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babsbunny

(8,441 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:18 PM Oct 2012

Third instance of voter registration dumping found in Virginia

By David Ferguson
Friday, October 19, 2012 14:24 EDT

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/third-instance-of-voter-registration-dumping-found-in-virginia/

A third instance of fraudulent voter registration has been uncovered in the important swing state of Virginia, where a Republican consultant has been arrested and thousands of discarded voter registration forms were recovered from a dumpster earlier this week. According to the Not Larry Sabato blog, a law student at James Madison University registered to vote on campus, but found when she tried to verify the change online, found that her form had never been submitted.

On Thursday, Raw Story reported that 31-year-old Colin Small, a Republican operative employed by Pinpoint, a firm contracted by Republican Party of Virginia, was arrested and charged with “four counts of destruction of voter registration applications, eight counts of disclosure of voter registration application, and one count of obstruction of justice” for throwing active voter registration forms into a dumpster.

Raw Story (http://s.tt/1qvXQ)

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Third instance of voter registration dumping found in Virginia (Original Post) babsbunny Oct 2012 OP
Where is the treason charge Drale Oct 2012 #1
I really hate what I'm feeling about this. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #5
Treason is defined by the Constitution, and this doesn't fit. n/t Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #18
I had a long talk a while back here on slinging treason around. It has a narrow legal meaning. freshwest Oct 2012 #19
K&R BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #2
Seconded! 68 Rex Oct 2012 #8
and in all of the other states too! robinlynne Oct 2012 #22
Why is the media not covering this ? JuveDem Oct 2012 #3
Because they're Toadies and not capable of reporting REAL NEWS Cha Oct 2012 #11
+1,000. Or hired to hide the real news with fluff stories. freshwest Oct 2012 #20
Chris and the others do care and have promos on voter fraud and repression. julian09 Oct 2012 #13
Who owns the media? ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #17
I hope she and others can identify perpetrator julian09 Oct 2012 #4
Republican treason Berlum Oct 2012 #6
They'll probably let him plead down to littering KamaAina Oct 2012 #7
ReTHUGs in name and nature malaise Oct 2012 #9
I'm wondering about these reports. They're not being reported by mainstream news sources... Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #10
it was covered by the local news renegade000 Oct 2012 #16
This IS big news. I'll do some e-mails this weekend or tweets. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #24
So voter registration needs to be extended felix_numinous Oct 2012 #12
They need to extend it for 6 mos or more. As a matter of fact, they shoud extend it until they get Booster Oct 2012 #15
Absolutely!! Extend voting until every vote is counted felix_numinous Oct 2012 #25
Not just Virginia Lasher Oct 2012 #14
Is it really thousands of dumped ballots? I read the 1st drop was 8 registration forms... Melinda Oct 2012 #21
One guy got caught because of a concerned citizen. How many didn't get caught? LisaL Oct 2012 #28
I get your point. I'm looking for something that qualifies the number "thousands" in the article. Melinda Oct 2012 #29
Why don't you write Not Larry Sabato and ask? TalkingDog Oct 2012 #33
The OP links to Raw Story which links to NotLarrySabato. Raw Story claims thousands - Sabato eight. Melinda Oct 2012 #34
So you wrote the author of the Raw Story piece and asked them where the number came from? n/t TalkingDog Oct 2012 #35
Why yes, I wrote them several hours after I asked the question of the OP, and well before Melinda Oct 2012 #36
My God!!!! OMFG! nc4bo Oct 2012 #23
The Republicans are trying to steal the election - It is what it is - a crime. AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2012 #26
A VERY important sentence from this story: beac Oct 2012 #27
They collect registrations from colleges... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #30
Shouldn't he get a count for each card he dumped? Live and Learn Oct 2012 #31
Three independent rogues... all working for the same guy. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #32

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
5. I really hate what I'm feeling about this.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:26 PM
Oct 2012

I am thinking "treason" and the punishment that goes with it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. I had a long talk a while back here on slinging treason around. It has a narrow legal meaning.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:49 PM
Oct 2012

During the Iraq war hype, conservatives threw it out there so many times it became meaningless. Treason under the Consitution is a strict thing. Despite the Sedition Act, it's nearly impossible to enforce now. Lesser charges are made instead. The words have a lot of emotional power so we use them to express outrage more than anything. It is a felony to do what they did. The only solution is to GOTV.

JuveDem

(69 posts)
3. Why is the media not covering this ?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

Why are guys like Chucky Toad, Matthews, Morning Joe and co not covering this ?
This is serious. Do they even care ?

