The Federalist supports vaccine mandates!

[Dawson Leery]

...back in 2015.

Link to tweet

The Cons have no principles.

[FBaggins]

1. That's not a support for a vaccine mandate

Certainly not for a federal one.

It clearly assumes that you can choose not to vaccinate. But that schools/businesses can choose not to do business with you if you do.

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. That's what a vaccine mandate is - a condition of service, employment or attendance

A vaccine mandate does not mean someone is physically held down and forced to receive an injection, it means if you choose not to be vaccinated, you give up your job, or will be refused service or admittance to an event.

So the Federalist’s (surprising) statement is aligned with both Biden’s orders and the push for private employers to require vaccines as a condition of employment.

[FBaggins]

3. No it isn't

You can argue over how to pronounce "tomato" if you like. But there's nothing in that post demonstrating support for the federal government to require businesses to do anything. Nor even for the state to do so (though I doubt they would object since that has been pretty clear for a century now).

If you can't see a bright line between "able" and "forced" I can't help you.

[CrackityJones75]

4. Why are we even talking about a mandate anyway?

If the definition of a mandate is what you say it is then Biden didn’t give a mandate.

So it seems to me that the federalist stance is in line with what Biden has said.

[FBaggins]

5. How so?

My understanding is that he's requiring all federal employees to get vaccinated and all private employers to require a specific vaccination/testing regime.

To the extent that both the federalist stance and the president advocate that everyone should get vaccinated, I suppose that's pretty clear. But allowing public/private institutions to discriminate on the basis of vaccination status is very different from requiring them to do so. And nowhere close to the federal government doing it (against longstanding legal opinions that states have the power to do so but the federal government doesn't)

[CrackityJones75]

6. Public/private institutions are at will employment.

Of course they can discriminate based on vax status.

Also under work safety they can require businesses to require them. OSHA is a thing.

[FBaggins]

8. Which is what the federalist was saying

It has nothing to do with Biden’s mandate that is not based on business’ own decisions.

Also under work safety they can require businesses to require them. OSHA is a thing.

Just like the CDC is a thing.

Not a single reputable source agreed with your statement (including the president) until about 15 seconds ago. And not one will about 15 seconds from now.

States can (and probably should) do this all day long. The federal government does not have police powers like the states.

[former9thward]

7. That tweet does not support mandates.

It says an employer should be able to discriminate against employees if they choose based on their vaccination status. Nothing about a mandate.