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Eugene

(61,846 posts)
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:43 AM Sep 2021

Man accused of bringing molotov cocktails, five loaded firearms to Capitol on Jan. 6 set to plead gu

Also: North Alabama Capitol riot suspect reaches plea agreement (WAFF-TV)

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Source: Washington Post

Man accused of bringing molotov cocktails, five loaded firearms to Capitol on Jan. 6 set to plead guilty

By Spencer S. Hsu
September 8, 2021 at 5:05 p.m. EDT

An Alabama man is set to plead guilty after authorities say he brought five loaded firearms and 11 molotov cocktails with napalm-like properties to the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, prosecutors and his defense told a judge Wednesday.

Lonnie Leroy Coffman of Falkville, Ala., was charged in a 17-count indictment with possessing some of the deadliest unregistered weapons and explosives found on the day of the pro-Trump riot that led to assaults on nearly 140 police officers, breached the Capitol and forced the evacuation of Congress.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly had tentatively set a Sept. 29 plea hearing for Coffman, a 71-year-old Army veteran and the first person indicted in the Capitol riot probe, and gave both sides a deadline of Wednesday to act on a plea offer extended by the government in July. In a late-afternoon joint notice with Coffman’s defense, prosecutors wrote, “The parties have reached an agreement to resolve this case prior to trial through a plea agreement,” adding that Coffman was ready to plead as scheduled.

The notice did not specify what Coffman would plead guilty to or whether he was cooperating with prosecutors.

A plea is not final until accepted by a judge. But the investigation of Coffman could shed light on the lingering mysteries of his case: what prompted him to come to the Capitol while allegedly heavily armed and whether he was working in concert with others.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/lonnie-coffman-molotov-cocktail--capitol-plea/2021/09/08/0f39e3ba-10b6-11ec-bc8a-8d9a5b534194_story.html

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Source: WAFF-TV

North Alabama Capitol riot suspect reaches plea agreement

By Kelsey Duncan
Published: Sep. 8, 2021 at 5:00 PM EDT | Updated: 12 hours ago

WASHINGTON D.C., Ala. (WAFF) - The Department of Justice have reached a plea agreement for Lonnie Coffman, who is currently facing 17 counts of various firearm and weapons charges following the January 6th violence at the U.S. Capitol building.

An agreement has been reached on Wednesday to resolve the case prior to his trial through a plea agreement. According to court documents, both parties anticipate his Sept. 29 hearing can be converted to a plea hearing.

Details on the plea agreement have not been released.

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Read more: https://www.waff.com/2021/09/08/north-alabama-capiton-riot-suspect-will-plead-guilty/
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Man accused of bringing molotov cocktails, five loaded firearms to Capitol on Jan. 6 set to plead gu (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2021 OP
Alabammie, eh? bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #1
Maybe Not (Bomb Placements) modrepub Sep 2021 #2
So, I am wondering OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #3
Maybe this is why. Shoeless Louis Sep 2021 #6
Hmm OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #11
Trying to kidnap and murder sitting members of congress seems like attacking the government to me. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #15
I agree gratuitous Sep 2021 #9
Which I like better than 'attempted'. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #12
I put the blame squarely on the Biden Justice Department not the MSM Locutusofborg Sep 2021 #14
The DOJ has been spineless on this so far. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2021 #17
Jan 6 Coup Day RicROC Sep 2021 #4
Sigh...it was not a "riot" n/t hibbing Sep 2021 #5
And you make that claim why? Do your rEsSEaRcH. Shoeless Louis Sep 2021 #7
A riot is spontaneous. This insurrection was planned far and wide for months. panader0 Sep 2021 #8
Sigh. That doesn't make it "not a riot". Stay focused, don't answer the question that wasn't aske Shoeless Louis Sep 2021 #10
This was both an insurrection and a riot StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #16
Thanks for your input hibbing Sep 2021 #13

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
1. Alabammie, eh?
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:09 AM
Sep 2021

Hope they throw mo' books at this guy than anyone else! Molotov cocktails meant for our Historic Capitol?

BTW any updates on the DNC/RNC bomb placements? I still wonder if that wasn't an effort to make the riot appear bipartisan, which might have been useful to the highest ring of instigators.