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
13. Chris and the others do care and have promos on voter fraud and repression.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:39 PM
Oct 2012

Their lucky if their audience reaches one million. The MSM and college administration, city fathers, should bring it to everyones attention in their community. Personally I wouldn't register at those type of locations, without the knownledge that they are on the, up and up.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
4. I hope she and others can identify perpetrator
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:26 PM
Oct 2012

and alert others on campus, to see if others were decieved.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
6. Republican treason
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:26 PM
Oct 2012

These crooks need to be jailed for the crimes they are perpetrating against the US of A.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
12. So voter registration needs to be extended
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:34 PM
Oct 2012

so that these people can re-register and get their chance to vote!! I hope steps are taken to correct these crimes!!

Booster

(10,021 posts)
15. They need to extend it for 6 mos or more. As a matter of fact, they shoud extend it until they get
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:42 PM
Oct 2012

rid of the Romney-owned voting machines and go back to paper ballots. This election is turning into a sham. I'd like to see them throw out R&R and have Mr. Obama win by default. That would stop this shit right now from ever happening again.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
25. Absolutely!! Extend voting until every vote is counted
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:13 PM
Oct 2012

--as LONG as it takes, I think these crooks need to be taught a lesson-->Not. This. Time.

Lasher

(27,625 posts)
14. Not just Virginia
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:42 PM
Oct 2012

Late last month, the RNC fired another voter registration contractor — Virginia-based Strategic Allied Consulting — after more than 100 suspect forms it collected in Florida were turned over to local prosecutors. Virginia was one of the states that had a contract with the company.

“We have heard a lot from Republicans both in the Virginia General Assembly and across the country about their numerous fears that voters were committing fraud,” (Virginia State Sen. Donald) McEachin said, referring to the GOP’s push for strict voter identification laws. “It certainly looks like, instead, the fraud is being committed by the Republicans on the voters.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/worker-for-gop-hired-contractor-charged-with-dumping-va-voter-registration-forms/2012/10/19/86062d7a-19f1-11e2-ad4a-e5a958b60a1e_story.html

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
21. Is it really thousands of dumped ballots? I read the 1st drop was 8 registration forms...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:52 PM
Oct 2012

and that the GOP operative was charged with 8 felony counts, along with several misdemeanors. I've read the LA times article too, and can't find anything about the "thousands" of registration forms. This is a HUGE number, and a big deal. A BIG deal. Do you (OP) or anyone else reading this know where this number came from?

TIA!

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
29. I get your point. I'm looking for something that qualifies the number "thousands" in the article.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
Oct 2012

There is no doubt in my mind that the GOP is capable of massive scale voter suppression. None. Not a bit.

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
34. The OP links to Raw Story which links to NotLarrySabato. Raw Story claims thousands - Sabato eight.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

Which brings me full circle. But thanks for trying.

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
36. Why yes, I wrote them several hours after I asked the question of the OP, and well before
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:07 AM
Oct 2012

you came along. roxanne@rawstory is the only contact info on their site; the author of the piece has no contact information listed. I'm still waiting almost 3 days later. Oh, and Not Larry Sabato confirms he did not use the term "thousands", he listed "eight", as I wrote in my response to the OP.

I'm tapped out of Boolean, Lexus-Nexus, and other ORM methodologies. FWIW, legal research was my bread and butter for years. So, do you have anything more you consider helpful to add, or can we put our discussion (albeit, is it really?) to rest?

beac

(9,992 posts)
27. A VERY important sentence from this story:
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:22 PM
Oct 2012
When questions arose about Strategic’s practices, including allegations of “submitting forged forms and of dumping Democratic registrations,” the RNC fired the company, at which point Small and his team were re-hired by the Republican Party of Virginia.


In other words, business as usual carried on without a hitch. Same fraud, different day.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. They collect registrations from colleges...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012

...and festivals and events where there are a high number of Dems. Then, into the trash they go!

People arrive at the polls and can't vote.

I have a suggestion for the states where this is happening. In my state we have same-day voter registration. We can register to vote up to and including Election Day. So, if there was a problem or human error, the person could register and vote at the polls.

Does Virginia have a Democrat Sec of State who would be able to pass similar legislation, in an emergency basis? Some Sec/States have this power. If not, maybe the VA state legislature would be willing to pass a law.

This has got to be huge news in VA! If I was in VA, I'd be double checking my registration!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
31. Shouldn't he get a count for each card he dumped?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

That is the way they charge small time criminals. Why should this be any different? He should have thousands of charges for destruction of voter registration cards and the same for obstruction of justice. This is some serious malarkey.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
32. Three independent rogues... all working for the same guy.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:18 PM
Oct 2012

When Republicans talk about the evils of... pretty much anything... you just know it's essentially a confession.

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