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brooklynite

(94,552 posts)
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:37 PM Sep 2021

Food shortages 'permanent' and shoppers will never again enjoy full choice of items, Britons warned

The Independent

Food shortages in supermarkets and restaurants are “permanent” and shoppers will never again enjoy a full choice of items, an industry boss has told Britons.

In an extraordinary warning, the head of the Food and Drink Federation said staff shortages – triggered by a combination of Covid and Brexit – had killed off the “just-in-time” delivery model.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/food-shortages-brexit-covid-boris-johnson-b1917763.html


Who could have seen that coming?

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Food shortages 'permanent' and shoppers will never again enjoy full choice of items, Britons warned (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2021 OP
Did they REALLY think Brexit would cost them NOTHING? hlthe2b Sep 2021 #1
Racist Morans jpak Sep 2021 #2
The Brain Moran of this fiasco is none other than cojoel Sep 2021 #10
Silly stuff. Steelrolled Sep 2021 #3
Many of the same people voted for the fools who brought this about Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #11
They were warned. Richard58 Sep 2021 #14
Will they learn their lesson edhopper Sep 2021 #4
Johnson had a minority of votes...which is why I hate multiple parties. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #6
Those who voted for edhopper Sep 2021 #7
This always happens with multiple parties...always. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #22
Yes edhopper Sep 2021 #25
Exactly TexasBushwhacker Sep 2021 #18
Welcome to Germany DFW Sep 2021 #20
Even if they form coalitions...I still object to it. If you have multiple parties than have a run Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #23
I'd be okay with an instant run off TexasBushwhacker Sep 2021 #27
Most won't learn. temporary311 Sep 2021 #9
We really can't talk now can we? plimsoll Sep 2021 #17
Absolutely edhopper Sep 2021 #21
Brexit will destroy Britain...all those EU jobs gone...supply chain gone...they were idiots to Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #5
Scotland should start negotiations with the EU. roamer65 Sep 2021 #8
They still have a fine supply of gammon on hand. Grokenstein Sep 2021 #12
Keep listening to idiots on social media and see what that gets you. Initech Sep 2021 #13
Don't think it will happen here? It already has. Firestorm49 Sep 2021 #15
things will not improve here until money is taken out of politics. nt yaesu Sep 2021 #16
And how exactly will that happen? We have a 6-2 court and a ruling called Citizens United Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #24
Does anyone remember the Foundation Trilogy by Asimov? BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #19
I will send a can of Spotted Dick if needed. SYFROYH Sep 2021 #26
"Just-in-time" production has always been a joke Deminpenn Sep 2021 #28
What kinds of food? GusBob Sep 2021 #29
 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
3. Silly stuff.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:54 PM
Sep 2021

"will never again"



I somehow think the British people can figure out how to fix their food transport.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
11. Many of the same people voted for the fools who brought this about
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:11 PM
Sep 2021

and still expect the same fools to somehow do the right thing because reasons...

Most British people have even less access to affecting state policy than we do. The present government has succeeded in tying the entire Brexit process in Gordian knots through a combination of sheer ineptitude combined with complete contempt for British citizens and voters.

Brexit as a general concept was never going to work well for average UK citizens. The catastrophes presently unfolding in Britain are the result of Brexit done much worse than anyone who voted for it imagined.

Some have observed that the Tory government has not done anything at all to proceed forward with Brexit as a meaningful process of governance. Rather it seems that all of those who claimed to lead it have in fact been finding ways to avoid ANY decisions at all. It has also been said that they really only know how to dismantle government and that constructive leadership ability is not in their portfolio.

Richard58

(239 posts)
14. They were warned.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:41 PM
Sep 2021

Experts kept saying that breaking away from the EU was going to cause this to occur but nobody listened. They let stupid nationalism get in the way of common sense. It's the old, "I'll do it myself! I don't need to cooperate with anyone" school of thought. How's that working out for ya Great Britain?"

