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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:40 PM Sep 2021

McCarthy asks Supreme Court to overturn House proxy voting rules

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) is asking the Supreme Court to overturn the House proxy voting protocols that were implemented last year as a pandemic precaution.

Driving the news: McCarthy issued a statement Thursday blasting the proxy voting protocols, which allow lawmakers who are not present to choose other members as proxies to cast their votes.

"Today, we are asking the Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution by overturning Speaker Pelosi’s perpetual proxy voting power grab," McCarthy said. "Although the Constitution allows Congress to write its own rules, those rules cannot violate the Constitution itself, including the requirement to actually assemble in person."

The House adopted the proxy voting protocols in May 2020 in a 217-189 vote along party lines.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mccarthy-asks-supreme-court-overturn-124550007.html

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McCarthy asks Supreme Court to overturn House proxy voting rules (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
You and what army, Kevin? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #1
Um... they will? FBaggins Sep 2021 #15
Everything is a power grab to these nutjobs.. secondwind Sep 2021 #2
From May 2020 - Republicans suffer embarrassing court defeat in proxy-voting case PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #3
Great find, with several more pertinent links in the article. crickets Sep 2021 #24
Is he stupid? wryter2000 Sep 2021 #4
He really is a stupid, stupid, stupid, ignorant man. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #5
Kevin McCarthy is stupid or ignorant or uneducated or senile ... or maybe all! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2021 #6
where Trump is a grandiose pathological liar agingdem Sep 2021 #14
Yep!!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2021 #21
Grandstanding, for MAGATS and MORANS. Auggie Sep 2021 #7
You beat me to it. grumpyduck Sep 2021 #10
You go first next time Auggie Sep 2021 #22
I'm not a lawyer but doesn't Congress make its own rules? And as long as the rules they set are ... Botany Sep 2021 #8
Seems like his 'case' is that it's not Constitutional Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #13
That's the question they're asking FBaggins Sep 2021 #16
but of course Patton French Sep 2021 #9
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2021 #28
Thank you! Patton French Oct 2021 #29
You're welcome gopiscrap Oct 2021 #30
What good is cheating to pack the courts unless they rurallib Sep 2021 #11
The Supremes won't touch House procedures. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #12
Seems like he will win. zaj Sep 2021 #17
The House no longer has a filibuster MagickMuffin Sep 2021 #25
I get it, but... zaj Sep 2021 #27
This is how Retrumplicans want this shit to work maxrandb Sep 2021 #18
But it was okay when you held the majority, right kev?....fuck you mccarthy spanone Sep 2021 #19
The GOP is the Party of Stunts. It is all they have. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #20
If you're whining, you're losing Generic Brad Sep 2021 #23
They can't just speak professionally... lame54 Sep 2021 #26

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
1. You and what army, Kevin?
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:42 PM
Sep 2021

Who’s going to enforce any SCOTUS ruling (if they dare to rule) on internal congressional processes and rules?

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
15. Um... they will?
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:40 PM
Sep 2021

If SCOTUS declares the practice unconstitutional (which I don’t expect) then any law that only passes with proxy votes can be overturned.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
24. Great find, with several more pertinent links in the article.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 08:58 PM
Sep 2021

Tidbit:

Indeed, though the system was intended to address the COVID crisis, some members -- including several far-right Republicans -- have apparently abused the temporary rules, voting by proxy while appearing at events such as the Conservative Political Action Conference. Kevin McCarthy and other GOP leaders -- the ones who literally made a federal case out of the temporary model -- said very little when their own members started taking advantage of the system.


To call Repubs hypocrites has become redundant. It's just a given.

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
4. Is he stupid?
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 05:45 PM
Sep 2021

The Supreme Court rules on existing cases. It doesn't make pronouncements from the bench. Even the 2000 fiasco was Bush v. Gore.

agingdem

(7,848 posts)
14. where Trump is a grandiose pathological liar
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:34 PM
Sep 2021

McCarthy is more of an inept moron spewing implausible hyperbolic bullshit...I see McCarthy as SNL's Pathological Liar jumping in front of a camera, lying his ass off, and shouting "yeah...that's the ticket!"...

Botany

(70,494 posts)
8. I'm not a lawyer but doesn't Congress make its own rules? And as long as the rules they set are ...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:02 PM
Sep 2021

... Constitutional it is up to the Congress and not the SCOTUS to set its OWN RULES.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. Seems like his 'case' is that it's not Constitutional
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:34 PM
Sep 2021

This SCOTUS in particular may very well rule that he's right that it's not, except in exceptional circumstances like a pandemic.

Then the question becomes 'who decides when is it over, and how'?

Which is, in turn, a question that I'd think the Court would not want to outline/define.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
11. What good is cheating to pack the courts unless they
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:09 PM
Sep 2021

do the party a couple of good turns?
constitution, shmonstitution - it is what we say it is! Right, Amy?, Brett?, Neil?, Sammy?, Clarence?

Ocelot II

(115,674 posts)
12. The Supremes won't touch House procedures.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:27 PM
Sep 2021

They've actually heard of the separation of powers doctrine even if Kevin hasn't - at least when it suits his purposes.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
17. Seems like he will win.
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:45 PM
Sep 2021

If it's unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional.

I have to think it is. I mean it destroys the whole idea of a talking filibuster.

MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
25. The House no longer has a filibuster
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 09:06 PM
Sep 2021


In the United States House of Representatives, the filibuster (the right to unlimited debate) was used until 1842, when a permanent rule limiting the duration of debate was created. The disappearing quorum was a tactic used by the minority until Speaker Thomas Brackett Reed eliminated it in 1890.


 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
27. I get it, but...
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 10:56 PM
Sep 2021

It's back on the table as a tool for reform, and it would kill these reform efforts.

Also, proxy voting is likely unconstitutional.

maxrandb

(15,322 posts)
18. This is how Retrumplicans want this shit to work
Fri Sep 10, 2021, 06:54 PM
Sep 2021

Donnie Dipshit actually thought the Supreme Court would install him as president.

One party no longer believes in a Democracy formed and outlined in a Constitution.

I'm surprised McCarthy just doesn't ask the Supremes to declare him King.

These are dangerous fucking people.

If they ever get back in power again, they won't surrender that power peacefully.

That should scare the fuck out if all of us.

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