Republicans fume at Larry Elder for blowing their chance to bring down Gavin Newsom: report

[Demovictory9]

https://www.rawstory.com/gavin-newsom-larry-elder/

Rob Stutzman, a GOP operative in Sacramento, tells the Examiner that Elder's penchant for making controversial statements helped Newsom change the race away from being a referendum on his governorship and into a choice between a Democratic governor and a Trump-loving Republican.

"Newsom has successfully framed the race as him versus Elder, and Democratic voters are responding by voting," he said. "Elder has no appeal outside of GOP voters."

An unnamed Republican consultant similarly fumed to the Examiner that Elder's emergence as GOP frontrunner completely changed the course of the campaign.


"Before Elder, the race was all about Gavin, and our polls were looking very good," they explained. "If the election had been four or more weeks ago, we would have won."



Elder last week gave Newsom some last-minute campaign material when he boasted to right-wing radio host Mark Levin that he would replace Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) with a Republican if she died while he was governor.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Gee, too bad! Maybe if you republicans had better ideas, then you might have better candidates.

[ailsagirl]

24. .....

[brush]

26. Heehee. Elder is no Arnold. That's for sure.

[dalton99a]

2. "The black guy is screwing up"

[Initech]

3. They got nothing and they know it!

[enki23]

4. Maybe the fact that Elder appeals to Republican voters says something about the Republican voters.

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[stopdiggin]

9. precisely! -(nt)-

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[OnDoutside]

35. Above all else, there aren't enough of them.

[Sympthsical]

5. Ayep. He opened his mouth

Four weeks ago, it was nerve-wrackingly close. As the one consultant said, it was all framed on whether you liked Newsom or not, and plenty of people were pretty grumpy about him.

Then Elder kept talking and talking and talking.

He saw people were paying attention to him who ordinarily don't, loved the attention, and went hog wild.

He completely misread the room to our benefit.

[stopdiggin]

8. I'd submit he is the frontrunner for the GOP vote

because he IS what the Republican voter is all about these days. Republicans with ideas, or Republicans with a game plan is so yesterday. It's all about grievance and owning the libs ...

[Sympthsical]

11. Which doesn't fly in California

Trumpism in general doesn't have any purchase here outside of mostly rural areas and a few swaths of affluent suburb. Going full Trump was about the dumbest thing he could've done.

So, well done there.

If they had coalesced around a moderate and vaguely competent candidate, it would've been closer. Schwarzenegger wasn't just a celebrity - he didn't come off as a crazy right-winger. If some Republican candidate had been passingly known and said things like, "I won't replace Feinstein with a Republican," he/she could've gotten some traction. At least made it closer.

But that kind of personal restraint wasn't ever going to come from a talk show host. Their whole thing is self-confidence in their own ego.

[Dorian Gray]

31. Chachi helped. lol

[msongs]

6. one wonders how much $$$ is going to make from this..and where's it coming from nt

[uponit7771]

7. Elder is Trump light and the GQP thinks someone outside of their KKKlan wants either one of em

[ZonkerHarris]

10. "the minimum wage should be $0" didn't help him either. hahahahahahaha fuck that idiot

[Demovictory9]

12. "Employers should be able to ask women their reproductive plans"

Sheesh

[Hugin]

14. I'm guessing the reply to that question would be NSFDU.

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Unbelievably grotesque.

[ShazzieB]

18. He said that!?

Holy crap, what an idiot!

I knew about the minimum wage comment, but not that he thinks employer should be allowed to ask women (and not men!) such intrusive personal questions.

Dude acts like he fell through a time warp from about 1960. Sheesh.

[Demovictory9]

23. here

Nearly two decades before conservative radio host Larry Elder joined the long list of candidates who could unseat California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) in the state’s second recall election in history, Elder suggested that venture capitalists have the right to ask women whether and when they intend to have children as a way to “protect” their “investment.”

“Are there legitimate business reasons for a venture capitalist to ask a female entrepreneur whether she intends to have children? Hell, yes,” Elder wrote in his 2002 book.

But the man believed to be Newsom’s top contender didn’t stop there.

In several other sections of “Showdown: Confronting Bias, Lies and the Special Interests That Divide America,” Elder suggested that women who choose to have children are not “dedicated” to their jobs and are unable to give an “all-hands-on-deck commitment” to work. In another passage, Elder went after former acting Massachusetts governor Jane Swift (R) for taking on the new role after giving birth to twins, claiming that “to tell women they can run a state, have family and children, and be equally attentive to all — is a lie.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/20/larry-elder-gop-california-radio-host-book-comments/

SEXISM IN FUNDING?

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But the USA Today article implies unfairness, if not discrimination. How? Well, some venture capitalists—get this—dare ask these female entrepreneurs whether they intend to have children. One female entrepreneur sought advice from a male mentor: “When [Christine] Warren, 32, was planning her start-up near Philadelphia, a man she approached for advice asked if she had any children. She said she had a 4-year-old and a 1-year-old. ‘So you’re done?’ he asked. Warren recalls thinking: ‘Are you really asking me that?’” Yeah, he was really asking you that. And why not?

When a venture capitalist ponies up tens of millions of dollars to invest in a start-up or expansion, he wants to safeguard his investment. Suppose Danny Daredevil approaches you for millions for his high-tech start-up. He presents a detailed, if optimistic, business plan that shows gradual increase in revenues with a huge payoff in five to ten years. But Danny, on the weekends, enjoys competitive stunt skiing. He also likes to drag race, again, just on the weekends, mind you. Question: Do you insert a clause forbidding Danny Daredevil from engaging in his enjoyable, but high risk, weekend hobbies? Of course you do. In fact, many professional sports contracts forbid baseball, football, and basketball players to engage in hazardous conduct not related to their sport. Call it protecting an investment.