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
4. Will they learn their lesson
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 09:07 PM
Sep 2021

Or keep voting for wankers like Johnson.
If they do, they deserve what happens.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
25. Yes
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:11 AM
Sep 2021

and those who voted to have it happen should know this.
You can't vote for a Coalition Party and then say "But I didn't vote for Johnson." You did.
Just as the Jill Stein voters here cannot excuse their culpability for Trump.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,188 posts)
18. Exactly
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 11:31 PM
Sep 2021

In countries that truly have more than 2 strong parties, they end up forming coalitions or they end up with someone winning who has less than 50% of the vote - sometimes significantly less. Paul LePage was was elected Governor of Maine in 2010 with less than 38% of the popular vote because they had 5 candidates drawing significant support.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
20. Welcome to Germany
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 12:46 AM
Sep 2021

Because of exactly this, the Weimarer Republik fell apart, and guess who became Reichskanzler in 1933 with 43% of the vote. In 2 weeks, Germany goes to the polls to elect the parliament that will choose Merkel’s successor.

When the results are announced, some party HQs will uncork the champagne and celebrate if they get all of 10% of the vote. The new government will be a coalition of at least two, and possibly three parties. At least six of them will win seats in the Bundestag (Parliament). In all likelihood, the coalition will be an unwieldy mess of parties having little in common, with either incompetent bureaucrats or self-promoting ideologues, none of whom have any experience out there in the real world, running things.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
23. Even if they form coalitions...I still object to it. If you have multiple parties than have a run
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:50 AM
Sep 2021

off...or you end up with minority rule.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,188 posts)
27. I'd be okay with an instant run off
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 07:05 PM
Sep 2021

That way if someone wants to vote for the Green Party or the Libertarians out of principle, they can and they can mark their #2 choice as Democrat or Republican.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
21. Absolutely
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:19 AM
Sep 2021

it is apparent that close to half of American voters are incapable of learning anything.

It's why I don't sympathize with Florida or Texas, you want to keep electing these people who will destroy you? This is what happens.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
5. Brexit will destroy Britain...all those EU jobs gone...supply chain gone...they were idiots to
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 09:09 PM
Sep 2021

listen to the right-wingers.

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
12. They still have a fine supply of gammon on hand.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:27 PM
Sep 2021
noun: gammon
1.
ham that has been cured or smoked like bacon.
"I ate a plateful of gammon, eggs, and chips"
the bottom piece of a side of bacon, including a hind leg.
plural noun: gammons
"a whole gammon on the bone"
2.
DEROGATORY•INFORMAL
a middle-aged or older white man with conservative, traditionalist views, stereotypically characterized as having a red or flushed complexion.
"they had a discussion with some gammon who thinks climate change is a lie"


Once they eat their way through that, I'm sure the Great Empire will be welcomed back into the EU.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
15. Don't think it will happen here? It already has.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:42 PM
Sep 2021

Welcome to the new Russian state. Want sugar? You will be allowed your ration. Salt?

Alright, I know. Alarmist ramblings - but take a good look around you and tell me how much better things are getting.

I for one, hope that we recover quickly so we can all sing Kumbaya around the campfire again, but these are truly trying times -unlike anything we’ve experienced before.

Don’t expect this mess to turn around on a dime. It won’t.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
24. And how exactly will that happen? We have a 6-2 court and a ruling called Citizens United
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:54 AM
Sep 2021

which would need an amendment with 2/3 of Congress and a majority of states to pass. Things can and will improve. There has always been money in politics. While overturning Citizens United would be wonderful... let's think of solutions that we can actually achieve.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
19. Does anyone remember the Foundation Trilogy by Asimov?
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 11:44 PM
Sep 2021

I read it in 9th Grade, I think. Two things REALLY stuck with me:

a) While it's next to impossible to predict what a random individual might do in a given scenario, the confidence in that prediction rises dramatically with a greatly increased sample size.

And...3) A country will put up with all kinds of deprivation and loss of life if the cause is large and dramatic. If the consequences of a different set of circumstances are annoyance, inconvenience and distress over loss of creature comforts or little delicacies, the same people that would accept having the nation's children die in combat will be screaming bloody murder.

In short...Britons are going to be dealing with First World Problems. They will get over it.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
28. "Just-in-time" production has always been a joke
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 07:23 PM
Sep 2021

Another dumb theory foisted on businesses by the likes of McKinsey and co et al. Holding some level of inventory is what smooths out disruptions in the supply chain, but in service of the almighty share price and bottomline, businesses don't do it.

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