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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,882 posts)
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:13 PM Sep 2021

GOP lawmaker suggests Lincoln Memorial should come down after Robert E. Lee statue is removed

A GOP Missouri state representative appeared to suggest the statue of former President Abraham Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial should be removed if statues of "reprehensible" people, like Confederate General Robert E. Lee, were taken down.

"If we insist on tearing down statues of reprehensible people, let's at least be fair and balanced about it," Missouri State Rep. Tony Lovasco said in a tweet Thursday. Lovasco attached to the tweet a photo of the statue of Lincoln seen at the forefront of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC.

The tweet was in a response to a video that showed the large statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee atop a horse being removed in Richmond, Virginia, earlier this week. The 12-ton statue was the largest remaining statue honoring the Confederacy in the US and was ordered removed by Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, as Insider previously reported.

In the tweet, Lovasco did not explain how or why he viewed Lincoln as "reprehensible." In a follow-up tweet, the GOP state representative responded to critics of his earlier message who said his tweet implied he supported the Confederacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/missouri-gop-lawmaker-suggests-lincoln-memorial-should-come-down-after-robert-e-lee-statue-is-removed-in-richmond/ar-AAOkRbQ

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GOP lawmaker suggests Lincoln Memorial should come down after Robert E. Lee statue is removed (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
So this guy is so stupid he doesn't even know who is on his team? rurallib Sep 2021 #1
They're gonna have to stop calling themselves the "Party of Lincoln". ( n/t ) Make7 Sep 2021 #2
Confederate flag & Party of Lincoln keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #10
"Waiving"-? packman Sep 2021 #18
Has this guy taken an American history class? Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #3
He slept Rebl2 Sep 2021 #29
Traitor. There is no comparison between Pres. Lincoln, and an ex US soldier, who broke his oath SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #4
+100! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #31
We're not one of those countries they love to hate Red Mountain Sep 2021 #5
Pardon me for a moment Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #6
Robert E. Lee was shooting at US soldiers. Nothing "balanced" about that. East-A-Squared Sep 2021 #7
Batshit n/t hibbing Sep 2021 #8
As far as right wing false equivalencies go... Shermann Sep 2021 #9
Today's official republican position - Lincoln was our nation's greatest leader keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #11
Thank God you republicans won that war in the 1860s. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #12
Rally round the cause, boys! struggle4progress Sep 2021 #13
Watch out MiniMe Sep 2021 #14
Fuck you, Tony Lovasco. Just, fuck you. The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #15
A rethug with no knowledge of US history? Shocking Takket Sep 2021 #16
One truly iggernant sumbitch RainCaster Sep 2021 #17
Yep! Fritz Walter Sep 2021 #22
Gee, Republicans must be so proud to have traitorous fools like this guy hadEnuf Sep 2021 #19
Surely the man is tone deaf bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #20
Same asshole who wrote this: dalton99a Sep 2021 #21
Lincoln was an American. Lee was an American turned traitor. End of conversation. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2021 #23
If Lincoln took up arms against the U.S., then YES. Grins Sep 2021 #24
Another GOPer shooting himself in the dick. Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #25
Okay I might be reading it wrong but he says that we must be fair and balanced. marie999 Sep 2021 #26
I've got to keep checking when I see posts like this to see if it's the Onion or Borowitz. Liberal In Texas Sep 2021 #27
Pssst . . . buddy . . . Abe Lincoln is about all you guys have going for you right now. Vinca Sep 2021 #28
UW-Madison Jimbo S Sep 2021 #30
The North won and the South lost. Lincoln is a hero; Lee is a traitor. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #32

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
11. Today's official republican position - Lincoln was our nation's greatest leader
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:07 PM
Sep 2021

Today's official republican position - Lincoln was our nation's greatest leader

From the 2004 GOP Platform - (I have not seen them change it.)

"One hundred and fifty years ago, Americans who had gathered to
protest the expansion of slavery gave birth to a political Party that
would save the Union - the Republican Party.

In 1860, Abraham Lincoln of Illinois carried the Republican banner
in the Presidential election and was elected the Party's first
President. He became our nation's greatest leader … and one of our
Party's greatest heroes. "

Many of today's republicans, especially Southern Heritage types, do not like the truth.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
22. Yep!
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 02:24 PM
Sep 2021

His use of the phrase "fair and balanced" was a not-so-subtle attempt to pander to the knuckle-dragging audience of Murdoch's Mahem. And, sadly, it will probably land him guest spots on some of their shit-shows as early as today.
Tomorrow at the latest.
At that point, he's already yesterday's news.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
20. Surely the man is tone deaf
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 12:21 PM
Sep 2021

if he didn't realize how this would play.

That being said, Lincoln had downside that is rarely examined. A handful of books have probed some of that, but they're not popular, even ones based on facts. Lincoln was complex in another era. I don't think we modern people understand the context of his upbringing,
the times he lived, the decisions he faced, what was allowable, normal, and legal at the time. Grift and graft was not well understood or on the radar. That's not to suggest Lincoln was involved in either, but some things that were legal then face ethical concerns and inquiries today. Sometimes you have to let history be history, because you cannot entirely judge the past by today's standards.

Grins

(7,205 posts)
24. If Lincoln took up arms against the U.S., then YES.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 04:14 PM
Sep 2021

Remind me again what army Lincoln commanded, in combat, against the United States….?

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
26. Okay I might be reading it wrong but he says that we must be fair and balanced.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 04:54 PM
Sep 2021

He seems to be saying that for every statue of a reprehensible person we take down we should take down the statue of a great person.

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
27. I've got to keep checking when I see posts like this to see if it's the Onion or Borowitz.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:20 PM
Sep 2021

These people are so far out there they're beyond parody and satire.

Vinca

(50,258 posts)
28. Pssst . . . buddy . . . Abe Lincoln is about all you guys have going for you right now.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:35 PM
Sep 2021

We could erect a monument to Trump, but we'd have to charge a fortune for admittance because he'd want a percentage. (That and the statue would have to have Ivanka sitting in his lap while the latest wife frowns in the background.)

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
30. UW-Madison
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:38 PM
Sep 2021

Last summer during peak of the BLM, a student leader at UW was advocating the removal of the iconic Lincoln statue on campus. Not sure if she was speaking for herself or representing her group.

Be careful what you say on here, it can go both ways.

I don't have a link handy, but will try to dig it up if requested.

32. The North won and the South lost. Lincoln is a hero; Lee is a traitor.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 06:45 AM
Sep 2021

And Tony Lovasco is Republican idiot. Oops, that's redundant.

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