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senseandsensibility

(17,000 posts)
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:10 PM Sep 2021

Tale of Two Unions--I wonder why they're treated differently?

There are 2 enormous groups of unionized workers who work directly with the public and should be vaccinated.

One is mostly male and the majority of its members refuse vaccination. One is mostly female and the VAST majority, upwards of 90% ARE already vaccinated.

Obviously, one of these unions needs some major mandates to get them vaccinated, and the others should be praised, but mandated to do a little better to get to 100%.

The coordinator for Covid Response under the Biden administration was just on CNN. He was not shy at all about bragging about mandating the mostly female union (which again, is almost completely voluntarily vaccinated already). He spent about a third of his speaking time on that subject.

He did not mention the mostly male union which is doing MUCH worse in vaccinating its members.

Gosh, I wonder why.

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Tale of Two Unions--I wonder why they're treated differently? (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 2021 OP
Let me guess: teachers and cops. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #1
Yes! And there is no good reason for this. senseandsensibility Sep 2021 #3
I will say that I don't know if the 90% figure is right or not dsc Sep 2021 #2
This is a national number, so I'm sure it varies. senseandsensibility Sep 2021 #4
my point is the feds aren't asking dsc Sep 2021 #5
Both the Biden official and Erin Burnett cited the 90% senseandsensibility Sep 2021 #6
One possible and very simple reason: StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #7

senseandsensibility

(17,000 posts)
3. Yes! And there is no good reason for this.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:35 PM
Sep 2021

The mostly male union is treated with kid gloves, but the better vaccinated female union is held up as an example of poor vaccination? Actually, it's worse than kid gloves. They are not mentioned so as not to piss them off.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
2. I will say that I don't know if the 90% figure is right or not
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:31 PM
Sep 2021

I am a teacher, and I am vaccinated, but there is no way the feds would know that about me or anyone else at my school since we weren't asked. I also am quite sure we aren't 90% vaccinated. We are better than our county likely but not 90%.

senseandsensibility

(17,000 posts)
4. This is a national number, so I'm sure it varies.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:36 PM
Sep 2021

But the 90% figure does not surprise me in the least.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
5. my point is the feds aren't asking
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

so they can't know. From what I read the figure comes from a couple of surveys one of NEA members the other from AFT, both of those would have members more liberal than the typical teacher. My guess is we are significantly better than our surrounding areas but that the national figure isn't 90

senseandsensibility

(17,000 posts)
6. Both the Biden official and Erin Burnett cited the 90%
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:48 PM
Sep 2021

figure, so apparently they accept it as legit. However, my larger point is that the male union has a much worse vaccination rate and is not to be criticized for some reason. Total double standard. And the reason for this is sexism.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. One possible and very simple reason:
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:59 PM
Sep 2021

The federal government has a lot more control over schools and teachers by virtue of billions of dollars in federal funding that fund local education and provide a "hook" for federal mandates over teachers and schools while the federal government has considerably less ability to impose mandates on police departments because it does not provide as much funding and much of the funding comes through grants that don't create the same relationship.

I don't know for sure that that is the reason, but I suspect that it is.

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