Are there legitimate business reasons for a venture capitalist to ask a female entrepreneur whether and when she intends to have children? Hell, yes. In fact, USA Today quotes a professor who says, “Some women may be slowed by child-rearing. But others start companies so they can better control their schedules to spend more time with their kids.” In the article, one female entrepreneur admits that if she had never had kids, she “absolutely” would have begun a company sooner. Doesn’t the fact that “some women may be slowed by child-rearing” warrant an obvious, sensible question? Are you committed?

Forget about venture capitalists. How about regular ol’ employers? Why can’t they ask the same questions? Many businessmen and businesswomen deal with this reality every day: Will the woman who applies as a sales manager give me enough steady, committed time on the job to warrant my investment? Employers also face the mandatory Family and Medical Leave Act, allowing an employee, after the birth of a child or for a family emergency, to keep his or her job and take time off with employer-paid medical benefits. These laws, quite simply, increase the cost of hiring women, and the expense is passed on to consumers. But ask a woman if she intends to have children and expect a hot call from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

A heavy thing, asking somebody for dough. Along with a solid business plan, venture capitalists seek an all-hands-on-deck commitment. Are you dedicated? Will you give me 24/7?

Sissies need not apply. Or can I not say that?

https://www.mediamatters.org/larry-elder/larry-elder-running-be-california-governor-heres-just-some-his-toxic-record-radio-host

https://www.mediamatters.org/larry-elder/larry-elder-endorsed-pregnancy-discrimination-criticized-governor-being-working-mom

[Hugin]

13. Now they're crying that the election wasn't soon enough?

OMG!

Hoisted on their own mobile goal posts!

[Captain Zero]

15. This is a funny thread. Thanks for the laughs, all.

NT

[Grokenstein]

16. Elder: "I'm a member of the club! These guys are my family!" (not actual quote)

Ha ha ha ha ha! Enjoy your wake-up call, you big dummy!

[Progressive Jones]

17. And when Elder loses, it will be declared a "rigged election". I believe I've already heard

that charge. Some kind of whining about the envelopes for the mail in ballots "having holes in them."

[cinematicdiversions]

19. He would have been fine if he simply didn't talk.

Sounds like me dating....

[Demovictory9]

25. Elder has written too many books, spewed too much on talk radio

dems would have dug up the stuff

[David__77]

20. They wouldn't have won.

If the election was weeks ago things would have been different. It works the other way elsewhere too- voters “come home” at the end.

[SoCalDavidS]

21. Newsom Was NEVER Getting Recalled

The only chance they had, and it was a tiny one, was if Democrats failed to vote. Thankfully that didn't happen.

CA is 2/3rds Democratic, and they were not about to vote out Gavin.

[RandySF]

22. They never had a chance.

[msongs]

27. president hillaary clinton says don't celebrate a newsom win til he actually wins nt

[Norbert]

28. California doesn't like a black guy that talks similar to TFG!

I'm shocked! Shocked!

[maxrandb]

29. Reminds me of when Rush Limbaugh (still dead, thank God)

tried to take his racist shit to TV and the NFL

Found out pretty quickly that his dumbass didn't play without call screened and the ability to hang up on people.

It's a fucking disgrace that liberals, progressives and other "sane" people haven't organized to take Hate Radio down.

Now, we have to suffer these fools.

Our last VP got his start as a local wingnut Hate Radio talker. That's bad enough, but look at state legislators and current House and Senate Retrumplicans.

How many got their start through hate radio?

[Dorian Gray]

30. Good

Trumpism destroys everything it touches. (Not a big fan of Rick Wilson, but he's right.) GOP, you're fraying and unravelling.

[StarfishSaver]

32. An interesting take since Elder is smack dab on message

Elder is saying exactly what other GOP candidates and elected officials all over the country are.

I wonder what's so different about him that would make this guy single him out for criticism ...

[apnu]

33. Dear Republicans, try winning real elections next time.

This recall stunt was done because they know they are so toxic, they can’t win in a normal election.

Here’s a tip for Republicans: stop being toxic assholes.

[tanyev]

34. Voters considered who would replace him if Newsom were recalled?

HOW IS THAT EVEN FAIR????

[Midnight Writer]

36. Elder doesn't want to win. He just wants to draw attention and raise his profile.

Radio deals, TV deals, book deals, speaking gigs.

He has no intention of serving the People, his State, or his Country.

[Sibelius Fan]

37. They never had a chance to oust Newsom. Blatant self-aggrandizement.

[stopdiggin]

38. actually, as the article states, they had a pretty good shot

it was (perhaps still is?) close enough that the political wonks were starting to ___ their pants. And because this is an off year, off schedule, gambit - if CA did not have vote by mail ... Newsom very likely gets ousted.

[Hortensis]

39. Maybe the GOP should invest more in the Green Party candidate

to try to encourage a few more votes. His resume as a former pornography editor at Hustler should appeal to a niche market. Just need to help more of them find their kind of guy in the Green Party.

[colsohlibgal]

40. Good

They seem to be bewildered when they lose....hey there are way more of us, we just need to show up and vote, I mean every election, off year, whatever.