General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat nut in Lincoln, Nebraska has been identified
Who is Janene Hoskovec? Maskless Woman Who Intentionally Coughed on Shoppers at Nebraska Grocery Store Identified as Arizona-Based IT Employee
The SAP released a statement saying it was investigating the incident involving one of its employees.
A video of a maskless woman intentionally coughing on customers at a Super Saver grocery store in Lincoln, Nebraska, is being widely circulated on social media.
The original video was shared on Reddit last week along with the title, "Anti-Mask Karen Deliberately Coughing on me at South 27th Super Saver." The video quickly spread to other social media platforms, going viral on TikTok and Twitter, where a version shared by popular account Fifty Shades of Whey has been viewed more than 2 million times.
'I'm Not Sick and Neither Are You'
The Reddit user who goes by Jessabird detailed the events that led to her pull out her cellphone and start filming. She said she was at the store with her 13-year-old daughter when the maskless "Karen" approached them and confronted them for wearing masks, saying how "Nebraskans have turned into sheep."
Jessabird said the woman then proceeded to follow the mother and daughter around the store and when she asked her to maintain social distance, the woman started coughing on them intentionally.
In the video, the woman is seen coughing multiple times in the direction of the videographer. "Excuse me, I'm coming through," the woman is heard saying as she continues to cough at the mother and daughter. The woman then says, "Look at you guys, you're so cute. ... You're such sheep."
When a fellow shopper asks her why she wasn't wearing a mask, the woman replies by saying "Because I don't need to have one on. I'm not sick and neither are you." The woman then claims she has "allergies" when confronted about coughing at the shoppers. Watch the video below:
Link to tweet
?s=20
https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-janene-hoskovec-maskless-woman-who-intentionally-coughed-shoppers-nebraska-grocery-store-60108
Joinfortmill
(14,419 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)Jimbo S
(2,958 posts)CatWoman
(79,301 posts)spooky3
(34,452 posts)she is likely an at will employee, so the company has no obligation to employ her?
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Shes on video coughing on people outside of work. What if someone in the office was doing somethings she disapproved of?
She will be out within 72 hours I bet.
spooky3
(34,452 posts)Jimbo S
(2,958 posts)Does being an ass hole *outside* of work justify termination? If so, millions would be out of work.
CatWoman
(79,301 posts)i really don't have a problem with that.
only ignorant, rabid scum goes around coughing in people's faces.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Its happening to Karens often.
brush
(53,778 posts)And then not wearing a mask either, consequences should follow.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,341 posts)spooky3
(34,452 posts)to lose your job.
Certainly it is ethically justifiable to fire someone for engaging in harassment and assault, or doing other things that reflect badly on the company. There is no gray area here; this employee had no need to be aggressive toward innocent shoppers, let alone shoppers doing the right thing in a pandemic; they werent doing anything wrong toward her. Her employer has to wonder what this employee might do next, toward fellow employees, for example.
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)They can fire you for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all.
They just can't fire you for an illegal reason, such as being a member of a protected class (gender, religion, race, etc.).
That's what employment at will means.
hadEnuf
(2,190 posts)She is obviously a health risk to anyone around her.
If someone stabs random people outside of work but not in work should they not be terminated from their job?
wnylib
(21,451 posts)Deliberately coughing on someone during a pandemic is an assault that could jeopardize people's health and lives.
She followed her victims in order to endanger them. That's stalking.
An unstable stalker who endangers people's lives in public is a liability to a company's customers and to their other employees.
Are you kidding me?
denbot
(9,899 posts)Fuck them, they are bringing false narratives into peoples faces, and potentially killing them. It seems to me that you would have to be a complete asshole TROLL to see no problem in using social media to do what can be done to discourage a subset of asshole from literally trying to kill those they disagree with politically.
irisblue
(32,974 posts)Nebraska is an Employment at Will state. That means that the employer and the employee have equal rights to terminate employment at any time for any reason as long as no other law is being violated (i.e. Workers' Compensation, FMLA, EEOC, etc.)
https://dol.nebraska.gov FAQ Ge...
General FAQs - Nebraska Department of Labor
soldierant
(6,865 posts)is assault and battery (emphasis on the battery.) And reckless endangerment Both crimes. And you can be put in jail/prison for aommitting a crime. And you can also be fired for it, even if the crime was not committed on the job.
rambler_american
(789 posts)Because deliberately coughing on someone constitutes assault if I'm not mistaken. And if it's not it certainly should be.
stollen
(419 posts)Do have the police on speed dial.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Aren't allergies supposed to make you sneeze, not cough? But Janene's so taken with her smug comebacks that she's just asking for the boom to be lowered on her. It'll make for a great story at the unemployment office!
