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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,729 posts)
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:18 PM Sep 2021

MSNBC unearths clip of Joe Manchin calling for up to $4 trillion in infrastructure spending

It’s hard to understand what Joe Manchin is doing these days, other than forcing Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell to fight over who gets to loofah his undercarriage as he dithers in the bath over infrastructure spending. Of course, the real question is whether either of those two can loofah more lovingly than the fossil fuel industry, because just eight months ago, Manchin didn’t balk at $4 trillion in infrastructure spending—so it may just be that his recent concerns have more to do with what the money will be spent on than how much we spend.

To be fair, the budget reconciliation package the Democrats are hoping to pass over Manchin’s all-too-strident objections comes to $3.5 trillion. Along with the already passed (though still-unsigned) $1.2 billion bipartisan infrastructure bill, the total cost to the Treasury would be $4.7 trillion. But, hey, are we going to blow up America’s (and the world’s) hopes and dreams over $700 billion?

MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan recently unearthed a clip in which Manchin endorsed, all on his lonesome, an appropriately robust infrastructure investment—up to $4 trillion. And strangely enough, at the time, he wasn’t worried about inflation so much as the significant opportunity costs of not passing meaningful infrastructure legislation.

Watch:




https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/9/2051316/-MSNBC-unearths-clip-of-Joe-Manchin-calling-for-up-to-4-trillion-in-infrastructure-spending
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MSNBC unearths clip of Joe Manchin calling for up to $4 trillion in infrastructure spending (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Flipping the flop Champp Sep 2021 #1
Well, you know Dakota Flint Sep 2021 #19
Who got to you Joe? yonder Sep 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #3
the Repukes got to him. Trueblue1968 Sep 2021 #8
You know Rebl2 Sep 2021 #17
Deplorable change of heart dalton99a Sep 2021 #4
Must've been when trump was still president. brush Sep 2021 #5
It was this past January. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #18
this would make some nice tv ads in west virginia nt msongs Sep 2021 #6
Not really. If he can stop Biden from getting anything passed doc03 Sep 2021 #7
The infrastructure bill Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #10
...and West Virginia needs the money desperately Champp Sep 2021 #21
True! But "desperate need" means nothing to the cult. Grokenstein Sep 2021 #24
Who got to Manchin? BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #9
Spread ver 10 years! What's big deal when our troops are out Afghanistan and joetheman Sep 2021 #11
Manchin and Sinema are stealth GOP'ers. hadEnuf Sep 2021 #12
Before the Lobbyist wires hit his bank account Thrill Sep 2021 #13
Is it possible that he'll vote for it in the end, and is just trying to look tough for his Poiuyt Sep 2021 #14
He probably said this back when it simply sounded good and had no chance of happening Silent3 Sep 2021 #15
This past January. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #20
What changed? D-O-N-O-R-S. nt Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #16
More and more I am getting the feeling that Manchin is more worried about keeping his seat more cstanleytech Sep 2021 #22
Video like money, leaves an interesting trail. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2021 #23
And the rest of the media will ignore it. nt live love laugh Sep 2021 #25
 

Dakota Flint

(219 posts)
19. Well, you know
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:14 PM
Sep 2021

"That was then this is now"...Manchin is apparently a big Monkees fan...but he probably won't admit it.

Response to yonder (Reply #2)

brush

(53,740 posts)
5. Must've been when trump was still president.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 03:24 PM
Sep 2021

Manchin's positions change according to who he's talking to. This video can be useful for Speaker Pelosi and Schumer when dealing with Manchin.

SergeStorms

(19,182 posts)
18. It was this past January.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:13 PM
Sep 2021

TFG was still president (until 12:00 pm on the 20th) but Manchin knew the Orange Asshole was on the way out.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
24. True! But "desperate need" means nothing to the cult.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:00 PM
Sep 2021

As long as everyone else is miserable and dying, they're fine with their own suffering, etc. etc. etc.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
11. Spread ver 10 years! What's big deal when our troops are out Afghanistan and
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 04:27 PM
Sep 2021

we need to turn out attention to manufacturing again, climate change, and cyber crimes? Spread over 10 years it's not as much as Trump's tax cut in one year.

We have to do what is necessary for TODAY...tomorrow will take care of itself AND it isn't promised to anyone.

Poiuyt

(18,113 posts)
14. Is it possible that he'll vote for it in the end, and is just trying to look tough for his
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 04:47 PM
Sep 2021

conservative constituents?

Silent3

(15,147 posts)
15. He probably said this back when it simply sounded good and had no chance of happening
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 04:49 PM
Sep 2021

Now that it could happen, especially in a way that doesn't favor fossil fuels, and does favor making big corporations and the rich pay for it... well, then, hold your horses!

SergeStorms

(19,182 posts)
20. This past January.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:18 PM
Sep 2021

So he decided to be anti-Biden sometime after Biden was sworn in? That doesn't make Manchin look too much like a Democrat, does it? That's right about the same time republicans decided all new spending was bad too.

cstanleytech

(26,224 posts)
22. More and more I am getting the feeling that Manchin is more worried about keeping his seat more
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:33 PM
Sep 2021

than anything else.

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