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Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:22 PM Sep 2021

Hospital to stop delivering babies after staff resigns instead of getting vaccinated.

This is utterly and completely insane. How do we beat this pandemic if people are so brainwashed that they'll throw away their careers for a bunch of debunked conspiracy theories?


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Hospital to stop delivering babies after staff resigns instead of getting vaccinated. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Sep 2021 OP
Sadly one of the things that is happening with this pandemic DURHAM D Sep 2021 #1
Some don't deserve respect luv2fly Sep 2021 #16
Sadly true. Some are qualified many aren't. live love laugh Sep 2021 #21
For perspective, they have 650 EMPLOYEES, 464 (73%) currently vaccinated. Hortensis Sep 2021 #29
On the PLUS side, we now have a way to divide those who deserve student debt relief Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #2
That's brilliant. n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2021 #31
Good. Unvaccinated nurses shouldn't be around newborns NickB79 Sep 2021 #3
hepatitis. mopinko Sep 2021 #4
Exactly, what other vaccines have they skipped? Endangering all of the newborns. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #13
So lemme get this straight durablend Sep 2021 #5
If a ran a hospital and a nurse (or doctor) refused to be vaccinated, my response would be simple. TomSlick Sep 2021 #6
Right on target. Have the pink slip ready! LuckyLib Sep 2021 #22
So, nurses who work around newborns and new mothers Bettie Sep 2021 #7
original article DBoon Sep 2021 #8
It's Elise Stefanik's district. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #15
They should lose their licenses. Ligyron Sep 2021 #9
They may find it difficult to find any hospital to work because most if not all FloridaBlues Sep 2021 #10
My housemate is a retired nurse, mostly Army service. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #11
As of now some places are hiring un-vaxxed nurses, but they'll become lindysalsagal Sep 2021 #30
Actually, the big problem is that far-right political zealotry has REPLACED religion. Hortensis Sep 2021 #32
The fact that they "believe" the crap the gop says proves there was never any substance to biblical lindysalsagal Sep 2021 #34
Medical staff who do not believe in standard of care, especially during a pandemic, need to go. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #12
So much for the "pro-life" people DFW Sep 2021 #14
More info here ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #17
"What next? Requiring me to get tested for tuberculosis? Insisting I wash my hands struggle4progress Sep 2021 #18
I was a computer operator at Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale Florida in the 90s. marie999 Sep 2021 #27
I've been there. The hospital will be fine, better off without them. littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #19
Our biggest local healthcare organization REQUIRES the flu shot every single bullwinkle428 Sep 2021 #20
My hospital sometimes has an alarming number of positive Covid in our L&D ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #23
My niece is an LPN at a nursing home in Maryland kelly1mm Sep 2021 #24
This would solve the problem: AmBlue Sep 2021 #25
Is there something about maternity ward work that attracts more anti-vax types? Silent3 Sep 2021 #26
Notice of good paying jobs available to trained medical professionals FakeNoose Sep 2021 #28
Indeed Patton French Sep 2021 #33
Southern Oregon was prepared for our rw nutter nurses to quit under our madate, MerryBlooms Sep 2021 #35

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
1. Sadly one of the things that is happening with this pandemic
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:28 PM
Sep 2021

is that people are losing respect for nurses. It is really too bad.

I think it is important to realize that many of them don't think of themselves as working in a scientific field. They are more like social workers and just care givers than medical people.

That said...get the damn shot.



luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
16. Some don't deserve respect
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:01 PM
Sep 2021

I used to work with many. Some awesome, some not, like all professions.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. For perspective, they have 650 EMPLOYEES, 464 (73%) currently vaccinated.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:19 PM
Sep 2021

30 have resigned, of whom 7 are from the maternity department. "but there are still 165 employees who have not yet shared their decision with hospital management."

Probably a higher percentage of nurses are vaccinated, and of course those all deserve respect and gratitude for being there.

As one embattled nurse said angrily about those who endanger everyone by not getting vaccinated, but especially acute care workers, she's not supposed to be willing to sacrifice her life to work as a nurse. They're owed incredibly more than this depraved indifference to their lives.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
3. Good. Unvaccinated nurses shouldn't be around newborns
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:33 PM
Sep 2021

How do we know they didn't skip their other vaccines? Measles? Whooping cough? Mumps? Chickenpox?

Go work for minimum wage at McDonald's.

Irish_Dem

(46,914 posts)
13. Exactly, what other vaccines have they skipped? Endangering all of the newborns.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

They do not belong in health care, period.
Much less working with infants.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
5. So lemme get this straight
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:42 PM
Sep 2021

A nurse is gonna tell me all these things I as a patient need to do when (s)he won't even get a DAMN SHOT?

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
6. If a ran a hospital and a nurse (or doctor) refused to be vaccinated, my response would be simple.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:48 PM
Sep 2021

You're too damned stupid to work here. You're fired.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
7. So, nurses who work around newborns and new mothers
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:50 PM
Sep 2021

are not willing to take steps to safeguard their patients.

Wow.

This is an interesting point after the many stories about new mothers dying and the increased rate of stillbirths in Mississippi.

I don't get it...do they get ANY vaccines?

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
8. original article
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:05 PM
Sep 2021
A hospital in New York plans to stop delivering babies later this month because too many maternity workers resigned rather than get the COVID-19 vaccine.

