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Demovictory9

(32,421 posts)
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 07:36 AM Sep 2021

Andrew Yang no longer a Democrat, will launch third party




Andrew Yang no longer a Democrat, will launch third party

Andrew Yang, who unsuccessfully sought the presidency and the New York City mayoralty as a Democrat, will launch a third party next month — an announcement tied to the publication of his new book, a source close to Yang confirmed to The Post.

The move by Yang, best known for his advocacy of a monthly universal basic income of $1,000 for every American adult, was first reported by Politico Thursday.

Yang’s new book “Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy” comes out on Oct. 5.

The tome, published by Penguin Random House subsidiary Crown, is billed as “a powerful and urgent warning that we must step back from the brink and plot a new way forward for our democracy” and promises to identify “‘priests of the decline’ of America, including politicians whose incentives have become divorced from the people they supposedly serve,” according to an online description.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/andrew-yang-no-longer-a-democrat-will-launch-third-party/
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Andrew Yang no longer a Democrat, will launch third party (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2021 OP
Ok , well , he is off my list... apcalc Sep 2021 #1
I'm getting tired of these giant egos dominating politics for the sake of power Walleye Sep 2021 #2
. . . and celebrity empedocles Sep 2021 #6
Isn't that the truth. harumph Sep 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #3
Interesting Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #4
He never came off as genuine to me. lkinwi Sep 2021 #5
Agreed. Superficial is a word that describes him. OnDoutside Sep 2021 #10
This is a strange story PJMcK Sep 2021 #7
and his background story of business success was a bit shaky also. I'm not sure what Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #17
He's trying to sell a book. JoanofArgh Sep 2021 #9
I'd like to see his donor list . . . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #11
His UBI plan was garbage to begin with. Crowman2009 Sep 2021 #12
Especially because the second half of his UBI was left unspoken Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #33
What we do need is a living wage, along with better savings bond & CD rates so people won't... Crowman2009 Sep 2021 #40
How utterly unsurprising. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #13
Have to say this one more time. Hillary Clinton had a plan called "Alaska for America." betsuni Sep 2021 #14
THIS! Elect Democrats, and we will have a UBI. It's become Hortensis Sep 2021 #28
Who? 2naSalit Sep 2021 #15
SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIND A F'ING HOBBY HAB911 Sep 2021 #16
or a 9 to 5 job Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #20
I think Yang is not rich enough to build his own rocket. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #34
too bad HAB911 Sep 2021 #37
Originally, I liked him. Not enough to consider for president, but I liked his ideas. bearsfootball516 Sep 2021 #18
Bored with money.. jcgoldie Sep 2021 #19
is he rich? Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #21
He's not rich Sympthsical Sep 2021 #30
So, he lost an election and now he's taking his Bettie Sep 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Sep 2021 #23
Andrew yang was never a Democrat, He was always about Andrew yang. bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #24
The Dems Are Going To Have Enough On Their Hands Beating The Repugs That Are Rigging.... global1 Sep 2021 #25
Who cares? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #26
Not to be trusted. Not to be validated. Not then not now. (Nt) FreepFryer Sep 2021 #27
I will definitely be buying this book. I liked a lot of what he had to say during the campaign Autumn Sep 2021 #29
Could have some effect Sympthsical Sep 2021 #31
Who? Johonny Sep 2021 #32
He's making a big mistake FakeNoose Sep 2021 #35
Now he is officially a nobody dalton99a Sep 2021 #36
The Nader/Stein Party? Dawson Leery Sep 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #39
Who cares? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #41
Anyone who remembers how Ralph Nader siphoned off votes Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #42

apcalc

(4,462 posts)
1. Ok , well , he is off my list...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 07:45 AM
Sep 2021

Tho I may support some ideas that he supports, we Democrats need to stick together and go forward together.

Do we need another George Bush or Donald Trump elected?

Aw, it hurts to think how much better off we would be had Gore and H. Clinton been elected.

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PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
7. This is a strange story
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sep 2021

Andrew Yang, a man who has never held elective office, first thought he was qualified to be President of the U.S. and then Mayor of New York City. In both cases, he lost spectacularly.

Now, Mr. Yang believes he has the following and leadership skills to form a competitive political party.

To that kind of perspective, I can only say, "Wow."