CatWoman
(79,301 posts)i have seasonal allergies and the sneezing can be ferocious
Hekate
(90,683 posts)Also shes an *hole & very taken with her own alleged cleverness.
wnylib
(21,451 posts)that include coughing, sneezing, abdominal pain, rashes and hives, eczema, and more.
Asthma causes coughing, especially allergen-induced asthma. But stalking someone and coughing in their face is a deliberate act. As someone with multiple allergies and asthma, I know that when you feel the cough coming on, you turn away from people and cover your mouth. You don't seek them out and cough at will in their face.
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)As reported by International Business Times, Janene works as a client partner at SAPs office in Tempe, Arizona.
According to her LinkedIn profile, she received her Juris Doctor degree from the Arizona Summit Law School and has worked in technology sales for 20 years.
Her account states that she has worked for SAP for over three years and has served in similar technology roles at other companies.
Link to tweet
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Pretty well educated for someone who is so ignorant.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Her law school was a for profit school with a bar passing rate in the single digits. It was so bad, that the ABA pulled its accreditation so she is a graduate of an unaccredited law school with about a 90 percent chance that she did not pass the bar. She wrote a bunch of checks to say she graduated from law school
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Well, not necessarily her appalling lack of manners though.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Sidney Powell graduated from UNC Law School.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Smart people can learn enough to pass any test and still be stupid, but, this woman could not get into a shitty law school so she went to a for profit, really shitty law school that had an awful bar passing rate and the ABA took accreditation away from. The school was only in existence for about 10 years. I am sure a good lawyer or two graduated and passed the bar, but not many.
We only need to look at Congress to see that.
sanatanadharma
(3,705 posts)One is ignorant when unable to control one's emotional response to encountering other points of view.
One is ignorant when behaving contrary to kindergarten lessons about sharing.
One is ignorant when ignoring the grace of seeing and changing their own personal shortcomings.
One is ignorant when believing the world of others needs be subservient to their own prejudices and preferences.
One is ignorant when self-identifying with desires which can be changed, like one's mind.
One is ignorant when saying "I know"; better to say I was taught (perhaps well, perhaps not).
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)she is not working as an attorney.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)will be getting feedback from some of them.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)When it was accredited for about 5 years.
The degree is not worth the paper it is written on.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Hotler
(11,421 posts)Pall Mall red and wait for the cops. I miss ya mom.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)to cough on another person? Even if there wasn't a pandemic, that is just about as rude and inconsiderate as you can get. Looks like she just enjoys the attention.
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)NOT FIRED!
wnylib
(21,451 posts)her to be prosecuted for assault. Follow her to her car, get her license plate number, and call the police to press charges. The phone video and store security cameras are evidence.
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)100000% agree!
MissMillie
(38,557 posts)...and I'll bet she claims to be a Christian.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)scipan
(2,351 posts)I predicted we would know her name yesterday, but I don't mind being a day off.
She was such a smug little bully, laughing at the strangers as she harassed them. Now she's going to whine and say that she never meant to really stalk and cough at innocent people. Now she will have to face the fact that she's nothing more than an asshole.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)People here in Tucson has got maced for doing this and was charged with aggravated assault. Person that did the macing was justified under stand your ground.
tanyev
(42,556 posts)Let the shunning begin.
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,667 posts)it can go viral, and total strangers will find out everything about you in a few hours?
paleotn
(17,913 posts)Traildogbob
(8,739 posts)Pissed on her. Claiming I have bladder issues and prostate problems. If she can purposely cough on me with allergies, why could I not piss on her?
keithbvadu2
(36,802 posts)Spitting on grocery store produce .
He got b_tch-slapped.
He deserved it.
CCExile
(468 posts)we don't need a license to carry, anymore.
musette_sf
(10,200 posts)but hopefully, not for much longer.
ProfessorGAC
(65,035 posts)So many giant clients, I'd think any bad publicity or connections is one too many.
I'd be very surprised if they don't launch her.
NQCowboy68
(67 posts)Link to tweet
SAP
@SAP
·
Sep 8, 2021
The health and safety of our employees and the communities in which we live and work are of utmost concern to us. We are taking the matter of an SAP employee incident very seriously and investigating the situation.
SAP
@SAP
We have reviewed the incident and can confirm that the individual in question no longer works for SAP.
5:25 PM · Sep 8, 2021
musette_sf
(10,200 posts)I knew that wouldn't take long!