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LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:46 AM Sep 2021

Do we have any answers after all these years why so many 9/11 forewarnings were ignored?

Not just the famous Aug 6th PDB, but there were at least 2 high profile FBI whistleblowers saying that their warnings were being ignored, including Colleen Rowley, who was in charge of the case of the 20th hijacker who was arrested before the attacks, Zacarias Moussaoui.

https://accuracy.org/release/9-11-cover-up-whistleblower-coleen-rowley/

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,249500,00.html

Also keep in mind that the great Robert Mueller was in charge of the FBI at that time.

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Do we have any answers after all these years why so many 9/11 forewarnings were ignored? (Original Post) LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 OP
When it comes to Republicans, follow the money dlk Sep 2021 #1
Yes. Republicans were in charge. Champp Sep 2021 #2
Because this map was on Dick Cheney's desk in March of 2001 and he needed an excuse to ... Botany Sep 2021 #3
And siphon off billions... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #5
For 6 months to one year after we invaded Iraq they pumped out billions of $s worth of oil ... Botany Sep 2021 #8
And that was only one of many... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #9
The president was a MORAN HAB911 Sep 2021 #4
Not so, he wasn't in charge. elias7 Sep 2021 #6
I think we will be asking the same question in a few years yonder Sep 2021 #7
Yes... though we have a good explanation of why warnings of global warming were ignored-- LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #16
I remember when Ray-gun removed The WH's Solar Panels electric_blue68 Sep 2021 #24
Because the Smartest People In The Land (Just Ask Them) were in charge JHB Sep 2021 #10
The PNAC that wanted a new Pearl Harbor event that would activate the American people LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #17
I don't believe they had a hand in it beyond their own colossal arrogance... JHB Sep 2021 #20
Uh huh... LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #21
IMHO, LIHOP MoonRiver Sep 2021 #11
does seem that way... a massive crime that's never been brought to trial LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #18
becausse they let it happen scarytomcat Sep 2021 #12
No... butBenghazi malaise Sep 2021 #13
Hindsight if 20/20 treestar Sep 2021 #14
Yes, we know why. lark Sep 2021 #15
Same reason why so many are ignoring the warnings about climate change Kaleva Sep 2021 #19
Because a bunch of (mostly) Saudi terrorists didn't fit Bush's narrative of who "the enemy" was. DickKessler Sep 2021 #22
Bingo. crickets Sep 2021 #23
Thank you! DickKessler Sep 2021 #25
Does anyone remember the story about the high school student in Brooklyn... keep_left Sep 2021 #26
Yes, I remember that. Apparently there was word on the street from some in the Pakistani community LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #27

Champp

(2,114 posts)
2. Yes. Republicans were in charge.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:55 AM
Sep 2021

Repubs like to attack Dems all the time on security matters, but they themselves FAIL America over and over and over.

9/11 was just one pathetic example of Republican FAIL.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
3. Because this map was on Dick Cheney's desk in March of 2001 and he needed an excuse to ...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:10 AM
Sep 2021

invade Iraq and steal their oil.

2naSalit

(86,378 posts)
5. And siphon off billions...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:21 AM
Sep 2021

From the treasury. This wasn't his first time as a Cabinet member, he and Rummy changed places for the W admin. and nobody answered any questions that could lead to the truth.

They had a well oiled machine going and nobody was going to stop them, as we have seen.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
8. For 6 months to one year after we invaded Iraq they pumped out billions of $s worth of oil ...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:56 AM
Sep 2021

... that was never measured. And Dick Cheney's stock portfolio went up 3,281 % after we invaded
Iraq too.

elias7

(3,991 posts)
6. Not so, he wasn't in charge.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:32 AM
Sep 2021

There is a strong body of evidence suggesting they LIHOP, though we’re not really allowed to talk about it, because of course, Republicans (and neo-cons) would never play such hardball with people’s lives.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
7. I think we will be asking the same question in a few years
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:40 AM
Sep 2021

regarding Covid, both of which will be precursors to the grandest, most damming question of all, if we are even able to ask it by then: Do we have any answers after all these years why so many climate change forewarnings were ignored?

The answer, IMO, is what post number 1 pointed out: blindly following the money, the greed, the unhindered pursuit of wealth and power, above all else.....above everything including the future of our planet as we know it.

