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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:28 AM Sep 2021

Vaccine & masks should be a requirement of the law..just like "seat belts" are. It's simple..

... When seat belts were "freedom" deals....then there were about 50,000 deaths on the highways...
...Now seat belts are the law in most states...(if not all) and a huge number of lives are saved...
Approximately 55,000 deaths before laws passed in 79....Now 35,000 deaths on highways due to
seat belt laws...Yes, people did not want to "buckle up" at first...but when it became "state laws"...then
the numbers went down..Keep in mind...35,000 deaths...down around 40 percent from 79, with ...
double the cars, and 100,000,000, more people, and 60 million more cars...


....Yes, people didn't want to "buckle up" at first..but now everyone does it...Why?...because it prevents death, and
word got around of people who had seat belts on that would have died if they didn't.(especially now that the
seat belts have shoulder harnesses as well as the air bags that are also the law in the front seats)...At first people
didn't want to pay extra, but now it is the law, and people who buy the cars don't even think of the cost of safety
devises when they buy a car, old or used..

....Why...By Now they all have seat belts and air bags... and yes they saved lives every year..(see first paragraph)..

Make masks the law...and save lives even if people don't want ....the freedom to save their own lives...Make it the law..
and watch the death numbers go down...Fuck the Freedom Anti Maskers...They are too stupid to make that decision, as
were the anti-seat belt assholes...Now everyone or most put them on automatically...You just do it...And since parents
wanted their kids to put them on, now everyone puts them on...Kids are now adults, and you put it on automatically...

...Like masks will become...No it ain't rocket science...It's save your life science...Yes I repeat a lot, many people
do....But when the polio vaccine came out, there were no anti-polio vaccine idiots..Now polio is eradicated in the U.S....as
is small pox...Most people don't know but there were millions of small pox deaths around 1920 or few years before
and after...You got to have small pox vaccine to go to most grammar schools in the U.S.A....It is the law and it works

NO SMALL POX EPIDEMICS IN THE U.S.A...iS THAT CORRECT?...NO POLIO EPIDEMICS EITHER?...iS THAT CORRECT?
..............I wonder why..?...

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unblock

(52,196 posts)
1. No, not like seat belts. That's far too kind.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:47 AM
Sep 2021

Not wearing a seat belt will pretty much always affect only the idiot who doesn't wear one (or in my case, the poor fool in the back of a cab that didn't have any)

Yes, loved ones and insurance rates and so on, but directly, it only affects the one person.

And yes, they lost that argument long ago.


But with a *communicable* disease, they're affecting other people as well. If they want the freedom to not wear a mask and not get the vaccine, they need to quarantine themselves so they don't cause harm to others. But of course, they don't quarantine, they go out and expose others to potentially lethal consequences of the biological terrorism that they insist on mistakenly calling "freedom"

There is not freedom to infect.

These people need to be treated as terrorists, as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They are pro-virus agents. If the virus could recruit people to further its war on humans, it would recruit people to do *exactly* what these right-winters are doing. Opposing every protective measure, and going out seeking the virus and trying to spread it to others.

That's not like not wearing a seat belt. It's more like walking into a crowd wearing a suicide bomb and a dead man's switch.

Which, if a republican actually did, they probably call "freedom", too.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. Well Said....Kinda like yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater to see what happens...(That is
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:58 AM
Sep 2021
totally against the law...courts have ruled that it is)

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
3. Ironically, one of Trump's superfans was killed in a wreck because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:49 AM
Sep 2021

Just finished reading Michael Bender's book. He followed some of Trump's Front Row Joes throughout and one of the leaders was killed in a wreck on the way home from a Trump rally. Killed when he was ejected from the vehicle.


Passionate 'Front Row Joe' Trump supporter dies in highway crash near St. Peter

Source: Star Tribune

A southwestern Minnesota man whose passionate support for President Donald Trump took him to dozens of political events around the country and recently to the White House was killed in a highway crash while returning from a political celebration in Florida.

Randal J. Thom, 60, of Lakefield died in a collision shortly before 4:30 p.m. Monday on Hwy. 169 north of St. Peter, the State Patrol said. Thom was driving his minivan south and hit a pickup truck that also was heading south, the patrol said.

Evidence of recent alcohol use by Thom was detected at the scene, according to the patrol. Thom was not wearing a seat belt, the patrol added.

The other driver, James A. Mollenhauer, 67, of nearby Le Sueur, survived his injuries and was taken to a Mankato hospital.

https://www.startribune.com/passionate-front-row-joe-trump-supporter-dies-in-highway-crash-near-st-peter/572804072/




According to Bender the "evidence of recent alcohol use" was numerous unopened cans of beer in the wreckage. Thom's FRJ buddies think they were just what was left in his cooler as he drove home.

Beetwasher.

(2,970 posts)
4. No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service!
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:04 AM
Sep 2021

Where the fuck were all these people for the past god knows how many years since businesses have been infringing on their freedoms to NOT wear shirts and shoes? Why have they not been up and arms all along about that?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Governments have mandated contagious disease controls for millennia.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:07 AM
Sep 2021

They were written into the laws colonists brought from Britain and other countries and then codified into our new legal systems. At some point this was challenged, and our high court was called on to affirm that our governments have the authority and duty to protect public health.

The only thing new here is the RW's politicized resistance and depraved indifference to life.

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