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2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:45 AM Sep 2021

What ever happened to...

this --> ?

Where has the question mark gone? Why does it rarely appear at the end of questions that I see here in thread titles and in comments?

Honestly. It detracts from the purpose of the words present to have to reread questions several times because writers either use a period at the end of a sentence that is a question or they leave nothing at all


I realize it might be asking too much but I would welcome the return of "?" at the end of sentences or phrases that are actually questions, asking for a response.

Asking for a friend.




3 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
I find it annoying too.
1 (33%)
I notice it sometimes.
0 (0%)
I don't use them for religious reasons.
1 (33%)
Is this a rant
0 (0%)
I hadn't noticed.
0 (0%)
So that's what those are!
1 (33%)
What
0 (0%)
How can I tell if it's a question
0 (0%)
I use them once every other Sunday whether I need to or not.
0 (0%)
Question marks are like turn signals, who needs them
0 (0%)
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What ever happened to... (Original Post) 2naSalit Sep 2021 OP
🤔 dweller Sep 2021 #1
Are those the only choices% dameatball Sep 2021 #2
Compared to the misuse of apostrophe's, the absence of Glorfindel Sep 2021 #3
I'm with you there... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #6
i use it alot? AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #4
In this day of modern times HAB911 Sep 2021 #5
Two reasons... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #7
I suspect that may have a lot to do with it. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #8
Alerting on this thread. Hugin Sep 2021 #9
Is is possible to add a grammar checker? Need to check. Hoyt Sep 2021 #10
Some word processing software packages have it... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #20
I always assume it comes from people using their phones MontanaMama Sep 2021 #11
Now that's disappointing. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #17
oh I know I know... cbabe Sep 2021 #12
+1 2naSalit Sep 2021 #19
Ironic thread title... lame54 Sep 2021 #13
It is, isn't it? 2naSalit Sep 2021 #16
You Have 3 Options... ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #14
That was intentional... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #15
That's Why... ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #24
Well see... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #25
I usually get the syntax. lpbk2713 Sep 2021 #18
¿ Found it. 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #21
Actually... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #23
Like a matter/antimatter explosion, the interobang destroyed it Bucky Sep 2021 #22

Glorfindel

(9,719 posts)
3. Compared to the misuse of apostrophe's, the absence of
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:00 AM
Sep 2021

question mark's is a minor annoyance. Its just one more nail in the coffin of good grammar. Maybe George Bernard Shaw was right:

Playwright George Bernard Shaw thought apostrophes were unnecessary and declined to use them in words like don’t, doesn’t, I’ve, that’s, and weren’t. He did use them for words like I’ll and he’ll, where the apostrophe-less version might have caused confusion. He made clear his disdain for the little marks in his Notes on the Clarendon Press Rules for Compositors and Readers, where he said, “There is not the faintest reason for persisting in the ugly and silly trick of peppering pages with these uncouth bacilli.” https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/87448/6-punctuation-marks-hated-famous-authors

And for what it's worth, Gertrude Stein hated question marks:

Stein...also objected to the question mark, finding it “positively revolting” and of all the punctuation marks “the completely most uninteresting.” There was no reason for it since “a question is a question, anybody can know that a question is a question and so why add to it the question mark when it is already there when the question is already there in the writing.” ibid

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
6. I'm with you there...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:11 AM
Sep 2021

Apostrophes drive me crazy and I still haven't adapted to overlooking their misuse. I really enjoyed grammar in school early on, it's what made it possible for me to get into and through college.

Disdain for punctuation or not, it makes your point clearly to the reader(s) so that they might appreciate what you had to say in the proper light. I think of it as a form of misspelled words.




Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
7. Two reasons...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:14 AM
Sep 2021

1. posting from phones. "?" key is secondary on phone keyboards, takes two presses.

2. lazyness, don't want to use the shift key, like e. e. cummings, they type in no caps.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
8. I suspect that may have a lot to do with it.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:17 AM
Sep 2021

I hate texting for that reason. I don't use my thumbs, though.

If I get frustrated with texting, I give up and just call whomever texted me. It's my "fuckit" default.

Hugin

(33,050 posts)
9. Alerting on this thread.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:18 AM
Sep 2021

Obvious commercial spam.

Where's the threads advocating the use of other punctuation?

The humble "," comes to mind with its hegemony on the glorious run-on sentence.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
20. Some word processing software packages have it...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 05:02 PM
Sep 2021

But it wasn't all that helpful.

I never looked for it on DU.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
11. I always assume it comes from people using their phones
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:01 AM
Sep 2021

to post. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve looked at my kiddo’s homework and seen glaring punctuation, spelling and grammar errors come home uncorrected from school. I don’t get it.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
17. Now that's disappointing.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 04:59 PM
Sep 2021

When I was in college I would proofread papers for some of my profs and bosses at work and I was horrified by some of them lacking even the most basic writing skills not to mention their really bad spelling.



cbabe

(3,512 posts)
12. oh I know I know...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 02:55 PM
Sep 2021

Eats, Shoots and Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation by Lynne Trusse.

Hilarious. Kids love it. Graphic book version available.

Seriously, grammar and punctuation are not taught because they are not on 'the test'. Weird when considering our high tech culture depends on precision.

So.... Let's eat grandma...

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
23. Actually...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 05:08 PM
Sep 2021

In would prefer that we use that as it is in Spanish, it would let a reader know at the beginning what the sentence is. For dyslexics like me, it really makes a difference to have little clues like punctuation.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
22. Like a matter/antimatter explosion, the interobang destroyed it
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 05:04 PM
Sep 2021
is triumphant.

All kneel before the might interobang!!!‽
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