The Rude Pundit: Don't Tell Me Not to Mock People Who Hate My Guts

[babylonsister]

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2021/09/dont-tell-me-not-to-mock-people-who.html


The Rude Pundit
Proudly lowering the level of political discourse
9/07/2021
Don't Tell Me Not to Mock People Who Hate My Guts


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The pleas for kindness or empathy cross ideological lines. In The Atlantic, Elizabeth Bruenig asks us to "Stop Death Shaming" the unvaccinated and says, "It’s worth considering what an honest persuasion effort aimed at the unvaccinated or vaccine-hesitant would look like," although the answer is "It would look like exactly what was done when the vaccine first came out." Writer Conor Friedersdorf asks us to stop "mocking people" for sucking down horse paste and instead do the "tedious work" of convincing them not to suck down horse paste. In the National Review (motto: "Democracy dies in the darkness we created" ), longtime right-wing dickstain John Fund wants us to be nicer to people who ingest Ivermectin because there is a version for humans. That's a common refrain: there's a human version that is widely prescribed in places where parasitic worms are an issue (and I don't mean the Republican Party, hey-yo!), so, you know, those who think it's worth a chance to take it shouldn't be instantly dismissed and insulted.

And all I can say is "Don't be fucking ridiculous. Of course, we're gonna make fun of them. All of them." First, on the Ivermectin insanity, yeah, rich pricks like Joe Rogan can pay a doesn't-give-a-fuck doctor to get the human prescription version, but most of the people doing it aren't rich pricks. They're poor and middle class pricks whose doctors are telling them, "The fuck is wrong with you? Fuck, no, I'm not prescribing the anti-lice and worm drugs for you" so they go to the ol' feed and seed and pick it up. Or, for ten bucks, some Walmarts. It's a tube of paste, for real, often apple flavored, and dumb motherfuckers are sucking it down to prevent or cure their Covid. It's gotten so bad that the FDA and other health officials, as well as the makers of Ivermectin, Merck, have issued statements saying, more or less, "Would you dumb rednecks stop sucking down the sheep goo?" And the goo is selling out at farm stores because you don't need a veterinarian's prescription to get it for your horse or sheep or cow (there is an injectable version that does need a prescription). A Memphis feed store can't keep it on the shelves. A Las Vegas store wants you to prove you have a horse before you can buy it. While, sure, the story about Ivermectin overdoses preventing gunshot victims from being seen at a hospital in Oklahoma was, at best, overblown, the fact is that people are calling poison control in huge numbers after taking the horse drug and they are ODing and taking up space in the ERs with their stupidity.

And you can make all kinds of statements about how we need to understand why people might do this absolutely fucking moronic thing. You can talk about the unfair medical system and rural areas without access to proper care or how desperate people do desperate things. You can blah, blah, blah all fucking day trying to fluff that sympathy cock into a full-blown erection, but it fails for one simple reason. There's a goddamn vaccine. It's free. It works. That's the answer. Anything you try to say after that is bullshit. It's all a lie. You don't want the vaccine because it's "experimental," but you'll eat the horse goo even though it's totally untested for Covid. That's fucking hilarious. You don't want the vaccine because you heard it might harm you and then you got Covid and died. That's so fucking miserable that I better make fun of it or I'll scream at your grave about what a shit-souled loser you were.

I don't hate them. I pity them and feel superior to them because, well, I am (and so is everybody who gets vaccinated and doesn't put a tube of cow paste to their lips). I won't treat them like children. As I've said repeatedly, they are adults who made an adult decision to listen to assholes instead of doctors. So I save my hatred for Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and Ron Johnson and every scum from the garbage pail bottom who keeps telling their viewers or listeners or voters not to get vaccinated and to try this bullshit drug or that bullshit cure.

No, I don't hate the willfully unvaccinated, but I don't have sympathy. I lost that a long goddamn time ago. And that's because the people we are trying to convince to get vaccinated hate our fucking guts and dream of slaughtering us or at least exiling or concentration camping us. So, yeah, I'm gonna keep mocking them for their refusal to do the easiest goddamn thing in the world. I'm gonna do it because they scare the fuck out of me by their actions that might end up dragging us all down into the ditch with them and joking about it keeps me sane amidst this genuine insanity. Being nice about it is a waste of goddamn time.

