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sheshe2

(83,753 posts)
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 04:48 PM Sep 2021

LAST NITE ON SEATTLE NEWS,




TigerTamer
@MedicVet68
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LAST NITE ON SEATTLE NEWS, IDAHO is out of hospital beds, Prompting WA. STATE to say, "WE WILL NOT SEE OUT OF STATERS, AS WE WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN POPULATION, ONLY" The door has been shut to ANTIVAXXERS AND UNVACCINATED! #BLUEWAVE2022


Harsh, however...
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LAST NITE ON SEATTLE NEWS, (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2021 OP
Don't Think A State Can Do That modrepub Sep 2021 #1
It will be easy to deny transfer, TNNurse Sep 2021 #12
Sllllloooooooooooooow wwwwwaaaaaaaalllllllllkkkkkkk.... paleotn Sep 2021 #14
I don't think there are any Trauma Centers in N. Idaho maxsolomon Sep 2021 #2
That's odd, considering living in Northern Idaho must be pretty traumatic. Aristus Sep 2021 #4
Great point! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #9
oh my! Roc2020 Sep 2021 #20
re-posted regarding Idaho. spike jones Sep 2021 #21
Coeur d'Alene should have one or two. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #18
Good governors Bad governors KT2000 Sep 2021 #3
Inslee is a good governor! Andy823 Sep 2021 #7
Yes he is!! KT2000 Sep 2021 #10
...states and their voters. paleotn Sep 2021 #15
I live in Washington state Andy823 Sep 2021 #5
It's not true. PSPS Sep 2021 #8
Yeah, no doubt. plimsoll Sep 2021 #16
So do I and it sure doesn't seem true. No indication. nolabear Sep 2021 #19
"TigerTamer" must have been high. There was no such news. Idaho did trigger TSE, though. PSPS Sep 2021 #6
Spokane, WA is the nearest metropolitan area... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #11
My niece's husband is an administrator for a small leftyladyfrommo Sep 2021 #13
I had a serious leg fracture, beginning of quarantine, and only surg center was a cardiac hospital. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #24
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes like an agonizing death alone, OMGWTF Sep 2021 #17
COVID Victims, or COVID Volunteers? Bo Zarts Sep 2021 #22
Cool post, cool song. Yes, they are volunteers, not victims. panader0 Sep 2021 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Sep 2021 #23

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
1. Don't Think A State Can Do That
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 05:10 PM
Sep 2021

If you're insured, I'd think the company would make the call if you can transfer. In a gross sense this is probably interstate commerce to some extent, unless you're uninsured. Hospitals are theoretically engaging in commerce of some type by treating patients.

That said, I wouldn't blame a state for trying to keep sick, infected people away from its citizens.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
14. Sllllloooooooooooooow wwwwwaaaaaaaalllllllllkkkkkkk....
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 06:32 PM
Sep 2021

Or...."Empty beds? No, those are reserved. Sorry. Try Wyoming." Lots of ways to work around the system, interstate commerce or not.

maxsolomon

(33,331 posts)
2. I don't think there are any Trauma Centers in N. Idaho
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 05:11 PM
Sep 2021

near Spokane. Spokane has 2 or 3 Level IIs.

They'll keep sending them over the border rather than flying them to Boise.

spike jones

(1,678 posts)
21. re-posted regarding Idaho.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 07:22 PM
Sep 2021

I saw a guy on a Seattle street corner holding a sign, "Please help. I was raised in Idaho."

2naSalit

(86,591 posts)
18. Coeur d'Alene should have one or two.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 07:04 PM
Sep 2021

A friend of mine had major heart surgery there and it was a major hospital. They must be full since they are the regional for the panhandle. You'd have to go to Missoula otherwise. Nothing but some of the most rugged mountains in the lower 48 for a long way before you get to anything big like Boise, IF or Pocatello or even Twin Falls.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
5. I live in Washington state
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 05:24 PM
Sep 2021

I can't find anything about this when searching for information.

I never buy into what someone on twitter says. I have seen a lot of misinformation here on DU from tweets.

I could be wrong, but I really don't think this is real.

Take care she!

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
16. Yeah, no doubt.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 06:36 PM
Sep 2021

We'll complain about it, but the Tri-Cities' hospitals are pegged too, so my guess is if they're getting turned away from Idaho and Eastern Oregon it's because there aren't really enough hospital beds to handle a biomedical catastrophe in the first place, and rural areas have been losing healthcare for years. This has just made it worse.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
19. So do I and it sure doesn't seem true. No indication.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 07:07 PM
Sep 2021

I heard on the news that the question was raised by god knows who, but that no one had decided to do that.

Where’s this coming from?

PSPS

(13,595 posts)
6. "TigerTamer" must have been high. There was no such news. Idaho did trigger TSE, though.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 05:25 PM
Sep 2021
With a critical shortage of hospital beds and staff and one of the nation's lowest vaccination rates, Idaho health providers are growing desperate and preparing to follow crisis standards of care, which call for giving scarce resources to patients most likely to survive.

