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Donald Trump Is Now Responsible For Every Republican Covid Deathhttps://thebanter.substack.com/p/donald-trump-is-now-responsible-for
When Donald Trump was elected in 2016, I felt genuine fear. I live in Washington DC and the mood on the street was palpable. Neighbours were in tears, and many friends of ours began planning to leave the country. A hard nosed reporter I know even confessed to having panic attack before she went on air to declare his victory. My wife and I strongly considered leaving the US for the UK, and only decided to stay because we knew that the only way to defeat Trumpism was to confront it. We marched on the street with hundreds of thousands of women in the days after Trumps inauguration, donated to anti-Trump groups, and I geared the Banter team up for a relentless war on the new administration. I would like to say that I had no idea how bad the Trump administration was going to be, that Trump might curb his insane behaviour in the White House, and that he might (for once) rise to the occasion. The truth is that I knew it would be bad. Very, very bad.
The wrong man at the wrong time
Anyone with even a vague understanding of history should have seen that Trump never had any interest in Making America Great Again. Like every autocrat before him, Trump wanted power for himself and satiate his uncontrollable thirst for destruction. We now know that the very worst predictions about Trumps presidency were true. Not only did he almost succeed in destroying democracy in America and turning it into an international laughing stock, he helped kill off hundreds of thousands of citizens by botching the Covid pandemic response. He fanned the flames of Americas vicious culture wars by turning the pandemic into a political issue, ensuring his supporters would suffer needlessly from the Coronavirus in order to own the libs. The culture war Trump poured gasoline on is now having very real world consequences after his presidency. The Delta variant is ripping through the country, and Trumps supporters are dying by the thousands because they will not get vaccinated.
The suicide cult
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Trump greatest crime against his country is that he turned an ignorant mass of uneducated racists into a full on suicide cult. His supporters arent just willing to commit acts of violence against liberals and minorities, they are willing to die to prove their fealty to him. In a stunning CNN report this week, Elle Reeve travelled to Missouri to interview Trump supporters who wont take the Covid vaccine despite rapidly escalating deaths in the region. It makes for incredibly sobering viewing as Reeve asks residents why they wont get vaccinated. They shafted my president," Wayland Bland told Reeve during the filming. They would have had the vaccine, already had it, but they wouldn't give it to him because they know he would be re-elected so they had to swindle around and... keep it from him." You shafted me and my president and I aint taking your medicine. While some of the other participants in the report werent quite as gung-ho about offing themselves as Reeve, the sentiment was similar: Republicans dont trust the vaccine because they associate it with Democrats and the Biden administration. As a consequence, Missouri is experiencing huge surges in Covid cases and hospitalizations. Reported The Kansas City Star earlier this week:
This isnt just happening in Missouri red states across the country are seeing dramatic surges in infection rates and their hospitals are filling up with unvaccinated patients. This is now, as CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky stated in July, A pandemic of the unvaccinated." This is entirely Donald Trumps fault. He did what every public health official, doctor, Democrat, and scientist told him not to do, which was to politicize the virus. And as this chart indicates incredibly clearly, Republican states have shockingly bad vaccination rates:
How not to respond to a pandemic.........
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ancianita
(36,017 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The sooner the better.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Is turning ignorant racists into a suicide cult?
He should get the Nobel for that!
Norbert
(6,039 posts)Sounds Darwinish to me.
Johnny2X2X
(19,024 posts)It's really disgusting, Trump got vaccinated in secret, otherwise he could have made a big production out of it and this problem would be tiny right now. He's a sociopath though and he saw vaccines as another way to divide the country so perhaps he could gain personally.
If Trump would have pushed vaccines from the start, and was still pushing them, we'd be at 80% vaccinated by now.
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)Because that's just dumb as funk.
certainot
(9,090 posts)sure there are other factors involved, like governors, but much of it is related to how dominant talk radio is in state politics - which is how desantis and abbott were elected in the first place.
since limbaugh died central republican messaging has failled. amazing to think he was a moderating force by injecting 'intellectual calming' which was actually just the verbalization of the rationalization of the denial authoritarians need to deny reality.
now that's gone and 1500 radio stations are all over the place with their idiot limbaugh wannabes lost in the intellectual wilderness he set up for them where nothing is real that doesnt come out of his dead rotting but still prominent ass
he started the total covid denial and wouldn't have without trump coordination. consider if he had learned the lesson of telling milllions of dittoheads it was stupid to trust the tabacco industry? then it morphed into "well it's just like the flu" and "masks are for democrats" etc
Champp
(2,114 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:21 AM - Edit history (1)
Than to make themselves abysmally, pukingly sick, and then to die a wretched, lonely death to "honor" a New York City casino hustling, contractor-stiffing, lie-spouting, tax-cheating comrade.
malaise
(268,885 posts)What...me worry!
brewens
(13,565 posts)testing." My reply was, "Look at me all healthy and alive. Boy is my face red! They really got me didn't they?" LOL
RandomNumbers
(17,595 posts)Thoroughly debunked.