Demovictory9

(32,421 posts)
17. and his background story of business success was a bit shaky also. I'm not sure what
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:11 AM
Sep 2021

propelled him into those early leads for president and major.. suddenly i was hearing his name everywhere.

Crowman2009

(2,490 posts)
12. His UBI plan was garbage to begin with.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:02 AM
Sep 2021

Looked more like crumbs for the masses that was insufficient to live on.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,550 posts)
33. Especially because the second half of his UBI was left unspoken
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:52 AM
Sep 2021

The full Yang plan was “you get $1000 a month…and absolutely no other government assistance or benefits

No food stamps, no SSI, no Medicaid, nothing. You’re supposed to use your thousand bucks to buy healthcare on the open market. And food. And rent, without subsidies.

That’s how his UBI was paid for- by cutting other government programs.

Crowman2009

(2,490 posts)
40. What we do need is a living wage, along with better savings bond & CD rates so people won't...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:26 PM
Sep 2021

...have to rely on wall street for their retirement. This is in addition to what you mentioned earlier; SSI, Medicaid, food stamps, etc. I also what I non-military government employment option for people who want money for an education, but don't want to enlist. Sort of like the CCC.

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
14. Have to say this one more time. Hillary Clinton had a plan called "Alaska for America."
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:06 AM
Sep 2021

A fund to use revenue from shared national resources to pay a dividend to every citizen:

"Once you capitalize the fund, you can provide every American with a modest basic income every year. Besides cash in people's pockets, it would also be a way of making every American feel more connected to our country and to one another -- part of something bigger than ourselves. ... Unfortunately, we couldn't make the numbers work. To provide a meaningful dividend to every citizen, you'd have to raise enormous sums of money, and that would either mean a lot of new taxes or cannibalizing other important programs. We decided it was exciting but not realistic, and left it on the shelf. That was the responsible decision."

But populists don't care if things are possible. They just make promises they can't keep. Power goes to a person's head.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. THIS! Elect Democrats, and we will have a UBI. It's become
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:04 AM
Sep 2021

both possible due to enormous wealth production and necessary as the nature of work changes.

I like the Alaska for America model. And Democrats know other ways to add to it.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
18. Originally, I liked him. Not enough to consider for president, but I liked his ideas.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:16 AM
Sep 2021

He's quickly gone down the path of being an opportunist and grifter.

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
30. He's not rich
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:28 AM
Sep 2021

Because he was in tech, the media kept reporting on him as if he was loaded.

Guy is only worth something like $2-$3 million.

Better than average, but hardly hanging out on yachts all day.

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global1

(25,224 posts)
25. The Dems Are Going To Have Enough On Their Hands Beating The Repugs That Are Rigging....
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 09:31 AM
Sep 2021

things around the country in order to cheat their way back into power.

We can't have Yang and a 3rd Party attempt cause another hole in the boat that the Dems need to plug. We need every vote we can muster to maintain and even pick up seats in both the House & Senate - without having to worry that Yang is going to siphon some votes off with his ego.

So in my opinion - the Dems need to get to Yang now and do everything they can to keep him from proceeding with this 3rd Party.

If they have to offer him some job in the Dem Party or an Ambassadorship - so be it. But this needs to be done soon.

Sure he didn't do well in his presidential or mayoral bids - but he did have a following - and a young following at that.

It's not hard to believe that though he has no chance in hell building any kind of power base for a new 3rd Party - he will create some sort of following that might engage disgruntled voters (those that are fed up with both the Repugs and the Dems).

This needs to be stopped before it gets started and the Dems need to get on this right now. STAT!!!!

Autumn

(44,980 posts)
29. I will definitely be buying this book. I liked a lot of what he had to say during the campaign
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:22 AM
Sep 2021

and I look forward to reading his view of the decline of America. Plus I want to see if his "priests of the decline of America" are the same ones that I think have contributed to the decline.

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
31. Could have some effect
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:34 AM
Sep 2021

The current incarnation of our party has no idea how to speak to Millennials and our issues. Screaming at us and being dismissive seems to be the preferred method.

Yang actually addresses a lot of what we care and think about, while the old guard sticks their heads in the sand. For example, he was the only one out there warning during the 2020 campaign talking about automation and how the economy will change by the 2030s. That's a large part of why UBI will become a serious issue in the future.

He thinks mid-term, and that's attractive.

We'll see. If it gets our party discussing this stuff, that'd be nice.

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