Plus, c'mon, finding out that some of these idiots are eating so much horse paste that they shit out their intestinal lining and think it's worms and then think that's a good thing? That's comedy gold.

(Just to note about the opening story: He wasn't a good friend or anything. Just someone who I always enjoyed seeing when a particular group gathered, so his loss doesn't leave a hole in my life. More of a "Huh. That's fucked up." )

[SYFROYH]

1. There's a lot of space between lacking empathy and mocking the dying.

Even if they are dying because they made bad decisions.

[gab13by13]

2. Do you interact with these people?

I live among them in central Pa. and they are fucking dangerous. Pa. just passed a mask mandate in all schools and the Magats were out protesting in front of the elementary school. Making masks voluntary in schools endangers children of sensible parents who believe in masks.

My point is this; these Magats have made it the "sensible position" to not wear masks, in church, at football games, at indoor events. These Magats have made it so the sensible people are the crazies, are the people who are shamed. I live among them I know. When I go into a store with a mask on I know that I risk being confronted by a Magat just because I am wearing a mask. These people are endangering us all by promoting a spread of more mutant viruses.

I golf with the Magats and one asked me if I got vaccinated and I answered I sure did. He got in my face and demanded to know why. He cited some quack doctor who claims Vaccines don't work. I learned from living among them that it does absolutely no good to debate with them. I simply repeated over and over again that I don't talk politics at the golf course until he stopped.

It is the Magats who are attacking us for wearing masks and getting vaccinated, I choose to ignore them, but I'm OK with mocking them, it doesn't matter, they are a cult and will never change.

[SYFROYH]

3. I live in South Georgia. I understand.

And I agree that mocking doesn’t change them. And if it doesn’t help then mocking is just self-indulgent meanness.

[Tommymac]

28. Sorry, they can all get fucked as far as I am concerned.

700,000 +reasons why.

[Mortos]

43. Nothing will change their mind except

when it happens to them or one of theirs. They are selfish, deluded, proudly ignorant bullies who would just as soon beat someone who thinks differently as look at them. They want us out of "their country" and they are fomenting civil war to get what they want. They dream of a white, conservative, male-dominated utopia where they can enforce the right-wing Christian version of Sharia law. They deserve to be mocked by every intelligent, unselfish person in this country who is trying to do the right thing. Sometimes social pressure and shame are the only things that stop bullies from continuing their bad acts.

The anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers are selfish people who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. Fuck 'em all and let God sort them out.

[CrackityJones75]

52. You don't think their mocking is having an effect?

FFS they just laughed at a little kid who shared a story about his grandmother dying.

People rip Democrats for being too much of a pushover. Enough is enough. It is time to ridicule, belittle and put these shitbirds in their place. They need to be public enemy number 1. Shunned from society. Looked at as interrupters of our way of life.

If we aren’t willing to call out this shit right now. Then When? Come on. Enough is enough. Stop shaming people for standing up to these bullies and giving them a taste of their own medicine. It is the ONLY thing they understand.

[Wounded Bear]

15. As I have often said: They declared war on us...

and I hate to use the "us vs them" terminology, but they separated themselves from us for ideological reasons and for love of the Orange idol.

[Kev80]

34. So true.

I’m an implant here from western PA for 27 years. Always been amazed at the low IQ level around here. A few more years and my wife (Pittsburgh) are getting the hell out of here when I retire. PA Dutch are some of the strangest people I’ve ever met and worked with.

[druidity33]

13. To each their own, right? nt.

[SergeStorms]

21. Not when you're trying....

to stop a pandemic that's soon to be heading into it's third year, simply because these right-wing nuts won't do the few things that absolutely do work in controlling the spread of the disease.

"To each their own" is not a cohesive strategy in fighting a pandemic.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

27. Agree 100%

I cringe to think where our country would be if previous generations showed the same selfish spoiled attitude towards health crises that ours is showing towards COVID-19. Fuck being nice and accommodating towards these people; many of them would gleefully try to hurt us or even kill us if they thought they could get away with it.

[SergeStorms]

33. Amen, Professor!

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

36. Back at ya, Serge!

[druidity33]

35. Huh?

I meant whether you enjoy the Rude Pundit's style or not. Some people don't like the profanity...

[SergeStorms]

38. And I'm supposed to know that...

how, exactly?

