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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI finally have a "vaccine passport".
The pharmacy that administered the Moderna shots for me recommended an app called CLEAR, about a day before Biden's latest announcement about vaccine mandates. Did the pharmacy perhaps know beforehand what was going to happen?
It was very easy since the pharmacy gave me a QR code to forward to CLEAR, with all of the vaccination information encrypted within it, instead of me needing to take a picture of my CDC vaccination card. According to reviews of the CLEAR app, people who instead took pics of their CDC cards were complaining that the app wasn't approving them despite how they were supposedly legitimate vaccination cards.
After it was done, I then noticed that CLEAR was barely used by any airlines, restaurants and entertainment venues except along the coasts! As usual, the Midwestern USA (where I live) was backwards in comparison. So I figured that the app would ultimately be useless for me.
However, Biden's announcement also applies to large entertainment venues across the country! It's strongly recommended that they require vaccine checks before allowing entry, anyway.
Article about it:
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/8266041002
So maybe my new vaccine passport will actually get used by me someday?
By the way, I'm so proud of President Biden announcing stronger measures to get more people vaccinated! He's getting lots of flak from right-wingers, of course, but Biden doesn't give a damn!
He's reminding me of FDR, who welcomed their hatred!
spooky3
(34,452 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I stopped looking up various "vaccine passport" stuff a few months ago, figuring that it just wasn't going to happen.
There's different ones being used, or affiliated with, various airlines.
A TSA requirement would be better, since it would be universal.
Here's a review of some of the vaccine passports out there:
https://www.insider.com/best-vaccine-passport-apps?amp
spooky3
(34,452 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I'm not sure about Global Entry though. Probably NOT.
Customs and Border protection have to let us return regardless of vax status. They can detain and question, but once it's determined you aren't breaking any laws and you are a US citizen, you can come home regardless.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Seems like a good idea
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)The app that I'm using accepts pics of CDC cards too, but it supposedly rejects many of them. Or it's a long delay until they're accepted.
The QR code directly from the pharmacy was accepted by them instantly.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)folks who don't have phones (e.g. children, elderly, lower income...)
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I still wish we had something like a driver's license instead, with the vaccination status, photo ID and the security measures to prevent faking them.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)Yes, I'm "elderly" and just can't be bothered with the new-fangled stuff.
Also, those in long-term facilities who go out occasionally with family need a vaccine "passport". Are these at all available for those individuals?
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)I needed a covid test every step of the way, but no one cared if I was vaccinated or wanted to see my vaccination card. i look forward to the day I can show a QR code on my phone instead of dealing with the inconvenience and expense of testing.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... vaccine passports definitely seem like the most convenient way of managing it!
I think it's going to be more commonplace soon.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)tritsofme
(17,377 posts)I had first used it for a Blackhawks game this spring, but at that time it was only used for a health screening questionnaire.
I linked my vaccine information through the app last week, it was very easy. One thing I noticed is that the face verification doesnt work well without good lighting, it could be a problem depending on where it is used.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... until I did it under a very bright LED light that I put in a hallway.
And I had to take pictures of a photo ID (my driver's license) too, which I failed to mention in my post. That might bother some people, but not me. My SS number is not on the license, or I might've had more qualms about it.
EDIT: By the way, I did notice a few places in the Midwest were using it. Chicago is more advanced than most places in the Midwest, so that's not too surprising.
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)It seems like unlocking it once might keep it open for a couple hours, but not permanently.
I didnt have to put DL information, (unless I did it in spring and dont remember?) but was able to link my vaccine info through connecting to my Walgreens account, so it was super easy.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... to compare them to my CDC card, and everything matched as I expected (such as the lot numbers).
It wouldn't let me see that information again without a face verification, though! So I walked into my sunlight-like hallway again, and it was verified fast.
Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)I've saved mine as a PDF on my phone in case I need to show proof I'm double-jabbed. Not that it's likely right now, as for the first time in over a year Canberra's in lockdown and I'm not travelling anywhere until over 80% of the population has had their second jab
Clearly that image isn't my vaccination certificate. I got astra
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Almost everything in the USA varies, depending on where you live and such.
Many things are managed at the state-level instead, such as the vaccination records. EVERY state keeps a record of the Covid vaccines administered to people in those states, and many Americans don't even know that's been done! So there's people who think that the only record of their Covid vaccinations is a paper CDC card, which is easy to fake, but there's various health departments all over the country who have their vaccination records too.
Well, some places like NYC keep the records at the city-level instead of New York State. But the ID's of the vaccinated have mostly been submitted to the state governments. (New Hampshire was the only state not doing it months ago, but they started keeping records of the immunizations in their state in April.)
In my state of Ohio, I don't think the vaccine information is available unless a request letter is written to them or whatever.
Yep, it says that the request form must be mailed to them! Ugh.
https://www.ohiopublichealthreporting.info/Enrollment/FileSystem/HL7/Public_Instructions_to_access_ImpactSIIS_record.pdf
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You must mail:
o The ODH Authorization to Release form with your original signature. A copy, fax, or email will not be accepted.
Please make sure you indicate your current mailing address on the Authorization to Release form. o A photocopy of a government-issued ID with your signature, to be compared to the signature on
the form.
Please note: An Authorization to Release form is only good for one request. If you are requesting information for a spouse or a dependent, you wlll need to fill out a second form and provide supporting ID information for that individual.
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And the shot administrators are required to submit the ID's of the vaccine recipients to them, which is how it's being done throughout the whole country! Again, lots of people aren't even aware that's being done! If this information was centralized, like most countries would handle it, more people here would know about it.
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COVID-19 vaccine providers in Ohio are required to report patient information into the ImpactSIIS system
when the COVID-19 vaccine is administered. If you have received the COVID-19 vaccine in Ohio, your
information should be in the system.
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EDIT: And here's a source for all 50 states keeping records of the vaccinations, after New Hampshire followed suit. (Except the records are sometimes kept locally, like in NYC. We're always a hodgepodge of policies in the USA!)
https://www.concordmonitor.com/NH-gets-immunization-registry-2425913
N.H. is last state in the country to create a registry of peoples immunizations