St. Luke's Boise Medical Center invited The Associated Press into its restricted ICUs this week in hopes that sharing the dire reality would prompt people to change their behavior.

“There is so much loss here, and so much of it is preventable. I'm not just talking about loss of life. Ultimately, it's like loss of hope,” said Dr. Jim Souza, chief medical officer. “When the vaccines came out in December, those of us in health care were like, 'Oh, my God, it's like the cavalry coming over the hill.' ... To see now what's playing out? It's all so needless."

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
11. Spokane, WA is the nearest metropolitan area...
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 06:20 PM
Sep 2021

and thus the location of the nearest major hospital facilities to N Idaho.

This ain't happening.

Perhaps a lame attempt at humor.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
13. My niece's husband is an administrator for a small
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 06:26 PM
Sep 2021

hospital north of Spokane. They had a man come to ER with a very serious leg fracture. They could not find a hospital that would take him. An orthopedic surgeon that lived close brought his own equipment and did the surgery there even though they had never done anything like that before. They had to wing it.

Irish_Dem

(47,036 posts)
24. I had a serious leg fracture, beginning of quarantine, and only surg center was a cardiac hospital.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:55 PM
Sep 2021

Same thing, orthopedic surgeon brought his own equipment.

The anesthesiologist could not find the necessary equipment for correct management of the pre surgical
procedures and he was cussing and throwing instruments as I waited for surgery and prep.

I just prayed that he calmed down and that the guy who was operating didn't give me a heart transplant instead of repairing my broken leg and ankle.

Everything turned out OK but it was a scary time.

Bo Zarts

(25,396 posts)
22. COVID Victims, or COVID Volunteers?
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 09:48 PM
Sep 2021

I worked fire season in the River of No Return Wilderness, Idaho, last summer (2020). You might have seen a photo or two I posted from that adventure. But two quick observations before a couple of stories. OBS #1. I saw very few masks anywhere in Idaho last summer. OBS #2. I saw lots and lots of guns - sidearms - in Idaho last summer.

Story 1: In late August of last year, I was in a small feed/seed & hardware store in rural Idaho, near the Salmon river. I was wearing a mask. There was a fellow in the checkout line ahead of me with what looked like a .45 automatic in a fancy holster, slung low from his cowboy belt. He wore no mask, so I could see his contemptuous sneer when he asked me, "What are you afraid of?"

In retrospect, I should have answered, "I am afraid of dangling prepositions, cowboy," but I didn't. I said instead, looking down at his gun and fancy holster, "What is it that you fear, sir?" I was wearing US Forest Service fire rags: Kevlar tactical fire pants, USFS fire crew t-shirt, FIRE on my ball cap; so I had to be civil.

I am told that lots of folks in that little town, especially the older men, do not exists anymore. It is a hotbed of COVID now. COVID victims everywhere.

Story 2: Last week there was an airplane crash in the Idaho wilderness, not too far from the fire lookout where I worked in 2020. There were three passengers and a pilot in the Cessna T-206. Once the wreckage was located in extremely rugged terrain, emergency crews had to rappel from a helicopter to reach the crash site. Two passengers were dead, another passenger was pinned in the wreckage. The pilot was alive, but had life-threatening injuries. To keep the story simple, the trapped passenger died shorly after he was removed from the airplane wreckage.

The surviving pilot was hoisted out on a basket litter by the big helo, and flown a few hundred yards to a medical evac helicopter that waited in a makeshift LZ. The medical evac helo lifted off and headed for the nearest trauma hospital in Boise. Shortly after leveling off and establishing a flight course to Boise, the medical evac helicopter was notified that no hospital in the Boise area would accept the crash victim. The hospitals were operating way over capacity, treating COVID victims.

So the helicopter turned east and headed for Idaho Falls. Thus, the sole survivor of the aircraft crash had to be flown to Idaho Falls, which was much farther away than Boise, because of COVID victims.

Idaho is a land of mask-holes and anti-vaxxers. And lots of guns. And lots of COVID victims.

Did you see what I did there? Italics for the word victim wherever it followed COVID. Christine Lavin wrote and performed a song in 1990, Victim/Volunteer. It juxtaposes victims and volunteers throughout the song. Sometimes fucking victims.

There is one couplet in the song that nails these COVID volunteers: the QAnoners, the anti-vaxxers, the maskholes, the tinfoil-hatters (with or without UFO infestations) .. all of those who aid and abet this lethal virus and some of whom die doing so (but really, seriously .. just fuck them at this point). Lavin sings:

He's not a victim of UFO infestation
He's a volunteer


So let's start differentiating between COVID victims and COVID volunteers. Call 'em that. You volunteered for this buddy, by maskless, vaxxless disregard for human life.

Too bad if you're a victim but whatever you do
Don't volunteer
Why would ya volunteer?
Please don't volunteer!


-- Christine Lavin 1990

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