The discussion was COVID treatment, not the Rude One's writing style.

Whatever. Have a good one.

[druidity33]

41. Well shoot...

i was responding to the first post in the thread which stated:

"There's a lot of space between lacking empathy and mocking the dying.
Even if they are dying because they made bad decisions."

I could have been more clear, it's true. But a lot of people seem to pop up on Rude threads to oppose what he says because of how he says it.

[SergeStorms]

42. Got it.

Sometimes our eyes send the wrong information to our brains, then to our fingers.

[Equomba]

46. My empathy is for those who have

lost loved ones due to the lack of same from the anit-vaxxers. For health care workers who are at wits ends but show up the next day to yet again treat these rancid, disgusting, worthless pieces of fucking human garbage who have "issues".

For those who are losing their incomes due to the decline in our economy. For parents of school-age children who have to fight off the unvaccinated parents of their child's peer group who yell at their kids. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

Capiche?

[SYFROYH]

47. Sure, I understand. I have empathy for them too.

Capiche?

[SYFROYH]

48. Sure, I understand. I have empathy for them too.

Empathy does have to be a zero sum game.


Capiche?

[Equomba]

49. You know, I was going to edit out the Capiche?

after posting, after the fact I see it's a bit on the strong side, which was not my intention.

So to you I say, mi scusi!

[ProfessorGAC]

50. There's No "H"

Not wanting to be a jerk, but it's capisce. The first person version (I understand) is capisco.
If there was an "H", it would be pronounced ka-pees-kay". "CH" is pronounced like a "k" in Italian.
I'm not fluent, but I can readily communicate in Italy.
Good thing, too. I've been there forty-something times!

[Equomba]

53. Hey, if it's good enough for Cartman, then good enough for me!

It does appear to be a common English spelling, or misspelling if you must. Regardless, 40+ visits to Italy is remarkable. I've been there twice but would love to visit again, assuming that is even going to be possible going forward. Just the other day we were reminiscing about our trip to Sicily. We rented a car and traveled from Palermo to Taormina, which was probably the highlight of our visit... such a great place!

[ProfessorGAC]

54. I've Never Been South Of Naples

And, the bad part is families are from Calabria (near Reggio) & Sicily (near Messina).
I was always there on business, but I always arranged my work schedule to have a free day.
Work four 12-13 hour days, take Friday for myself. Fly home Saturday morning.
So, I got to see many places where tourists don't go and eat some fantastic meals.
But, never visited family.

[2naSalit]

4. K&R

[Harker]

5. We're past hesitancy.

It's refusal.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Hard to have empathy for people who are trying to kill you.

[gab13by13]

7. That's what I was trying to say, thank you.

[Botany]

8. You can blah, blah, all fucking day trying to fluff that sympathy cock into a full-blown erection.

He is so rude. But he is right.


Citing studies showing that 15% of Americans believe QAnon conspiracies and 22% self-identify as anti-vaxxers, the CNBC piece describes the special challenges posed to educators "by the combination of misinformation on social media and a growing population of duped and radicalized parents."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215830924

[czarjak]

9. "Fuck your feelings" wasn't a one-way street?

[Wounded Bear]

16. How can it ever be? nt

[Farmer-Rick]

10. It's called shame-shaming

The right wing Covid-19 deniers are trying to shame those of us who are shaming them with jokes and insensitivity about their own stupidity.

So, the Covid-19 deniers think they can make us all ashamed of the fact that we are shaming the deniers. Shame-shaming.

[gab13by13]

22. Nope, it doesn't matter

if you talk nice to Magats or are rude to them, their responses are always the same, they are right and you are wrong. Using logic with them is illogical.

[Farmer-Rick]

25. Oh I agree

But I like the redundancy.

So, can you shame the shame-shamer?

Or can you shame the shamer of the shame-shamer

What about shaming the shamer of the shamer of the shame-shamer

And on and on.........

[Joinfortmill]

11. Yup. It's what you said.

[The Wizard]

12. Anyone taking medical advice

from Tucker Carlson instead of medical professionals needs to be put in a FEMA isolation camp. And yes, Pox News endangers all of us with their calculated political propaganda. Any other deliberate threat to the health and general well being of the American people is treated as a crime. Pox News is a continuing criminal enterprise subject to RICO laws.

