Don't let the "Big lie" supporters claim the Democrats did the same thing in 2016

[Ohioboy]

Big lie supporters like to claim what they are doing is no different than what Democrats did in 2016.

In 2016, Democrats rightfully pointed out there was evidence of Russian interference and other violations: Manafort, Flynn, Wiki Leaks, a meeting at Trump Tower over "adoptions", Russia finding e-mails, announcements of investigations into Hillary's laptop, Carter Page, strange utterances from Rudy Giuliani etc. It was never about the actual ballot counting.

Democrats never said the 2016 election was rigged in the way the election was conducted, or how the votes were counted. Our democracy itself was not in doubt.

On the other hand, Republicans who believe the "Big Lie" are literally trying to cast doubt on the way the 2020 election was conducted. They are promoting the idea that the election was fraudulent simply because their guy didn't win.

There is a big difference. Don't let this lie go unchallenged.

[Walleye]

1. Hillary conceded the next day. And Obama graciously provided a transition

Trump threw a two month temper tantrum ignoring every other thing that was supposed to be taken care of in the country. And planting land mines of policy and personnel just to screw up Joe Biden’s administration. Everybody knows he did that. Unfortunately we keep dealing with these idiots like they can be persuaded with logic and facts. It’s a waste of breath