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NewHendoLib

(60,006 posts)
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:25 AM Sep 2021

most important paragraph in an important Slate article re 9-11

Trumpism may have deepened this erosion of civil society. Yet the rise of Trumpism is, in part, a product of the 9/11 era. As Edward Luce put it in his FT reminiscence, “It is hard to imagine Donald Trump without Iraq, nor Iraq without September 11.” The compounding effects of these events and phenomena—the increasingly grating dissonances that they’ve etched on our collective consciousness—may be the most deeply consequential legacy of that day 20 years ago


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/911-anniversary-world-trade-center.html

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most important paragraph in an important Slate article re 9-11 (Original Post) NewHendoLib Sep 2021 OP
That is a 9/11 truth. Bluethroughu Sep 2021 #1
LIHOP people foresaw this, what with all the neocon rhetoric elias7 Sep 2021 #2
Trumpism is only very indirectly a result of 9/11 Klaralven Sep 2021 #3
You can't spell RepUblIcaN Xoan Sep 2021 #4
And how the media reports on these things. Just look at the way JI7 Sep 2021 #5
To be fair, on the day of 9/11, Giuliani represented some calm and reassurance LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #7
100%-- Trump totally leveraged the Islamophobia from 9/11 and the Iraq war and ISIS LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #6

elias7

(3,991 posts)
2. LIHOP people foresaw this, what with all the neocon rhetoric
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:31 AM
Sep 2021

“What we need is a new Pearl Harbor” to justify multiple battlefronts in multiple countries

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
3. Trumpism is only very indirectly a result of 9/11
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:55 AM
Sep 2021

9/11 really put the neoconservatives in charge. They were the globalist and establishment wing of the Republican party aligned with the Project for the New American Century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Notably, the signatories to the Statement of Principles included several Bush Adminstration members, including Dick Cheney.

Trumpism is mainly an outgrowth of the Tea Party, which is a libertarian and nationalist small government movement, rather than the neoconservatives, which are an authoritarian and globalist large government movement. The Tea Party starts much later in 2009.

The idea that 9/11 caused xenophobia which enabled the rise of Trumpism seems only partially correct. There has always been a large reservoir of xenophobia in the US. It's hard to imagine that 9/11 caused more xenophobia about Muslims than was present up through the '40s regarding the Japanese.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
5. And how the media reports on these things. Just look at the way
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:35 AM
Sep 2021

they turned Giuliani into some hero .

LymphocyteLover

(5,636 posts)
7. To be fair, on the day of 9/11, Giuliani represented some calm and reassurance
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:39 AM
Sep 2021

that kept people from freaking out too much.

Only later did most of us learn what an awful person he is.

LymphocyteLover

(5,636 posts)
6. 100%-- Trump totally leveraged the Islamophobia from 9/11 and the Iraq war and ISIS
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:38 AM
Sep 2021

for his racist demagoguery

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