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FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
1. Seems more like the PI is a jackass
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:13 AM
Sep 2021

And apparently an awful PI as well.

How easy would it have been to just show his FL PI license and explain what he was doing? Police should investigate when a woman reports being stalked and it was clear that the first officer was considering that as a possibility (that he was an investigator)

But oh no… then he couldn’t push his video on social media - which the evidence suggests makes up more of his income than his ham handed PI work.

For those considering playing such games with the police. They do have to have a reasonable suspicion that you’ve committed a crime… but that’s for a judge to evaluate. They don’t have to prove it to your satisfaction.

“No disrespect” but all cops are liars… plus laughable demands for “professional courtesy”

My money would be on a guess that he set the whole thing up.

Scrivener7

(50,924 posts)
2. Youtube rule: when the verb in the title is in all caps and it describes someone getting
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:24 AM
Sep 2021

the better of someone else, the video is going to be a waste of time.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. As a PI let me say, cops hate PI's and PI's are constantly jerked around by cops
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:52 AM
Sep 2021

Some departments demand that you inform them when you are working in the area. They say this is so they know ahead of time when people call to complain. Sounds good, no? But most of the time they will still roll up on you and harass you with the lights on when you are sitting in a perfectly legal space.

Sometimes you have to be an asshole back to the cops, especially when you have the knowledge and ammo to shut them down.



That being said, the number of PI's I trust can be counted on one hand. I have worked in the industry for nearly 20 years.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
10. Be that as it may... THIS PI is the one doing the "jerking around"
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:10 AM
Sep 2021

A quick search through his videos makes clear that he seeks out such conflict with the intent of making videos like this one.

There's a good chance that there was no legitimate target of his supposed investigation. IOW, I'd bet that she made the call at his request to create a situation that he could video and share. He has done things like that on multiple prior occasions (including losing in court and appeals all the way up the chain).

He just wants you to like and subscribe. He doesn't want the police to leave him alone.

This guy would not make your list of PIs to trust.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. Definitely would not trust that guy. He's a poser and a gotcha guy
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:27 AM
Sep 2021

Probably never worked anything but workers comp cases.

multigraincracker

(32,641 posts)
4. Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:04 AM
Sep 2021

The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction Amendments. Often considered one of the most consequential amendments, it addresses citizenship rights and equal protection under the law and was proposed in response to issues related to former slaves following the American Civil War.Wikipedia

I had a Law Professor in college that was a former NY Police detective. He told the class "never talk to a cop" unless you have your lawyer present if you are being investigated for a crime. This was back in 1968.
I was also married to a cop and have been around a lot of cops. They are trained to lie to you. By law they are allowed to do this. You are not allowed to lie to them. The same law makes it legal for you to have your lawyer present for any questions they ask.
I have found that, there may be one cop in every dept. that will not give a "Professional Courtesy” to his fellow LEO, their family or any other officer of a court. This is a violation of the Constitution and their oath of office. Everyone has the same Constitutional rights whether you are a LEO or a citizen.
If this person WAS arrested he would win his case. Cops use this, and know it is illegal. The common thought is "who's going to arrest me, I'm a cop".
Talk to any Chief or Sheriff with a PHD and he will tell you the same thing. Being a LEO is a hard job, but that does not give them the right to violate the Constitution.

Chautauquas

(4,435 posts)
12. I think he did the right thing
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:36 AM
Sep 2021

He is not required to answer their questions, so why should he? I hear a lot of people say things like "just show them your ID so they can do their job" but he's not required to help them do their job and he's not required to answer their questions if they can't or won't articulate suspicion that he committed or is about to commit a crime.

He's right to say - never talk to cops. Nothing good can come of it, and a lot of bad things can occur if you do.

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