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Tweet of the late night: (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2021 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #1
And another K&R! calimary Sep 2021 #2
... SheltieLover Sep 2021 #3
Might as well harness all that solar power. secondwind Sep 2021 #4
What an appalling waste of land. About 1/4 of climate change is driven by land use changes, NNadir Sep 2021 #5
Better than cows. If everyone is driving an electric car the electricity applegrove Sep 2021 #6
If people are driving electric cars, they are pushing humanity toward oblivion. NNadir Sep 2021 #9
Better than cows. If everyone is driving an electric car the electricity applegrove Sep 2021 #10
I just bought Solar Panels markie Sep 2021 #7
Arizona likes its solar. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2021 #8

NNadir

(33,457 posts)
5. What an appalling waste of land. About 1/4 of climate change is driven by land use changes,
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:40 AM
Sep 2021

Every single solar cell in that disturbing picture will be electronic waste in 25 years, and it will fall to future generations to clean up this popular, but badly chosen mess.

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
6. Better than cows. If everyone is driving an electric car the electricity
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:43 AM
Sep 2021

is needed. Then the forests will be healthier due to less exhaust.

NNadir

(33,457 posts)
9. If people are driving electric cars, they are pushing humanity toward oblivion.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 06:49 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:25 AM - Edit history (2)

I covered how pernicious this hand waving nonsense many times in many places, most recently here: The number of elements in the periodic table in car types: ICV, hybrid and plug in hybrid.

I've been hearing these x% "by year yyyy" statements my entire adult life and I'm not young. I recall that it started with "by 1990." When I was young, I believed this lie, but I looked into it in considerable detail, and having done so, recognized it for what it is, lipstick on the dangerous fossil fuel pig.

The solar electric car fantasy (or hydrogen car fantasy) has not worked, is not working, and won't work. We hit 420 ppm of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere this spring, less than 10 years after we first hit 400 ppm.

It would seem to me that rather than repeat glib mantras that don't work, we get serious.

The mining connected with the picture in the OP makes it clear to me that the use of land in the picture is not better than cows.

There is, by the way, no such thing as a "green car." The car CULTure is not sustainable in any form.

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
10. Better than cows. If everyone is driving an electric car the electricity
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:41 PM
Sep 2021

is needed. Then the forests will be healthier due to less exhaust.

markie

(22,756 posts)
7. I just bought Solar Panels
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 03:59 AM
Sep 2021

they will be coming next week to scope out the site and do preliminary work... the company I'm working with offers financing with payments equal to my average electric bill... can't wait

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
8. Arizona likes its solar.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:04 AM
Sep 2021

After all to of the large cities have the nicknames Valley of the sun (Phoenix) and The Solar City (Tucson)

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