Idiots gonna idiot.
John Ludi
(589 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)literally a century - since Woodrow Wilson - a whole demographic finally found someone - the designated "leader of the free world", who was not only willing to coddle them and cater to their idiosyncrasies, but helped to promote their racism and xenophobia, giving them a new way to express it. And that was a powerful motivator that allowed them to "finally" be "legitimized", both in their minds and as reinforced and magnified by the media (the latter doing it so they could increase their ratings by endlessly covering or manufacturing a "both sides" view (not caring whether what they were doing was actually pouring more gasoline on the fires that had been started).
I.e., the things they always "stood for" generationally, that American society had finally started rejecting and fighting back against over the past 60 years, were now "in vogue", and as "proof", were even being supported by "the top". That gave them reassurance that they were "right all along", and gave them something to finally "rally around".
Before this, they existed in "isolated pockets" or scattered among the general population around the country, continually suppressed not only by Democratic Presidents, but by Republican ones as well, the latter like Tricky Dick, Raygun, Poppy, and Shrub, who initially sought out their support at election time, subsequently threw them on the back burner once they got into office. But this time, things were different.
And so here we are.
The one thing that does correspond to the "before" (under Wilson) and the "now", under Biden, is that many of the "symbols of hate" that DID crop up under Wilson - e.g., all those statues and worship of the the Confederacy and its flag, have been finally systematically removed.
Irish_Dem
(46,880 posts)I have thought all along this is racism pure and simple, encouraged and legitimized.
Too bad for them that the path to their legitimacy results in death.
Given the huge number of civilian casualties in this current war, I think Trump is more like Jefferson Davis than Wilson.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)as well as an overt embrace of some of the worst of the racists, was like Davis, but he also operated on the other wavelength to capture those who denied their racism, by promoting the demonization of certain demographics, and encouraging them to do the same.
The very first film to ever debut at the White House happened when Wilson screened it. He didn't need to do a "Bull Connor" to make known the type of America that he supported -
A film The Guardian was still calling "A Gripping Masterpiece" as recently as 2013 (despite trying to wrap meaningless faux outrage around the content of the film), where that film was still topping the lists of "Greatest Classic Film" of all times until recently.
And most of the monuments that have been removed the past year, including the atrocity in Richmond, were as a direct result of that film. And the people who embraced that imagery, who actually "made it into a reality", have descendants who were out there in front of the Capitol on 1/6.
Irish_Dem
(46,880 posts)Trump knew that America is significantly racist, and he made that group his base.
Slavery was America's original sin, a crime against humanity. We still have not come to terms with it.
Not eradicated the legacy.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)Andrew Johnson from that list, the same one who made everything about himself and who got impeached in the process.
Irish_Dem
(46,880 posts)shrike3
(3,567 posts)Pioneered close-ups, fade-outs, battle scenes. First to have a musical score. Maybe that's the worst thing about it: a film with such an awful message advanced the art of film-making so significantly.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)the "masterpiece" was Orson Welles' "Citizen Kane", considering how young he was when he conceived it, involving himself in just about every aspect of it, and even starring in it. That film also included all sorts of innovative "technical" cinematography without needing to resort to a storyline that literally "birthed" generations of racist scum who terrorized an entire populace, and who we see crawling around infesting the country with their craven idiocy today.
shrike3
(3,567 posts)Why? Because Griffith was there first. He's not the first artist to be a horrible human being. (Nor the last.)
"I think that that should be seen," Lee added. "I think that one of the most racist films ever, D.W. Griffith's 'Birth of a Nation' should be seen. I show that film in my class. Im a tenured professor at NYU ... I show 'Birth of a Nation.'"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/spike-lee-gone-wind-birth-nation
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)are sort of unusual too, and can sometimes go OTT enough to be distracting.
But the fact that you used a Faux Snooze-linked quote for what he said seems to suggest who benefits from his viewpoint, not much different from Hattie McDaniel's vehement defense of her ugly stereotypical work in another racist "classic" also hailed as "one of the greatest films of all time" - "Gone with the Wind", a film, like the same director's "The Wizard of Oz", was unique at the time due to use of color film -
You also have Disney's racist trope "Song of the South", highlighting another heralded Academy Award-winning film that came out not long after, perfecting the long-form use of a "live action/animation" mix in a film -
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One could also add a film that came out a little over a decade after "Birth of a Nation" - "The Jazz Singer", bringing about what was probably the most significant breakthrough in film-making as the "first talkie" -
But with all I have shown, do you see a consistent and troubling pattern there?