[2Gingersnaps]

14. Here's a new one on me.

I was just told what a complete moron I am for not buying into a conspiracy theory where the Beatles were created by a social engineering group "Tavistock Institute" out of England funded by the Rockefeller's in 1948 to destroy the social fabric of Western culture. Complete with Illuminati and such. That's what I get for listening to Rachel Maddow. I am such a sheep, totally asleep.

I have spent the better part of my life believing what my sweet little Sunday School teacher taught me. Passive resistance to bad mannered people. Um, sorry folks, that does not work. Rude is right. There is no playing nice with a bully. They understand one thing, the need to overpower, the need to dominate. Paradox of tolerance territory.

[Hugin]

17. I ran into this reading an article yesterday...

The quote went something like... The problem is the vaccinated overestimating their chances of getting the virus and the unvaccinated underestimating it.

I was like, "Look, lady. Nobody ever died from overestimating their chances of getting a deadly disease."

Talk about soft-pedaling a crisis and smearing the paste of the willfully ignorant on those who fucking know better.

I had to take a break for a couple of hours.

[maxsolomon]

30. It's true, though. The odds of getting a breakthrough are 1 in 5000 on average.

1 in 10,000 in high-vaccinated areas. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/07/briefing/risk-breakthrough-infections-delta.html

I'm quite aware that the vaccinated are being overcautious. We were doing that even before the vaccines: washing our groceries, obsessively hand sanitizing, masking outdoors in the middle of a park. I still see people doing that.

Hell, I haven't eaten indoors in a restaurant in Seattle in 18 months. My wife is one of the overcautious.

Everyone wants it to be over, but only 1 group is stopping that: the unvaccinated.

[Hugin]

39. Yep...

It's not the overcautious who are keeping this thing going. You are correct, but, all of the browbeating from the media should be reserved for the willfully unvaccinated.

[Jimbo S]

51. I agree with the article

As an amateur mathematician, I'm almost daily studying the numbers.

The Trumpsters make me furious. No need to explain to this board.

But some on the left and some media make me cringe (not furious) about the talk of super-spreader events, GQP voters dying off, etc.

[lillypaddle]

18. Preach, Bro!

[niyad]

19. Spot on, RP.

[Texaswitchy]

20. I agree..

I am so over these people.

Damn.

I mock them.

More and more of us will.

Anybody who would take horse paste over a vaccine deserves it.

[gab13by13]

23. Fuck, some of them drank Clorox.

They still believe that hydrochloroxidine works. Misspelling intentional.

[Texaswitchy]

24. I used to be a nicer person.

No longer.

The virus and these fools have taken it away.

To much as happened now to ever give a damn about those people.

Our cross country trip was cancelled because of this.


My Grandkids and Mom are moving to Canada because of this.

Now my house mate needs surgery and can't get it because these idiots are taken up all the hospital beds .

No more sympathy from me.

I am one of many.

[Javaman]

26. what gets me is...

they don't believe that covid is real, but yet they take the horse paste so they won't get covid.

[Tommymac]

29. Infantile minds in adult bodies.

Thanks Raygun for ruining public education.

Thanks fucknut conservative religious right crazies for making your home schooled kids functional idiots.

Thanks Mainstream Right Wing Media for playing the both sides meme and obscuring Reality and Truth and killing people for ratings and $$$$$$.

Thanks 1% for funding all these fucked up things just so you can play with your stupid toys.

[malaise]

31. Same here Rudie!

Cain them!

[The Unmitigated Gall]

32. sorryantivaxxer.com you can go on there and read

Some of the utterly disdainful comments these people posted, sometimes in their final days. The hatred and contempt for this monolithic “Left” they perceive is palpable.

[johnnyfins]

37. Always loved this gem...

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

Isaac Asimov

[Missn-Hitch]

40. The Atlantic posted something on FB along the lines of "quit mocking the dying"....

My simple reply: No.

[ymetca]

44. There's something weirdly S&M about all this...

I suppose once you see your god nailed to a cross with a crown of thorns, and not understand that it was ignorance that killed him, then somehow it all gets twisted into wanting to do the same thing to someone else, even if it winds up killing you instead.

[calimary]

45. I LOVE His Rudeness. Just LOVE his stuff!!!

Read the whole essay to my husband, who heartily agrees.