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News to me: QAnon has decided 9/11 is the REAL birthday of Jesus (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
It just gets worse and worse Boomerproud Sep 2021 #1
Well, of course it is. It's all over the internets. marble falls Sep 2021 #2
Hey, there's even a book on Amazon Nevilledog Sep 2021 #3
It's crazy. We have more people reading. But they're reading shit. marble falls Sep 2021 #5
Qanon is one helluva goddamned freak show Blue Owl Sep 2021 #4
Oy blm Sep 2021 #6
Killing 2 children because Qanon convinced their father . .. Lovie777 Sep 2021 #7
2nd immutable law of statistics - - somewhere there is a number that.. TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #8
Come on, everybody. This is psyops, already. They are testing the system, probing the boundaries. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #9
Carl Baugh? musette_sf Sep 2021 #10
WTF is the Julian calendar? Are they just making shit up now? Initech Sep 2021 #11
Appears it's an actual 'thing' ... Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #12
It was the main calendar used by the Western World for over 1600 years. Celerity Sep 2021 #20
These idiots are crazy LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #13
I'm glad I'm old Deuxcents Sep 2021 #14
The Bible itself says when Jesus was born. Archae Sep 2021 #15
Yeap. Xolodno Sep 2021 #16
Oh yes. Archae Sep 2021 #18
If I remember correctly, Charles Dickens... Xolodno Sep 2021 #19
Ah, so Leo Kottke is Jesus? DFW Sep 2021 #17

Lovie777

(12,232 posts)
7. Killing 2 children because Qanon convinced their father . ..
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:38 PM
Sep 2021

that the mother of those two kids had demon dna.

9/11 is Qanon's "Jesus" date of birth is beyond words. I'm pretty sure the crazed evangelist stop that notion quickly.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. 2nd immutable law of statistics - - somewhere there is a number that..
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:40 PM
Sep 2021

will accidentally fit into your scatterbrained hypotbesis

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
9. Come on, everybody. This is psyops, already. They are testing the system, probing the boundaries.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:40 PM
Sep 2021

I believe this psyops is privately based, rather than a government program.

Any cult does this. Requires more and more outrageous leaps of faith to set the hook deeper into the fish's jaw.

I think we are seeing a deliberate creation of a cult, weaponized using today's communication technology, sprouting like a fungus on our society.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. Appears it's an actual 'thing' ...
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:55 PM
Sep 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar

Seems the main difference is it doesn't do the occasional 'skipping' of the Leap Year as the Gregorian we now use ... does.

Celerity

(43,321 posts)
20. It was the main calendar used by the Western World for over 1600 years.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 04:45 AM
Sep 2021

Julius Caesar proposed it in 46 BC, and it took effect January 1, 45 BC.

Pope Gregory XIII had a very slight adjustment done to the length of a year in 1582. That is the Gregorian calendar we in the West use now.

Deuxcents

(16,190 posts)
14. I'm glad I'm old
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:37 PM
Sep 2021

I worry about my grandkids with these nutz. I don’t remember this shit when I was younger.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
15. The Bible itself says when Jesus was born.
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:44 PM
Sep 2021

In Luke, specifically chapter 2, verse 8.

"And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night."

Shepherds back then, and still today, watch their flocks by night in SPRING, when the ewes are giving birth to lambs.
And they watched their flocks by night to stop predation by jackals, who love lamb for dinner.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
16. Yeap.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 12:29 AM
Sep 2021

Xmas has its distinction because multiple pagan religions had a holiday around during the solstice. It was co-opted for the birth of Christ to satisfy a "problem". Even in the book of Jerimiah (10th chapter) denounces current Xmas customs (its been around for awhile). And in Revelation chapter 11....well, it doesn't sound so good.

If you ask me, would have been better if it was kept as a pagan but cultural holiday and becoming mostly platonic.

But to add one other point, Xmas was derided by most evangelical religions in the USA as recently as the 1800's. It was just a holiday to get drunk. But in time, changed.

Good news, we are still saying happy Halloween instead of hallow-witness.

But myths being built on top of myths with these Qanon whackos, wow, that's a special kind of stupid.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
18. Oh yes.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 12:53 AM
Sep 2021

Christmas was a drinking holiday, it wasn't until after the Civil War that merchants pushing their wares as gifts became a popular meme.

And as for Christmas being derided, mostly due to it being a drinking holiday back in Jolly Olde England, the Puritans outlawed Christmas celebrations completely.
Christmas was also used as a day off from working.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
19. If I remember correctly, Charles Dickens...
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 01:30 AM
Sep 2021

..is credited for "rehabilitating" the holiday with "A Christmas Carol".

As for the Puritans, we get a bit of a sanitized view of them in the history books. But no mention of some of the other unfortunate things they committed. And yes Christmas was day off...with a massive hangover, you aren't going to be 100% at work.

DFW

(54,352 posts)
17. Ah, so Leo Kottke is Jesus?
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 12:37 AM
Sep 2021

Well, actually, many guitar players have thought so for decades now, so they wouldn’t be the first to believe this.

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