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
16. Yes... though we have a good explanation of why warnings of global warming were ignored--
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:12 AM
Sep 2021

the fossil fuel industries effectively paid off politicians to ignore the problem and mounted massive propaganda campaigns against renewable energy.

COVID19 is harder-- no real clear answer for why Trump disabled our pandemic response and downplayed the virus but could be Putin told him to do it, as he was a Russian agent put into place to damage this country, no doubt in my mind.

electric_blue68

(14,822 posts)
24. I remember when Ray-gun removed The WH's Solar Panels
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 12:07 AM
Sep 2021

We could have so much farther along with Renewables!!!

JHB

(37,157 posts)
10. Because the Smartest People In The Land (Just Ask Them) were in charge
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:13 AM
Sep 2021

Remember how when Bush came in someone (maybe Cheney, maybe an appointee) quipped that "Now the adults are in charge"?

Bush's top national security/Pentagon/foreign policy positions were heavily larded with appointees who'd spent the previous right years camping out at the neoconservative think tank Project for a New American Century (often abbreviated as PNAC). They were obsessed with Saddam Hussein, were convinced that only state-sponsored terrorism was worth worrying about, considered non-state actors like bin Laden and al-Queda to be irrelevant sideshows, and were openly, utterly contemptuous of the Clinton administration for taking him seriously. They jeered about how Clinton would fire off "million-dollar missiles to get a guy in a tent."

They thought they knew better than everyone else. Bush's administration was so deeply-rooted in that groupthink that they just treated contradictory information as a bunch of scare-em crapola from entrenched bureaucrats.

Bush moved assets away from tracking bin Laden, de-prioritized counter-terrorism, and, of course, threw out an existing plan for beefing up airport security because one of the names on that plan was "Al Gore."

And when they were proven to not be so smart, their first response was to use that attack on us by Saudis and Egyptians as an opportunity to launch one of their pet projects in Iraq.

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
17. The PNAC that wanted a new Pearl Harbor event that would activate the American people
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:32 AM
Sep 2021

for war?

And just coincidence they got what they wanted?

JHB

(37,157 posts)
20. I don't believe they had a hand in it beyond their own colossal arrogance...
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:35 AM
Sep 2021

...that counter-terrorism was something that could sit any wait until they got around to it. That nobody else had a less lackadaisical timetable.

Despite their high opinions of themselves, they were not masterminds.

However, they were consummate, unrestrained opportunists. So instead of having to spend a year or two drumming up excuses to attack Saddam, they grabbed with both hands at the one that fell into their lap due to their own negligence.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
12. becausse they let it happen
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:18 AM
Sep 2021

just look what the got .... two 20 year wars for the military industrial complex ....trillions spent for nothing but more wealth for warmongers

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. Hindsight if 20/20
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:28 AM
Sep 2021

The real problem was having a right wing POTUS with a VPOTUS straight out of the military industrial complex. They used it. It was their opportunity to get the wars they wanted.

lark

(23,065 posts)
15. Yes, we know why.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 12:26 PM
Sep 2021

Profits for Cheney from oil and from war profits off of Haliburton and Bush's owned a company making munitions as well. It was always a war for right wing & MIC profit from the very beginning until now.

Kaleva

(36,260 posts)
19. Same reason why so many are ignoring the warnings about climate change
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:34 AM
Sep 2021

There is no exodus of people from the South West, the Gulf Coast, Florida, areas subject to flash flooding or fires. People may give lip service to the calamity that climate change is bringing but their actions, or lack of actions, suggest they are ignoring the warnings.

DickKessler

(364 posts)
22. Because a bunch of (mostly) Saudi terrorists didn't fit Bush's narrative of who "the enemy" was.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 09:24 PM
Sep 2021

Or that of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz et al.

Moreover, investigating Saudis might have made some things inconvenient for a lot of powerful people, including Bush’s own family.

keep_left

(1,780 posts)
26. Does anyone remember the story about the high school student in Brooklyn...
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:54 PM
Sep 2021

...who allegedly predicted 9/11? There is an NBC article about it:

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna3067562|

Not much seems to have come of it. This might have been a "word on the street" situation. The student was never found to know anything incriminating. However, he did predict the attack a week in advance. His teacher (who reported the incident) was described as "100% credible" by the NYPD.

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
27. Yes, I remember that. Apparently there was word on the street from some in the Pakistani community
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:52 PM
Sep 2021

I had heard that anyway... there were a lot of predictions actually.

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