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
2. Maybe Not (Bomb Placements)
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:14 AM
Sep 2021

Dems to protest their win and Repubs to protest not doing enough to stop seating the new POTUS.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,112 posts)
3. So, I am wondering
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:30 AM
Sep 2021

That, since these 'news' agencies do not seem able to use the correct descriptor for what happened on January 6th, namely 'insurrection', just how many of their rethug owners with connections to the same politicians who are under investigation for possible collusion and aid to these same insurrectionists have demanded that the word 'insurrection' never be used in reporting on the events of that day? I see 'riot' and I see 'violence' but never the one word that most accurately and honestly describes what happened that day. Weird, isn't it? Because that is what happened, regardless of any slimy rethug's attempts to downplay the fact that their party was actively trying to overthrow a legitimate sitting government.

Shoeless Louis

(73 posts)
6. Maybe this is why.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:27 PM
Sep 2021

It may be inappropriate to use the word insurrection in so far as the riot occurred in resistance to the election and not against the sitting government as you stated.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,112 posts)
11. Hmm
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:29 PM
Sep 2021

That is some real legalese there. According to Websters, insurrection means: 'an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government'. I feel that they did precisely that. The authority that said 'here is the result of the election and here are the winners' which they themselves admit to trying to shut down the process, i.e.: the government which was following the protocols of said governmental charter. They also defied civil authority in refusing to stand down, refusing to vacate the premises, and literally attacking those who were tasked with the protection of the legislative branch. Just because they were not kicking down the door of the White House does not mean they were not trying to achieve the goal of removing the 'sitting government' of this nation and replacing it with something else... namely an orange despot with delusions for everything. That is what it looked like to me on January 6th. I suppose we will have to wait and see what finally happens on this matter to see which is the correct interpretation.

Irish_Dem

(46,772 posts)
15. Trying to kidnap and murder sitting members of congress seems like attacking the government to me.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:37 PM
Sep 2021

They were not hunting Nancy P to play games.

The gallows were not there for fun.

The panic buttons were not ripped out of elected MOC offices as a joke.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. I agree
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:58 PM
Sep 2021

And scrupulous use of the modifier "failed" to describe the insurrection should also be used every time it's mentioned. For accuracy.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
14. I put the blame squarely on the Biden Justice Department not the MSM
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:48 PM
Sep 2021

Not a single one of 638 (and still counting) defendants arrested and charged with crimes has been charged with the federal crimes of insurrection or sedition.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
4. Jan 6 Coup Day
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:17 AM
Sep 2021

One doesn't bring bear spray, zip ties and firearms as a tourist to DC.

They drove to DC from 'wherever' because with those materials, they would not be allowed to fly or take the bus or train, hence, this Coup attempt was premeditated. It wasn't an oooops, my bad.
And the ongoing denial of the result of the 2020 Election results shows the concept of a coup was not a passing thought in the occasional person's head.

DOJ should book everyone suspected of participation, including TFG and members of Congress. In the courtroom they can explain to the judge and the jury. If it turns out to be a 'false arrest', then I guess the taxpayers pay restitution (but I don't think we need to worry about opening up the coffers).

Shoeless Louis

(73 posts)
7. And you make that claim why? Do your rEsSEaRcH.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:30 PM
Sep 2021

Look up the word riot in any dictionary. And then explain what chosen version of the definition does not fully apply to the claim that it was a riot.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. This was both an insurrection and a riot
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:39 PM
Sep 2021

A riot is a type of disturbance, i.e., a violent one. An insurrection is a disturbance with one particular purpose.

An insurrection is an uprising or rebellion against the government. It can be attempted and/or accomplished by means of a riot. But it can also be attempted and/or accomplished by other means not involving a riot.

A riot can be totally unrelated to insurrection, for example, an angry mob pillaging and looting with no intention of targeting or rebelling against the government.

The January 6 events were both an insurrection and a riot, i.e., it was a riot engaged in for the purpose of insurrection.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
13. Thanks for your input
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:43 PM
Sep 2021

I think that language minimizes the significance of the event. Sorry I didn't do my RESEARCH!

Peace

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