One question I have about the 4 planes on 9/11? .

[OAITW r.2.0]

Were any of these commercial aircraft involved with Vigilant Guardian? Because, they were doing live simulations of hostile aircraft takeovers. That day. That would be odd if any / and or all were active participants. Or perhaps actively passive participants.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. If anyone has ever admitted to THAT, it would've been big news

So whether they were or not, I very much doubt it's ever been 'said', or I'm pretty dang sure I'd remember it.

I'm still inclined to believe the PA plane was shot down, for the record.

I also believe Hani Hanjour was a VERY skilled pilot, and I'd like to hear more about how he came to be that way.

[OAITW r.2.0]

2. Simple question, though. Why hasn't this been discussed?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. I'm not sure there HAD to be any real, actual commercial planes involved

It was an exercise.

Do you know the details of how such exercises 'work'?

I don't.

Ergo, I wouldn't assume this is a 'serious question' absent the knowledge that it must have, by necessity, involved commercial flights in the sky at the time.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

4. I doubt it, but I don't really know.

And like Lebowski wrote earlier, I also suspected that the 4th plane was shot down. The Dumbya team wouldn't want to admit it, though.

If it was indeed brought down by the passengers, then fine. It's not like I'm strongly vested in the idea of it being shot down.

Dumbya and his cronies were well-aware of the growing threat. There was even newspaper articles in my area about instructional seminars to prepare for an Islamic terrorist attack over here, months and weeks before 9/11, with Al-Qaeda mentioned the most. And those articles included quotes from people like Darth Cheney about it.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. There were only 4 interceptors guarding the USA on 9/11/01...according to Cheney.

[Ilsa]

8. At least one person in W's Cabinet stopped flying commercial

the month before. I think it was "Let the Eagles Fly" dude, I can't remember his name. I read it on a CBS news page.

[Ohio Joe]

6. No. No planes were involved in that exercise

It was (maybe still is) a semi-annual NORAD exercise. And no... NORAD was not involved in the 9/11 attacks.

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. Cite for the question asked and refuted?

AFAIK, the question has never been definitively addressed. Please link refutes!

[Ohio Joe]

9. Sheesh...

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/vigilant-guardian.htm

CT's go here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1135

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. 1st link is to a 1 paragrah decription of the exercise....in a most non-specific format.

Maybe more details behind the firewall?

[Ohio Joe]

11. It states it is a Command Post Exercise (CPX)

That is an exercise that is run on 'table top' and computers. Zero units... Planes, trains or automobiles are involved.

CT's go here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1135

[OAITW r.2.0]

12. Pretty sure there was a pilot communication asking if this was a "real world" situation

as opposed to an exercise. Do you remember that?

[Ohio Joe]

13. CT's go here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1135