Lee has been been roundly criticized throughout his career regarding the problems he has with his sexist views of black women (including in "She's Gotta Have it" and "School Daze" ), and his uneven attempts to rectify that.
These types of films have always been "rewarded" by the white supremacist power structure to reinforce what is posted about over and over and over here on DU - "institutional racism".
It took the graphic real-life snuff video of a man who had the life choked out of him by a gleeful cop smashing his knee in the man's neck until he was dead, to FINALLY begin to break over a century's worth of damage to a whole community - in film, in the "memorials" that litter the nation with the celebration of traitors, and in "every day products" that many people brought into their homes to covet and enjoy while subconsciously embracing the fucking supremacist stereotyping that these products were drenched in.
shrike3
(3,567 posts)Here's a non-Fox News source for ya. Interview with the director of Moonlight.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/spike-lee-thinks-gone-wind-040654001.html
Sorry life and art don't live up to your expectations.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)because he supposedly attempted to "address the problem" with his own commentary via a "short" ("The Answer" ) that he filmed while still in school -
He also did this a little over a decade ago, which obviously wasn't "acceptable" by the PTB-
And as to this -
Right back atcha. This is the more reasonable idea - https://www.indiewire.com/2016/08/spike-lee-birth-of-a-nation-the-answer-nyu-1201716719/
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200515-spike-lees-masterpiece-about-racism-in-the-us
shrike3
(3,567 posts)The world is probably more interested in what an acclaimed director like Spike Lee says than it is an anonymous guy on the Internet. Birth of a Nation is a film which features an awful message and groundbreaking techniques that had never been done before in film. If facts bother you, guess there's nothing else to be said. Have a good day.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)I posted what Spike Lee also said and thought about that film with clips and interviews, which you seemed to have missed, and also posted how he directly addressed it during his career with a film "short" that referenced it while he was still in school and via another of his feature-length films that seemed to have gotten little press. Those are the facts that are being outright ignored but that's not surprising.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)There's that liberal empathy. I feel sadness for all, the poor, the stupid, those less fortunate and less educated. I believe that good decisions can improve even the least among us.
I'm not finding any good decision-making in these people's lives. They turned off my channel long ago.
They are a lost cause. The best we can do is make absolutely certain that we salvage the structure and fabric of America and rebuild from there. We are motivated. If we don't succeed, they'll find a way to send a vigilante posse to round us up for ... being libs? Will my Japanese car be the give away?
Irish_Dem
(46,880 posts)Best description yet.
Dorian Gray
(13,488 posts)The Republicans running for office/in office right now are okay with a narrative that will lead to the death of their constituents. Looks at what's happening in Ohio. Mandel (the WORST) and Vance (almost the WORST) are neck and neck in killing off their Republican population by telling them NOT TO COMPLY with the mandate. I don't know about Josh Mandel because he is certainly a racist kook, but there is no way in hell that Vance isn't inoculated against covid. No fucking way. So he's okay with low info republicans killing themselves to perpetuate a dangerous narrative. WHY?
Then you look at Twitter asshole people like Candace Owens who keep perpetuating the lie.
I think there is something in there. They're being encouraged to this by their wealthy donors.
Maeve
(42,279 posts)luv2fly
(2,475 posts)Older folks, younger folks, children.... so many lives needlessly lost. I care more about the people that care about them, THEY are not all dumb and they feel the pain.
On this day of 9/11 memorials, so many seem ignorant to the fact that every two days right now the same number of people are dying but so what... "let's own the libs."
NickB79
(19,233 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)That is all.
Blue Owl
(50,340 posts)And I hope at some point there are none left so Donny can finally shrivel up and die from the lack of attention...
myohmy2
(3,155 posts)...
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kimbutgar
(21,111 posts)Several of her family members have had it and a 2 year child is currently suffering from it. And some of her ex high school classmates have died from it. She told me she was planning on attending a family reunion in a Branson next month but she cancelled her plans and would not set foot in Missouri because its so bad there.
PCIntern
(25,518 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,629 posts)Would seek out and worship a father figure, albeit an evil one. They don't care. They can't think for themselves in any logical and intelligent way so they have to have someone who will think for them. They're willing to appropriate their beliefs and well being to this evil and idiotic man because they need a father to guide them, even at the expense of their own lives.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)To die with dignity at home where they belong. And not clogging up hospital rooms with their buyers remorse for the anti-vaxx movement they bought into.
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)Pretty obvious choice to me.
renate
(13,776 posts)Their Dear Leader thinks they're crude and disgusting.
Yet they are willing to die for him.
Oh well.
kairos12
(12,851 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Takket
(21,552 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,578 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)Racists dropping dead if not necessarily improving the gene pool, since many of them are past the age of procreation, at least improves the pool of voters.
As a result of the law of unintended consequences this certainly doesn't constitute his worst act, killing off his fellow racists.