Part of the formula for damages depends on possible future earnings.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:33 PM
Sep 2021

At age 74, that number won't be high.

33taw

(2,435 posts)
3. Why did he go to the hospital? If it was prescribed, he could have taken it at home.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 09:28 AM
Sep 2021

Hospitals follow strict protocols for treatment, if you want alternative medicine the hospital is not the place to go.

blogslug

(37,977 posts)
43. I could be wrong
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

As I recall, it was his wife who asked for Ivermectin treatment for her husband after he was hospitalized.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
14. No one was forcing him to stay in this hospital
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 10:51 AM
Sep 2021

If he and his family were unhappy with the care he was receiving then the family should have had him transferred to a facility that would care for him the way they wished.

You know, free markets and all that stuff.

SergeStorms

(19,123 posts)
38. Veterinarians usually refuse....
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:56 AM
Sep 2021

customers who won't fit in a standard sized kennel. I'm guessing this man was too large for a veterinarian's 2 1/2 ft. X 3 ft. cage.

MAGAts are the stereotypical "dumb animals".

Chainfire

(17,437 posts)
15. The next time I go to the hospital, maybe I will demand Hemlock for treatment.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 10:52 AM
Sep 2021

It they don't give it to me and I die, my family can sue. If they do give it to me and I die, my family can sue. A win-win.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. Hemlock, hell no - demand the Elixir of Life or Ambrosia of the Gods
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:07 AM
Sep 2021

and when they don't have it and you die, then let your family sue.

bucolic_frolic

(43,004 posts)
16. People are frightened & desperate but to think modern medicine mistakes COVID for worms is insanity
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:02 AM
Sep 2021

Medical doctors are qualified to evaluate illness. MAGA has only witch doctors.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,120 posts)
20. "His family declined to say whether he was vaccinated against the virus."
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:15 AM
Sep 2021

I'll take that as a no. He also had a history of heart disease.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
21. His family should sue the quacks that convinced him not to get vaccinated*
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:19 AM
Sep 2021

and that ivermectin was the way to go thereby delaying more traditional treatment.


*Family won't say if he was vaxxed so I'm just assuming not.

Botany

(70,425 posts)
23. "A judge ordered the hospital to administer the drug but the hospital still refused."
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:21 AM
Sep 2021

Yes, because it is a hospital not a large animal vet clinic.

So a Texas dumb ass who refused the vaccine and then he got sick and died.

Ohio Joe

(21,723 posts)
30. I'm tempted to throw out the old 'play stupid games...' but...
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:43 AM
Sep 2021

The virus is not playing.

I thought at some point the marks would wake up to that simple fact but... I guess not. That only means one thing... At some point the virus will be declared a weapon of the left that is targeting them for their politics. I have no doubt that CT is coming to a magat near you soon.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
36. Survived Viet Nam
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:55 AM
Sep 2021

But succumbed to the AmirKKKan jungles of stupid. The most potent enemy any of our veterans ever faced. Lies and blind trust of power hungry thieves. Over 10 times the deaths of Vietnam in 1.5 years. Many more to come.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
42. In my area (Western NY), a hospital was sued to give a patient Ivermectin, but the hospital lost
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 01:21 PM
Sep 2021

The person was given the ivermectin and she did recover, but it could have been just a coincidence.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/politics/2021/01/20/covid-patient-out-of-hospital-after-court-order-to-get-experimental-treatment

traitorsgalore

(1,393 posts)
46. The worms will get him now
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 05:01 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe his family will poop their guts out after taking ivermectin and then sue the makers of ivermectin.

Goodheart

(5,307 posts)
48. Oh my god! That judge and that hospital killed that man!
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:35 PM
Sep 2021

Their protocol denied him the ivermectin that would have saved his life!

It's not COVID that's killing people, it's the protocols!

/sarcasm

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
49. To think 2 years ago I was an empathetic Liberal. Now I'm still a liberal...
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:13 AM
Sep 2021

But don’t care that this fucker is dead. One less brain dead Republican voter. Would not care if it took his wife.

Every republican I know is vaccinated. But then a few of them are no longer republicans and they are co-workers. Not real friends. And I don’t hang with evangelicals or hard core right wing folks. Avoid them like the plague.

maxsolomon

(33,231 posts)
50. Not the same dude who got it prescribed in Ohio.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:22 AM
Sep 2021

A judge backed that scrip up too, and the hospital also refused.

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