Manchin, Sanders set for clash over Biden spending package

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Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) are hurtling toward a showdown over President Biden's $3.5 trillion spending plan as they draw red lines around their legislative priorities.

The two veteran lawmakers are at opposite ends of the Senate Democratic Caucus, with no close working relationship and some high-profile public splits in their past.

But the White House and Democratic leaders will need to figure out a way to bring them together, and satisfy their contradictory demands, or suffer a massive defeat of the party's top goals.

"They really do mirror each other in terms of representing different ends of the Democratic coalition. ... They're kind of avatars of like the two wings of the Democratic Party," said Democratic strategist Joel Payne.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-sanders-set-for-clash-over-biden-spending-package/ar-AAOigLf

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1. I'd like to see a broadcast debate between these two on the topic

If they're "set for clash" why not make it as public as possible? At minimum, shows how non-monolithic the Democrats are on the subject of government spending.

[questionseverything]

2. Manchin represents high dollar donors while Bernie represents regular people

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The people of West Virginia need to let manchin know they need and want the child credit and the extended senior benefits like being able to see, hear and chew

[George II]

7. Manchin doesn't represent "high dollar donors", he represents the people of West Virginia.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Im not worried - Sanders, Schumer and Biden are a great team

Schumer has said “full speed ahead” in a not-so-subtle fuck you to Manchin’s demand for a “pause” in the process, so I’m not expecting any last minute cave ins like with the ACA.

Like the Cheese in the nursery rhyme, Manchin will stand alone, stinking, as he sweats out whether he is willing to single handedly destroy Biden’s agenda.

I don’t think he has the guts to do it. AFAIK, the biggest legislation Manchin has previously sabotaged was a gun control bill after Sandy Hook. Otherwise, he has voted with the Dems on all crucial votes. His more troubling votes (Kavanaugh) have come when the GOP was in the majority.

All his headline grabbing statements, op-eds and leaks from anonymous No Labels sources have been desperate attempts to craft a media narrative that we can’t afford this bill and it will crash the economy with runaway inflation, a laughable claim easily refuted. So far, none of the other Blue Dogs, save for perhaps Sinema, have shown any waffling on support of the bill.

The reconciliation bill is a thousand times bigger and more important than the gun control bill he sabotaged- When it comes down to it, I think he will vote yes.

[BlueIdaho]

4. I have ZERO respect for Joe Manchin.

I have never seen him on the right side of any issue until some other Democrat has had to drag him kicking and screaming into line.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

5. Manchin knows he's in the catbird seat.

All he has to do is nothing and he controls Biden's entire agenda. That's a lot of power.

The thing I'm wondering, who is paying Joe to act like a Republican?

[PoliticAverse]

6. Sinema gets only one mention in the article? n/t