Lewis County Health System Chief Executive Officer Gerald R. Cayer announced at a news conference Friday afternoon that the maternity department would be closed on Sept. 25 until they can find enough vaccinated nurses to safely reopen it.

Cayer told reporters in Lowville, which is in an area known as the North Country of New York, that seven of the 30 people who have resigned from the hospital worked in the maternity department, according to the news site NNY360.


https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/09/hospital-to-stop-delivering-babies-after-staff-resigns-instead-of-getting-vaccinated.html

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
10. They may find it difficult to find any hospital to work because most if not all
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:22 PM
Sep 2021

Will put in place vaccines or testing that will be their option. I’m so very disappointed in fellow nurses not protecting themselves or patients.

lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
30. As of now some places are hiring un-vaxxed nurses, but they'll become
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:19 PM
Sep 2021

super-spreaders and eventually have to vax or close. They're kidding themselves if they think a non-vax hospital/doc office job is a good career move. It's a death sentence. This. Is. Religion.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Actually, the big problem is that far-right political zealotry has REPLACED religion.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:35 PM
Sep 2021

That some people, including religious professionals, claim to still adhere to church doctrine and the teachings of Christ does not make it so.

They make me wish there really was a hell. At least I now understand why the gates to heaven were said to be so narrow and most don't make it through. I used to think their god was really mean to close out all these decent people, but those who created scripture had more experience of human failings than I did then.

lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
34. The fact that they "believe" the crap the gop says proves there was never any substance to biblical
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:59 PM
Sep 2021

gospel. It was never real, and deep down, they know it. They've chosen a real man instead of their invisible fake god. And it's killing many of them. And still they cling to something to believe in.

Irish_Dem

(46,914 posts)
12. Medical staff who do not believe in standard of care, especially during a pandemic, need to go.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:41 PM
Sep 2021

They should lose their license as well.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
14. So much for the "pro-life" people
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:25 PM
Sep 2021

“Protect the unborn. Don’t kill them until after they’re born.”

struggle4progress

(118,275 posts)
18. "What next? Requiring me to get tested for tuberculosis? Insisting I wash my hands
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:05 PM
Sep 2021

before assisting with delivery? Not letting me give patients tubes of horse dewormer? Rules against spitting on the floor?"

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
27. I was a computer operator at Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale Florida in the 90s.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:04 PM
Sep 2021

I had to be tested for tuberculosis.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
20. Our biggest local healthcare organization REQUIRES the flu shot every single
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:11 PM
Sep 2021

year for healthcare providers, so why is this so fucking different????

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
23. My hospital sometimes has an alarming number of positive Covid in our L&D
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:41 PM
Sep 2021

Plus we are always short. That many nurses is a serious loss for that hospital. Those nurses are also embarrassing assholes. We start out with a basic science degree. I don’t get them. So weird.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
24. My niece is an LPN at a nursing home in Maryland
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:44 PM
Sep 2021

And they are calling family members to arrange for removing patients to home care or alternative nursing homes (of which there are no beds available). The problem is that over 1/3 of the staff is not vaccinated and refuses to be. The majority of the African American staff is not vaccinated and is refusing citing the Tuskegee experiments. They are already planning to close one of 3 wards and that is with going to 12 hour shifts.

This may end up being really bad.

AmBlue

(3,108 posts)
25. This would solve the problem:
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 04:58 PM
Sep 2021

Covid tent units in the rear parking lots of hospitals for unvaxxed people who are infected. Let the unvaxxed RNs and staff care for the unvaxxed patients. When they run out of tent space then the unvaxxed, infected patients have to wait for another unvaxxed idiot patient to leave the tent, in a body bag or on foot, I don't care. Of course, ALL unvaxxed staff should have to be rapid-tested EVERY DAY and PAY for that testing out of their own pockets.

Reserve the main hospital and vaccinated staff for vaccinated patients. Don't waste our finest medical care and resources on idiots who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. They do not have the right to both be plague rats AND consume all our hospitals' resources so responsible, vaccinated people can't find care.

Silent3

(15,200 posts)
26. Is there something about maternity ward work that attracts more anti-vax types?
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:01 PM
Sep 2021

A lot of the anti-vax propadanda comes from the "mommy blogger" contingent, where there's an unfortunate intersection of nurturing with all things "natural", where a preference for that which is deemed natural turns into a lot of woo, pseudoscience and anti-science.

Maybe a lot of that crosses over into people who focus on delivering babies as well?

FakeNoose

(32,629 posts)
28. Notice of good paying jobs available to trained medical professionals
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:15 PM
Sep 2021

Low cost of living, great salary and job security, even better benefits! Enjoy outdoorsy lifestyle in the beautiful Upstate New York region near the Great Lakes, Finger Lakes and Adirondack Mountains.

Applicants must be vaccinated, no exceptions will be made.

MerryBlooms

(11,762 posts)
35. Southern Oregon was prepared for our rw nutter nurses to quit under our madate,
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 09:01 PM
Sep 2021

so they hired an entire company that specializes in traveling nurses to come in to replace these anti vax nurses, plus National Guard. I haven't checked headlines today, but as far as I know, we haven't had nurses quit in large numbers yet. I just got home from work, and am getting ready for a class and dinner, but Google will bring it up for y'all.

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